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    Who's cleaned the Sentinel Pine Climb?

    Maybe my skills have dimished since the 90s, but for the life of me the steep sections Sentinel Pine climb keeps kicking my fatass..

    Is it me? I got up the first rooty funkafied section, but then there's a steeper shorter pitch a little further up..

    Severum, you probably wheelie up it

    Maybe a duely hangs better through that rough stuff?

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    I love that climb.
    A full suspension rig deffinately lets you keep your momentum going for sure.

    Just pick clean lines and pick your points of hard efforts wisely, saving a little for the last pitch before the top.
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    Only time I've done it is by doing what Greg said.
    Really slow and methodical at the bottom saving everything for the final burst at the top.
    Not an easy climb at all.
    Every time I've tried to clean it since I get hung up in the same spot...just below the top.
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    just below the top, Exactly!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Locotiki
    Only time I've done it is by doing what Greg said.
    Really slow and methodical at the bottom saving everything for the final burst at the top.
    Not an easy climb at all.
    Every time I've tried to clean it since I get hung up in the same spot...just below the top.
    That the same spot that got me last time.. After making it up the first sectionthinking I was all badass,, I had no juice for that last man standing hill, hit a root and got jar'd off..

    Heading out there at 3pm to try again..

    New Bike in the works, damn LBS has my wheels on lockdown, waiting for spokes to come in..
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    No doubt that is a grunt of a climb up at the top, I make it about 50% of the time on the SS with 32:16.

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    This shot shows the top section where I think you guys are talking about.

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    Ha!

    Nice picture of me, not making it.

    I've never made it, but if I'm not mistaken, Greg actually made it up that day in the middle ring.

    Very nice ride Snowdrifter.

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    I will clean it next year. I can take the bottom section if I try. The top would be easier if I didn't have to get all burned up on the lower part. I definetely have the technical skills, just not the legs. One time a year or so ago I did it with just three dabs.

    I have seen about 5 people do it.

    There are plans to reroute the trail (not mine) so get practicing now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter
    New Bike in the works, damn LBS has my wheels on lockdown, waiting for spokes to come in..
    Who are you using for a shop?

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    S&W seem like decent folk, a little backwoods.. Goodales a ripoff!! Suggestions for future builds?

    I just got back from BB, did two laps up Sentinel, then down that sweet little singletrack that runs between Sentinel and Carr Ridge, steep n narrow, smooth... fun...

    The climb PIMP Slapped me both times, almost cleaned it the firt time.. I think need to lose 20-30lbs to lift my arse over dem roots...

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter
    S&W seem like decent folk, a little backwoods.. Goodales a ripoff!! Suggestions for future builds?

    I just got back from BB, did two laps up Sentinel, then down that sweet little singletrack that runs between Sentinel and Carr Ridge, steep n narrow, smooth... fun...

    The climb PIMP Slapped me both times, almost cleaned it the firt time.. I think need to lose 20-30lbs to lift my arse over dem roots...
    They are ok. They are on my not to go to list though. Some like them, some don't. Just push them to get stuff done if it get's hung up. I can't recommend anyone in Concord right now anyway. My friend owns a shop, but he doesn't appreciate the good word too much. I do all my own bike work... and others too.

    Once you make it up Sentinal Pine, you can shoot for the toll booth side of catamount. I have heard legend of people doing that, but you have to be super fit and quite technical of a rider.

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    I tried that Catamount climb one rainy day, was fun, pushed, rode, pushed, rode.. Seemed like it would be a wicked fun descent, but with V brakes in the rain, solo, would have been foolish..

    I do all my own wrenching as well, except wheels.. though I did buy a true stand the other day, and will attempt a build this winter when cabin fevor sets in..

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter
    Maybe a duely hangs better through that rough stuff?
    Quote Originally Posted by galleywench
    No doubt that is a grunt of a climb up at the top, I make it about 50% of the time on the SS with 32:16.
    I didn't make it last time, but I love that climb on my rigid 32:18 SS. Not as hard as on your rig, galley, but wicked fun just the same. I voted for that as my favorite trail at BB on that thread earlier this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack Dave
    Nice picture of me, not making it.

