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    1987 Ritchey Timberwolf

    So i got another Ritchey last night and tore it down for powdercoat.

    So the Serial# says its an imported frame?

    On Mombat specs it has the exact breakdown on parts. Its missing a few thing like the Cranks it came with a Suntour XC Sport and headset which was Tange CD, It had XC Sport brake levers with XT Deerhead cantis up front and XC rollercam under chainstays.

    There is one on the Old Mountain bikes that says its and Ascent with Timberwolf Decals?

    Here are some pics
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    1985 Ritchey Timber Comp
    1985 Ritchey Ascent
    1987 Ritchey Timberwolf

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    Definitely not a TimberWolf. It's an imported frame. The stays are fillet brazed to the seat tube, but the rest of he bike looks TIGed.
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    The mombat specs list a 1987 Timberwolf, but the catalogue is incomplete, it has all the components listed the same, almost, looks like the Ascent has better components. Wonder why thats the only bike listed thats missing what the components are, on the specs.

    I was wrong about the cranks they are the FXC Suntours
    The Hubs are XT with Araya Rm20
    Bars are the Nitto Bullmoose with Ritchey Mountain Bikes etched in them annodized.

    I payed a little to much for it probably, it being from Japan and all.

    Thats ok i'm getting a Timberwolf decal kit and powdercoating it. Now nowing that i think i'm gonna build it up like this

    What are your thought, should i put all this higher end stuff on this frame? I'm gonna ride the crap out of it.

    Headset - Shimano 600
    Shifters - Campy Centaur 7spd Friction
    Levers - Control Tech
    Brakes - Control Tech front, XC Rollercam rear
    Rims - Mavic 230 with Bullseye hubs
    Bottom Bracket - Shimano
    Crank - Undecided, maybe Kookas or some XT's
    Pedals - XCII
    Seatpost - Ritchey Nitto or Strong
    Seat - Turbo or Stock White Ritchey Seat
    Derailluers - XT Deerhead just for fun.
    1985 Ritchey Timber Comp
    1985 Ritchey Ascent
    1987 Ritchey Timberwolf

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    1987 Ritchey Timberwolf

    It's odd and a bit misleading to put timberwolf decals on a bike when one of the most knowledgable Ritchey guys is saying it's not. Just my 2c.

    But build it up how you want. Enjoying it is the end goal.
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    I totally agree, i'm not arguing. i'm just trying to figure out why it came with Timberwolf decal and why its blue. Its original paint and decals. Also FFB has one identical a 87 Timberwolf and there saying its a US tig frame, wonder what the serial# on that one is...

    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    It's odd and a bit misleading to put timberwolf decals on a bike when one of the most knowledgable Ritchey guys is saying it's not. Just my 2c.

    But build it up how you want. Enjoying it is the end goal.
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    1985 Ritchey Ascent
    1987 Ritchey Timberwolf

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    Okay. I "may" take it back... it could be a "Timber Wolf."

    First Flight has a TIGed Timber Wolf (MOMBAT: 1987 Ritchey Timberwolf) and their site says: "the Timberwolf model was only made for several years and in 1987 was the top USA made TIG welded frame."

    So the final year Timber Wolfs (1987) may very well have been TIGed - all other Timber Wolfs are fillet brazed. And I've not seen the '87 catalog to confirm this either way.

    Given the serial number and the construction technique it looks like an Ascent. However, in '87 there could have been a big change to the Timber Wolf frame from previous years. (Based on the First Flight Bike, I'd guess that this was a possibility.)

    As far as how you build it, a Ritchey frame is nice regardless of where it was built. Build it how you want and enjoy it!
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    I have a 1987 Buyers Guide/Catalog from Mountain Bike Specialist. There is a full page on the Timber Wolf. It has everything you ever wanted the know about it. And yes, it's TIG welded, and came in medium green, and medium blue.
    Feel free to PM me for build spec questions.

    What's also interesting, it say's that in 87 the Timber Wolf, the Ascent, and the Ultra were built in Tom's shop for quality control.

    Are you sure you want to strip it, you have an unique bike there.

