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    Quote Originally Posted by JAvendan View Post
    okay, i ordered one from amazon... will be here today.

    can't wait to try this!

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    i charged my camera using a wall outlet... took a bit of time.

    i had already inserted the 32gb micro sd card into the slot, read and reread the directions about formatting the media.

    after the green light lit up i grabbed the camera and connected to my mac... mac os x 10.8.4.

    i had downloaded the firmware and copied it to the micro sd card and modified the file to tell the camera to update its firmware.

    dismounted the camera from the mac and started it... it did its thing and after a few seconds the firmware updated!!!

    i messed with it a bit.

    i learned that rotating the lens thingy changes the orientation of the lens - ha ha.

    also, the low light performance is not that great indoors.

    i will test tomorrow outside leaving the white balance to auto.

    thank you for this thread!!!!

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    So what's everyone's opinion on doing the roam2 firmware upgrade vs not doing it? I'm expecting mine to show up today. I will be mounting it on my archery bow for hunting whitetail deer among many other uses depending on its performance. So low light needs to be filmable. Just wondering was it real worth the risk. Thanks guys. Great info here

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    Also does anyone know if u can plug the camera into a phone and view the videos? I looked a little on the android market and didn't find anything yet but that would be awesome. Or even if u could just upload them to the phone through USB and then view them. Thanks again

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    Seemed to work fine for everyone but myself. I'm going to try a couple more troubleshooting options, maybe wait for their tech support to call me back, and then most likely end up replacing through Amazon. I already used a helmet mount so hopefully that won't be an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadent3 View Post
    Seemed to work fine for everyone but myself. I'm going to try a couple more troubleshooting options, maybe wait for their tech support to call me back, and then most likely end up replacing through Amazon. I already used a helmet mount so hopefully that won't be an issue.
    You could always order new one first then stick the new helmet mount in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowhunt2005 View Post
    Also does anyone know if u can plug the camera into a phone and view the videos? I looked a little on the android market and didn't find anything yet but that would be awesome. Or even if u could just upload them to the phone through USB and then view them. Thanks again
    I don't know about plugging directly into a phone.

    But the low performance inside my house just walking around was not very good using my house lights.

    The camera was set for Auto.

    Also, I am running with low watt bulbs for energy conservation

    I just tested outside using a bike mount... Camera was still set to auto.

    Looks great!!!!

    I really was surprised with the quality for what I paid. I had a $50 Amazon gift card and $25 'credit' via my Amazon credit card - winnah winnah chicken dinnah

    Good luck w bow hunting and I'm sure you'll be testing before you go out.

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    So basically its worth a try? And if the results r less than expected, I can just hold the reset button and it will go back to the original firmware?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowhunt2005 View Post
    So basically its worth a try? And if the results r less than expected, I can just hold the reset button and it will go back to the original firmware?
    I would say it is worth it.

    Unfortunately, I don't know that hitting the reset button will bring you back to the original firmware... I'd rather not test

    Maybe someone has tried???

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    Mine arrived yesterday and I just installed the Roam2 firmware right off the bat. Records fine at 60 fps. Don't have anything to compare it to. Agree low light not so good but had it out on the boat today and in bright conditions looks great! Had it in the waterproof housing which it came with ( surprised!) on the Amazon deal for 129...
    Beats the go pro at 300 bux!

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    Quote Originally Posted by esteroali View Post
    Mine arrived yesterday and I just installed the Roam2 firmware right off the bat. Records fine at 60 fps. Don't have anything to compare it to. Agree low light not so good but had it out on the boat today and in bright conditions looks great! Had it in the waterproof housing which it came with ( surprised!) on the Amazon deal for 129...
    Beats the go pro at 300 bux!
    The lighting setting can be changed.

    Experiment. They make a difference on the trail, too.

    Note that full HD-1080p 30fps mode uses a 125 degree field of view while action HD-720p 60fps uses 170 degrees
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    Can the cameras audio "beep" noise still be turned completely off with the newer firmware too? Very important while hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    The lighting setting can be changed.

    Experiment. They make a difference on the trail, too.

    Note that full HD-1080p 30fps mode uses a 125 degree field of view while action HD-720p 60fps uses 170 degrees
    good to know... i will see about changing the settings.

    i think i will leave the camera at 760p 60fps.

    just looks gorgeous!

    i agree about the price compared to the gopro, too.

    the best deal out there... FTW!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowhunt2005 View Post
    Can the cameras audio "beep" noise still be turned completely off with the newer firmware too? Very important while hunting.
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    The light settings can be changed. But it's still a camera designed for daylight videography, so it will have some limitations as you might expect.