    I've never made it, but if I'm not mistaken, Greg actually made it up that day in the middle ring.

    Very nice ride Snowdrifter.

    Brian in the Picture next to Dave cleaning the climb in the middle ring. As that is all he runs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Severum
    I will clean it next year. I can take the bottom section if I try. The top would be easier if I didn't have to get all burned up on the lower part. I definetely have the technical skills, just not the legs. One time a year or so ago I did it with just three dabs.

    I have seen about 5 people do it.

    There are plans to reroute the trail (not mine) so get practicing now.

    That climb is all about three sections.

    1. The bottom you need to ease into as to not burn yourself up early. Managing your effort over the roots and ruts. Smoothness is key.
    2. The middle is all about recovering for the last effort at the top. There is a false flat section that you need to be weary of as well. Set yourself up riders left to be properly lined up for the last effort.
    3. The last section is just under all out effort to get over those rocks and roots. The good news is that you get to rest at the top. Waiting for all your bros.

    When you look at the climb in this way it really isn't that hard.
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    Who's riding Sunday, and where??

    Game on..

    Was checking out that rock on Carr Ridge you and Greg did during the group ride awhile back.. That was dope on the rigid SS The drop was so burly, but the transition into was fricken squirly, props to u 2.. I was like, ummm, maybe next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter
    Game on..

    Was checking out that rock on Carr Ridge you and Greg did during the group ride awhile back.. That was dope on the rigid SS The drop was so burly, but the transition into was fricken squirly, props to u 2.. I was like, ummm, maybe next time.
    which rock Son?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogreg
    That climb is all about three sections......... When you look at the climb in this way it really isn't that hard.
    I am actually quite intimate with the climb as I see most of it in my slow state and as I don't get out enough, I frequent Bear Brook often.

    Not that this is why I don't finish it, but on large group rides that I am sweeping (as I usually do), I tend to have to ride around or stall to wait for someone to get out of the way. If you want a challenge, stay at the back and not have a clear climb the whole way.

    When you look at the climb in this way it isn't really that easy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severum
    I am actually quite intimate with the climb as I see most of it in my slow state and as I don't get out enough, I frequent Bear Brook often.

    Not that this is why I don't finish it, but on large group rides that I am sweeping (as I usually do), I tend to have to ride around or stall to wait for someone to get out of the way. If you want a challenge, stay at the back and not have a clear climb the whole way.

    When you look at the climb in this way it isn't really that easy..
    Thats why I charge up that climb on every ride we do out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by severum
    If you want a challenge, stay at the back and not have a clear climb the whole way.

    When you look at the climb in this way it isn't really that easy..
    I'll have to try that next time. I think you get style points for stalling, right? That's what Suresh always said anyways. Did you hosers get my PM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PutAwayWet
    I'll have to try that next time. I think you get style points for stalling, right? That's what Suresh always said anyways. Did you hosers get my PM?
    Style, that is what I got then.

    I got the pm. Thanks. I have been wearing a lot of the Icebreaker brand. Great stuff.

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    Where is this climb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh
    Where is this climb?
    It's near the beginning of the Sentinal Pines trail on the 1 mile road end, at Bear Brook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack Dave
    It's near the beginning of the Sentinal Pines trail on the 1 mile road end, at Bear Brook.
    OK, this is the VT, NH and ME forum... can you be a little more specific on where 1 mile road at Bear Brook is?

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    Bear Brook Park in NH, about 10 miles east of Concord.. Good Stuff..

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh
    OK, this is the VT, NH and ME forum... can you be a little more specific on where 1 mile road at Bear Brook is?
    Bear Brook State park Allenstown NH

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    Cool, thanks. I gotta try and get up there one of these days!

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    Oddly enough I noticed on the Nemba forums that the plans are in place to take this great climb away as it sits now. All that they are waiting on is approval from the land manager.