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    I PM'd you.

    Already tore it down, for powder coat the paint is shot beyond repair, it looks like a homeless guy owned it.

    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    I have a 1987 Buyers Guide/Catalog from Mountain Bike Specialist. There is a full page on the Timber Wolf. It has everything you ever wanted the know about it. And yes, it's TIG welded, and came in medium green, and medium blue.
    Feel free to PM me for build spec questions.

    What's also interesting, it say's that in 87 the Timber Wolf, the Ascent, and the Ultra were built in Tom's shop for quality control.

    Are you sure you want to strip it, you have an unique bike there.
    1985 Ritchey Timber Comp
    1985 Ritchey Ascent
    1987 Ritchey Timberwolf

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    I have a 1987 Buyers Guide/Catalog from Mountain Bike Specialist. There is a full page on the Timber Wolf. It has everything you ever wanted the know about it. And yes, it's TIG welded, and came in medium green, and medium blue.
    Feel free to PM me for build spec questions.

    What's also interesting, it say's that in 87 the Timber Wolf, the Ascent, and the Ultra were built in Tom's shop for quality control.

    Are you sure you want to strip it, you have an unique bike there.
    Good info!!

    The serial number for the bike at First Flight looks like a US serial number - it is "296." The serial number "A7C00361" does not. Possibly it was built early on before production was pulled back to the US and ultimately stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Definitely not a TimberWolf.
    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Okay. I "may" take it back... it could be a "Timber Wolf."
    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    one of the most knowledgable Ritchey guys
    Uh....I didn't mean Laffeaux?!!

    Quote Originally Posted by YakimaDeathYaks View Post
    I totally agree, i'm not arguing. i'm just trying to figure out why it came with Timberwolf decal and why its blue. Its original paint and decals. Also FFB has one identical a 87 Timberwolf and there saying its a US tig frame, wonder what the serial# on that one is...
    Ah yes. My apologies. Well, I actually gave up trying to figure it out because between his massive productivity and crazy serial numbers, it was just insane.

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    So.

    Did you decide on color?

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    Shawn,
    Send that 87 beta you have to the dude who runs the Old Mountainbikes website so he can post up the beta on his site please. Good stuff.......

    Seek: Old Mtn. Goat Bar Stem Combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tductape View Post
    Shawn,
    Send that 87 beta you have to the dude who runs the Old Mountainbikes website so he can post up the beta on his site please. Good stuff.......

    Yep. If you have any Ritchey related items that you'd like to share, I'll gladly post them. An '87 catalog would be nice.
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    I always miss the 87 catalog when researching! Picked up a few late 80's early 90's cataloges last summer but of course there wasn't an 87 in the pile.
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    87 Timber Wolf

    1987 Ritchey Timberwolf-securedownload%5B1%5D.jpg
    I've had a number of request for the 87 catalog page, so here is a quick photo.

    Lafferty, I will send you scans of all the 87 Ritchey's for your site.

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    Very cool! So can I say my 87 Ascent is built in the US now?

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    I'm going to have them try to match the color as close as possible and i'm trying to find a decal kit as well no luck on it yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    So.

    Did you decide on color?
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    Based on the article I'd say that some '87 frames were built and in the US and some in Japan. The article says: "Until recently the Ritchey Timberwolf... [was] built in Japan." From '84 to '86 the Timberwolf was US-built. Since production was being brought back to the US some time in '87, that means that for at least part of '87 these frames were not made in the US.

    I'd base the build location on the serial number. The US numbers are shorter, and the Japanese serial numbers tend to be longer.
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    So i was going with some Toplines for this build and after all the comments about them breaking and being flexy i decided not to use. Then a nice pair of Cook Bros. Cranks came up for a buy it now on Fleabay and i snatched them up and sold the Toplines, because i don't want divorced.

    Haven't seen to many pics of Ritcheys with Cook Bros. RSR newer dogbone looking ones, but thats whats gonna go on it, any opinion or suggestions thanks
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    Here is the 87 Mountain Bike Specialist catalog.


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