    Here is a night video I shot with mine. It's 720p/30fps and I used manual settings of Lighting: 60, Sharpness: 3, Exposure +1.

    The first and last parts were in a park (Garden of the Gods) with no external streetlights, so the only illumination was from other riders and my Niterider Rage (HID helmet light). You can see it mounted below and in front of the camera in some parts of the video. The sections lighted by streetlights came out pretty darn good, however, for what this camera is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    The light settings can be changed. But it's still a camera designed for daylight videography, so it will have some limitations as you might expect.

    Here is a night video I shot with mine. It's 720p/30fps and I used manual settings of Lighting: 60, Sharpness: 3, Exposure +1.

    The first and last parts were in a park (Garden of the Gods) with no external streetlights, so the only illumination was from other riders and my Niterider Rage (HID helmet light). You can see it mounted below and in front of the camera in some parts of the video. The sections lighted by streetlights came out pretty darn good, however, for what this camera is.
    Those are the same as the preset "dusk" setting. You can run the expose up to +4. Not a big difference, but a difference.

    This is raw video. Night ride on an open hillside. Camera on the headtube. Default setting, 30fps. LED lights on bar and helmet.
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    That's pretty good. On my road bike I don't have a ready mount. Down on the headtube, I suspect it would have picked up a bit more. Did you have that one run up to +4 exposure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    That's pretty good. On my road bike I don't have a ready mount. Down on the headtube, I suspect it would have picked up a bit more. Did you have that one run up to +4 exposure?
    Used the same settings as daylight. Will change them for another night ride. But that is pretty much how it looks while riding.
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    Ordered the Roam yesterday from Amazon and it was here today! I have already done the update and it seems to be working. I have made over 100 MTB vids with the Contour HD and love the 60fps. But I"m looking forward to the Roam with the auto power on, the waterproof and hopefully more dust proof.
    Also, my experience with Contour has been great. They have replaced the HD 2x's each time in under a week, paid for shipping and replaced rather than repaired. And the cameras had been used very hard and I'm impressed with the camera and with the warranty, but can't speak to phone support beyond replacement. I can't wait to take the camera out tomorrow for the lunch ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAvendan View Post
    I don't know about plugging directly into a phone.
    well, i found this...

    iPad mini usb camera adapter -contour roam camera - YouTube

    not a phone and not android based.

    but i think it will show some possibilities

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAvendan View Post
    well, i found this...

    iPad mini usb camera adapter -contour roam camera - YouTube

    not a phone and not android based.

    but i think it will show some possibilities

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    You can use the USB adaptors to download video and view it on the iPad. Can not change camera settings or view the video directly from the camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K2D2 View Post
    Ordered the Roam yesterday from Amazon and it was here today! I have already done the update and it seems to be working. I have made over 100 MTB vids with the Contour HD and love the 60fps. But I"m looking forward to the Roam with the auto power on, the waterproof and hopefully more dust proof.
    Also, my experience with Contour has been great. They have replaced the HD 2x's each time in under a week, paid for shipping and replaced rather than repaired. And the cameras had been used very hard and I'm impressed with the camera and with the warranty, but can't speak to phone support beyond replacement. I can't wait to take the camera out tomorrow for the lunch ride.
    The Roam is vastly better than the HD. My HD videos are fuzzy around the edges. The Roam is sharp in the whole frame. Longer battery life, too.

    I do wish the Roam had the 2 mode switch of the HD.
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    First effort with my new Roam and trying out my new ramp!

    I ordered the Roam on Monday from Amazon Prime, got it on Tuesday and was able to go for a ride at lunch yesterday and edit some video last night of me hitting my new practice ramp on my E29 and my usual lunch loop. Here's the video.

    Quote Originally Posted by K2D2 View Post
    Ordered the Roam yesterday from Amazon and it was here today! I have already done the update and it seems to be working. I have made over 100 MTB vids with the Contour HD and love the 60fps. But I"m looking forward to the Roam with the auto power on, the waterproof and hopefully more dust proof.
    Also, my experience with Contour has been great. They have replaced the HD 2x's each time in under a week, paid for shipping and replaced rather than repaired. And the cameras had been used very hard and I'm impressed with the camera and with the warranty, but can't speak to phone support beyond replacement. I can't wait to take the camera out tomorrow for the lunch ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K2D2 View Post
    I ordered the Roam on Monday from Amazon Prime, got it on Tuesday and was able to go for a ride at lunch yesterday and edit some video last night of me hitting my new practice ramp on my E29 and my usual lunch loop. Here's the video.
    that's awesome!!!

    if i rode at lunch it would be on the streets

    also, i bought the contour bike mounts and that's a very cool set.

    i love the extra long strap and the helmet mount is awesome.

    i can't wait to play around some more!!!

