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    To all the GoPro/POV vets...

    ...I am new to the POV scene and was wondering if you all have your top maybe 5 or so noob mistakes or techniques typical to noobs that everyone is just tired of seeing? What catches your interest rather than, "not another of these!" type vids?

    Thanks!

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    20 mins of just helmet mounted gets kinda tired

    get multi mounts and switch it up...

    GoPro- Best spot for POV is chest mount.. helmet's OK if a full face and it's tight fitting otherwise it's all shaky..

    Just play.. honestly I still like watching peoples trials and errors... as long as they are edited down to around 5 mins.. after that they get tedious.

    get good software... editing can make a OK vid good-great!
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    To all the GoPro/POV vets...

    1. A lack of editing. I'm not interested in your 45 minute plus video of you riding your favorite trail- use your video to tell a story, and only present what you really want the viewer to see. Same goes for crash or big hit videos- does your viewer really need four minutes of set-up for 10 seconds of a good section or a crash?

    2. Lack of variety in camera angles. The helmet mount is often the sturdiest, but without something in the frame to keep your viewers' attention, just looking at empty trails gets kind of boring after a while. Experiment with your mounts and the kind of angles you can get, and see where that takes you. Also, be creative in how you use your gopro- there's all kinds of cool DIY projects out there, ranging from 3rd-person mounts to zip line camera rigs, etc.

    3. The rules of photography still apply- composition, rule of 3rds, etc.

    However, the single best way to get me to turn off your vid early would be having that godawful "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" song as a soundtrack like everyone else on YouTube.

    Good luck and have fun! Gopros are awesome!

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    Thanks guys!! The first accessory I purchased was the chest mount. Still experimenting with the right angle so as to not just have bike and small amount of trail. It seems to be pretty sturdy and not much vibration or shakiness. I am just using iMovie right now until I get a bit better and want to invest in more advanced editing software. Any iMovie tricks or pitfalls?

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    The lower the camera, the better you see the size of obstacles on the trail. From a helmet mount, you can clean all kinds of gnarly rocks and drop offs and when you play it back the trail looks flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PantslessWithWolves View Post
    1. A lack of editing. I'm not interested in your 45 minute plus video of you riding your favorite trail- use your video to tell a story, and only present what you really want the viewer to see. Same goes for crash or big hit videos- does your viewer really need four minutes of set-up for 10 seconds of a good section or a crash?

    2. Lack of variety in camera angles. The helmet mount is often the sturdiest, but without something in the frame to keep your viewers' attention, just looking at empty trails gets kind of boring after a while. Experiment with your mounts and the kind of angles you can get, and see where that takes you. Also, be creative in how you use your gopro- there's all kinds of cool DIY projects out there, ranging from 3rd-person mounts to zip line camera rigs, etc.

    3. The rules of photography still apply- composition, rule of 3rds, etc.

    However, the single best way to get me to turn off your vid early would be having that godawful "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" song as a soundtrack like everyone else on YouTube.

    Good luck and have fun! Gopros are awesome!
    This man speaks the truth. You have no idea the comments that I get when I try to tell people to "tell a story" such as: "it takes too much time, I just want to make a video".

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    Keep the nozzle of your hydration pack away from the lens while shooting; it looks almost "pornographic" to have that thing hitting you "in the face" while you watch your vid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EABiker View Post
    Keep the nozzle of your hydration pack away from the lens while shooting; it looks almost "pornographic" to have that thing hitting you "in the face" while you watch your vid!
    Haha! I found this out the hard way (no pun intended).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitmenOnlyInc View Post
    I am just using iMovie right now until I get a bit better and want to invest in more advanced editing software. Any iMovie tricks or pitfalls?
    I movie is pretty powerful.. can do a LOT if you know all the hidden stuff it has...