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    Thanks, just re-read this and have noticed that too and I'll let it go a little longer.
    Quote Originally Posted by edubfromktown View Post
    One thing I've found running 720p/60 fps "Action HD" mode: let the camera run a few seconds longer (than you typically would with the Roam v1 firmware) before turning it off. A couple of awesome videos ended up a bit too brief :/

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    i recorded my ride with my roam with the roam2 firmware...

    the ride was about 1 hour 15 minutes.

    i noticed that the video was split over 2 files.

    the first one being about 45 minutes or so.

    is this typical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAvendan View Post
    i recorded my ride with my roam with the roam2 firmware...

    the ride was about 1 hour 15 minutes.

    i noticed that the video was split over 2 files.

    the first one being about 45 minutes or so.

    is this typical?

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    Yes.

    From experience, turning the camera on and off several times during the ride makes it MUCH easier to view and edit later.
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    Yes.

    From experience, turning the camera on and off several times during the ride makes it MUCH easier to view and edit later.
    Thank you for the reply.

    Yes, I think that would be easier to have smaller clips to import.

    45 minutes of 720@60 takes a while to import!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAvendan View Post
    i recorded my ride with my roam with the roam2 firmware...

    the ride was about 1 hour 15 minutes.

    i noticed that the video was split over 2 files.

    the first one being about 45 minutes or so.

    is this typical?

    thank you,

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    That's interesting. I looked back through my clips and I have several that are over 45 minutes. But no files over 4GB.

    Maybe it's a file size limitation?

    [Update]Found the answer on the Contour site:

    Quote Originally Posted by Contour Support
    Thank you for contacting Contour support. With regards to your video files splitting, thiis occurs because our camera records in FAT32, and the inherent file size limitation of FAT32 is 4GB. So that no video is lost when a new file is created, the camera creates a new file once the video reaches around 3.8GB. These videos can be joined together with 3rd party software later, but unfortunately due to the FAT32 file size limitation, videos on the camera must be split up once they reach this size. If youíre looking to join clips, I might recommend using a free program called MPEG Streamclip, which can be found here: Squared 5 - MPEG Streamclip video converter for Mac and Windows. Thanks again for asking, Stephen, and please let us know if there is anything else we can do for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    That's interesting. I looked back through my clips and I have several that are over 45 minutes. But no files over 4GB.

    Maybe it's a file size limitation?

    [Update]Found the answer on the Contour site:
    ah!

    makes sense... now

    thank you for that.

    i will actually stop recording intermittently to create smaller files.

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    well folks,

    during my first ride with my roam i knocked it with my knee and it popped out of the strap mount over the frame of my bike.

    camera survived but the protective lens cover took a few dings as did the rotating bezel.

    luckily, again, the camera was good and the dings in thee lens cover do not interfere with the video.

    the bezel rotates with no problems.

    BUT, it is a little ugly to look at - ha ha.

    i looked online and found the replacement lens protectors and even found a company that USED to sell kits with included lens protectors, o-rings and replacement bezels of different sizes for filters.

    unfortunately, no longer offer that kit - booooooo.

    i emailed contour and the are sending a free bezel - WIN WIN.

    so, right now, contour customer is on my pedestal.

    i hope to update this after i receive my replacement bezel.

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    New cam owners be careful... I did this not long after getting mine. Too busy messing with camera when I should have been paying full attention to the (very technical and steep) trail. I somehow managed to walk away without sustaining camera, bike or body damage


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    Quote Originally Posted by edubfromktown View Post
    New cam owners be careful... I did this not long after getting mine. Too busy messing with camera when I should have been paying full attention to the (very technical and steep) trail. I somehow managed to walk away without sustaining camera, bike or body damage

    Oh, no!!!

    I did that earlier this year... When I didn't have a camera

    Glad you're okay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by edubfromktown View Post
    New cam owners be careful... I did this not long after getting mine. Too busy messing with camera when I should have been paying full attention to the (very technical and steep) trail. I somehow managed to walk away without sustaining camera, bike or body damage

    I don't know... from the angle, that trail looks neither steep, nor very technical. But a great crash!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    I don't know... from the angle, that trail looks neither steep, nor very technical. But a great crash!
    That was at the bottom of a rocky/twisty DH trail that has sizable gap jumps at the top and lots of ramps along the way down.
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    for those of you that are subscribed to this thread and have not seen this post...