    First off, turn on the "Advanced Controls" in the - Pref's - general - section just click the little check mark and a few extras pop up.... get used to the basic interface then search around the web and find all the special effects and such that it'll do. Somewhere I did a simple "green screen" demo and also font and color changes... there are TONS of demos and stuff all over the web. but first just hit Apple's website and watch their quick tut's they will help a lot.

    here's the basic demo for Imovie I did some time ago...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQVFuNWaY_Y

    and here's the one I did with green screen title/background effects...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z5KmAS0YmY
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    Quote Originally Posted by EABiker View Post
    Keep the nozzle of your hydration pack away from the lens while shooting; it looks almost "pornographic" to have that thing hitting you "in the face" while you watch your vid!




    magnet bite valve.. like 7 bucks at EMS and other sporting goods stores!!... wont ride without one always hated the damn camel units bobbling around.. and the Nelgene is about the best bite valve out there!! Better than the Camel any day... the articulating shut off is nice and big and easy to do with a full glove on (something no other can easily do) and they used to sell replacement gels,,, thou I guess they stopped that
    Still for 7 bucks.. if I were to buy a new pack tomorrow, I'd get a magnet bite valve and pull the stock one off right out of the gate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomllama View Post


    magnet bite valve.. like 7 bucks at EMS and other sporting goods stores!!... wont ride without one always hated the damn camel units bobbling around.. and the Nelgene is about the best bite valve out there!! Better than the Camel any day... the articulating shut off is nice and big and easy to do with a full glove on (something no other can easily do) and they used to sell replacement gels,,, thou I guess they stopped that
    Still for 7 bucks.. if I were to buy a new pack tomorrow, I'd get a magnet bite valve and pull the stock one off right out of the gate.
    That's the set on Osprey packs but not all tubing is the same diameter. I think the Osprey tubing is bigger than Camelback tubing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    That's the set on Osprey packs but not all tubing is the same diameter. I think the Osprey tubing is bigger than Camelback tubing.
    Osprey's packs use the nalgene hydro units yes.......

    No, camels hose is slightly smaller but actually the internal dia is close.... Run hot water thru the hose for a min or 2 and it'll stretch out easy and let the bite fit
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    Quote Originally Posted by MC uber tater View Post
    Simply an opinion. Many folks disagree with you.

    Absolutely false.

    If you know what you are doing then you can capture very good helmetcam video using "XC" helmets or other helmets that are not full face.

    Garbage in = garbage out. No amount of cheesy "work" in post will take mediocre footage and make it great.

    most people agree that the chest is the best view.. not that you can't get good footage in other locations, just the gopro is kinda blocky and sticks out in the way... can't mount on top tube and such as your knees will hit it,. unlike the may cigar styles ... I do think the GoPro's actual footage is cleaner and clearer.. but more limited in locations...

    never seen good "XC helmet" footage,.. it always shakes unless they've strapped all kindas of extra stuff to hold the helmet... also like was stated before the helmet mounts loose a lot of the texture of the view and gives a flat appearance of the terrain...

    garbage footage, yes.. OK footage can be edited with "pieces" of just OK footage that can be made at least interesting...
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    Deleted response as he's gone
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomllama View Post
    I movie is pretty powerful.. can do a LOT if you know all the hidden stuff it has...

    First off, turn on the "Advanced Controls" in the - Pref's - general - section just click the little check mark and a few extras pop up.... get used to the basic interface then search around the web and find all the special effects and such that it'll do. Somewhere I did a simple "green screen" demo and also font and color changes... there are TONS of demos and stuff all over the web. but first just hit Apple's website and watch their quick tut's they will help a lot.

    here's the basic demo for Imovie I did some time ago...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQVFuNWaY_Y

    and here's the one I did with green screen title/background effects...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z5KmAS0YmY
    Thanks, much appreciated!!!

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    Deleted response as he's gone
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    Deleted response as he's gone
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    You don't come into a forum and start giving people sh*t in your first ever posts.
    Quote Originally Posted by MC uber tater View Post
    Strike #2. Not my first posts. I predict that you'll have a very difficult time understanding that but regardless, you're wrong again.
    oh it's quite easy to understand you've been banned and had to change names regularly .....
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    Mods, can we just cut this guy and all our crappy response to and from him out please.... poor OP having to sift through the crap this guy caused...
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    oh and thanks you... just got 2 more "likes" on my videos on you tube.. guess people like my "crap" LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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    I came into this thread hoping to find some constructive advice for using the Gopro I got for Christmas. Instead I get two pages of this guy... Thanks for that.

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