    RIP Contour

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    Has anyone found a site that offers alternative lenses for the contour? I want to get rid of the fisheye and could use a standard lens or Night vision if they are available. I realize these mods would most likely be 3rd party but I think it could be done right to upgrade the camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gapjump View Post
    Has anyone found a site that offers alternative lenses for the contour? I want to get rid of the fisheye and could use a standard lens or Night vision if they are available. I realize these mods would most likely be 3rd party but I think it could be done right to upgrade the camera.
    the only thing i have seen is this...

    Amazon.com: Contour 3400 Lens Kit: Camera & Photo

    you replace the ring and can add filters.

    the price seems to have at least doubled from when i last saw it!

    [edit] doesn't appear to thread correctly.

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    That kit looks useful but it only contains covers and I want a new lens. I did a bit more searching and I found this place called ragecams.com and they have all sorts of camera mods. I found this lens which says it will work form contour and go pro Sony HDR as15 hdr as10 flat lens no fish eye contour plus contour roam contour p | HD Wearable Video Custom Mods By RageCams
    They only have one lens listed for contour but if the threads to this lens match up to a go pro than any of the go pro lenses should match up and work on the contour.

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    nice. are you going to get it???

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAvendan View Post
    nice. are you going to get it???

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    Methinks he may actually be selling them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gapjump View Post
    That kit looks useful but it only contains covers and I want a new lens. I did a bit more searching and I found this place called ragecams.com and they have all sorts of camera mods. I found this lens which says it will work form contour and go pro Sony HDR as15 hdr as10 flat lens no fish eye contour plus contour roam contour p | HD Wearable Video Custom Mods By RageCams
    They only have one lens listed for contour but if the threads to this lens match up to a go pro than any of the go pro lenses should match up and work on the contour.
    Do you trust a company that sells the Roam2 for double the list price?
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    After reading this, I ended up ordering the waterproof bundle for $107.77 from Amazon and updated the firmware without any issues. Unfortunately I didn't pay attention and found the waterproof bundle does not come with any helmet mounts, only a surf board mount...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    Methinks he may actually be selling them.
    Nah I'm not selling them and I havn't ordered anything yet. I want to try and find a cheaper place to get them from because like someone pointed out they are selling roam 2 for twice the retail price so I could most likely find a lens kit cheaper but so far no results. I'll keep you updated if I find a better price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sand wedge View Post
    After reading this, I ended up ordering the waterproof bundle for $107.77 from Amazon and updated the firmware without any issues. Unfortunately I didn't pay attention and found the waterproof bundle does not come with any helmet mounts, only a surf board mount...
    i bought my second ROAM the waterproof bundle

    before this i bought the bike mount set... or, whatever it's called.

    so, i'm good-to-go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sand wedge View Post
    After reading this, I ended up ordering the waterproof bundle for $107.77 from Amazon and updated the firmware without any issues. Unfortunately I didn't pay attention and found the waterproof bundle does not come with any helmet mounts, only a surf board mount...
    I bought my second ROAM with the surfboard/waterproof kit, too, for $102 at Amazon. I'll use the housing and probably will find a place to use the surfboard/flat surface mount.

    But think of it this way. The housing is about $20 or so and the mount about $15 (both separate retail prices), so you got the camera for about $70 - quite a bargain. Now go buy your preferred bike mount kit and get video-ing! (And you'll still be ahead of the game)
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    Flashed my new Roam with Roam2 firmware today.
    Easy easy.

    I did format the card (with the cam) before and after the update.

    Original firmware version was 1.10.

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    no need to flash the ROAM to get ROAM2 performance... get the ROAM2!!!

    Contour - ROAM2 Action HD Camcorder - Black - 1801K

    $100.

    great price

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    And the dumping begins?
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    Turn your Contour Roam into a Contour Roam 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by JAvendan View Post
    no need to flash the ROAM to get ROAM2 performance... get the ROAM2!!!

    Contour - ROAM2 Action HD Camcorder - Black - 1801K

    $100.

    great price

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadent3 View Post
    New member and I found this how to after purchasing the Roam. I got the ROAM within the past two weeks. I did all of the steps and after I hit the "Status" button my camera completely and totally died. It doesn't turn on at all, it doesn't show up on my computer when plugged in, I can't format the SD Card to return to the original settings. Any suggestions? Do you think Contour caught on to this and this is the solution?
    I'm in the same boat, did you ever resolve the problem?
    Does anyone have any suggestions?

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