    SD - let's get out there next week and make this happen. I say lungs are going to fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severum
    Oddly enough I noticed on the Nemba forums that the plans are in place to take this great climb away as it sits now. All that they are waiting on is approval from the land manager.

    SD - let's get out there next week and make this happen. I say lungs are going to fly.
    I don't get it? Are they changing the trail/road due to it being a semi-hard climb for biking, or because of some other reason?

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    It is a difficult climb because it is highly eroded and rutted. Some holes are a foot deep.

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    They are changing it because it is an eroded mess. I have been riding that trail since the early 90's and the trailbed has dropped about 3 feet below original grade. Next time your there, notice that the bottom of the trail where it intersects with 1 mile road is all sand. That sand was once part of the hillside sentinel pine climbs.
    I am all for difficult and challenging trails, but that section is not sustainable in its current state and will only get worse.

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    To be clear, I am completely in agreement that it should be rerouted. I just want to actually climb it without dabbing before that happens.
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    I hear ya, I attempt it with little success every time, I was just giving my opinion on why it is being rerouted... This isn't a case of trail sanitation, the whole hill is washing down the trail.

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    I thought that there was some kind of history with the trail that makes it so they can't reroute it. Something about some old wagon trail or something.

    Again, I agree they need to reroute the trail. I expect a lot of switchbacks.

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    Trail maintenance this weekend at Bear Brook, Sunday April 29 8a toll booth.
    Getting it ready for the Boogie on June 10th (and the May 20th BB-BBQ! )
    You can also voice your disapproval of trail re-routing due to erosion to those who came up with that crazy idea during this time.

    For me, I make more tech climbs on the rigid SS than I ever could on the geared FS, why? not sure.

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    Who is disapproving or think it is a crazy idea Dan? I personally just need a couple attempts at it before the change happens.

    Comments made here are based on years of riding the trail and people anticipating the loss of one of thier favorite climbs. Everyone here knows it is far over do to be rerouted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severum
    Who is disapproving or think it is a crazy idea Dan? I personally just need a couple attempts at it before the change happens.

    Comments made here are based on years of riding the trail and people anticipating the loss of one of thier favorite climbs. Everyone here knows it is far over do to be rerouted.
    I just love it when NEMBA is used in derogatory way, yet they are a HUGE reason we still have trails to ride. Whose to say the re-route won't be better?
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    Setinal Pine trail climb is doo-doo. I have never not cleaned it.

    and I am glad to see it go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AOF
    I just love it when NEMBA is used in derogatory way, yet they are a HUGE reason we still have trails to ride. Whose to say the re-route won't be better?
    I agree completely that Nemba and organizations of the like are the only way we will continue to have trails.

    Actually there was nothing derogatory in my eyes about the comment (which I edited). His words were chosen well and definately are in the spirit of Nemba. He is the VP of our chapter. I don't know how to be tactful, I just ripped off the first thing that came to my mind. If you knew me, then you would understand.

    The only reason that I brought the thread back from the dead was to give the few of us some heads up to get out there for one last effort to climb the trail before it is rerouted/repaired. The thread was started to see who can climb it, now time is limited.

    I can picture just how the trail will come out as I am familar with the designers/builders of the reroute as well the work they have done with other trails. I think it will be lots of fun. Perhaps actually fun for more than the handful of riders that can climb it regularly now. Carr ridge was much improved after the reroute around similar erosion. Perhaps the new Sentinal Pine will be a favorite for many in the future.

    Edit - Ahh, perhaps the the "far over do" comment could be taken as derogatory. Again, not a remark intended against the people that maintain the trails. I know as well as I think you do it is nearly impossible to get anything approved at Bear Brook. This concept has been discussed for a long time and is a major project. Major projects tend to take forever to get approved there especially. Broken Boulder has been on the list for a while too. While it's erosion isn't as severe, it has become a nice path for water to run directly down the hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Severum
    I agree completely that Nemba and organizations of the like are the only way we will continue to have trails.
    Cool, we are on the same page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Severum
    Actually there was nothing derogatory in my eyes about the comment (which I edited). His words were chosen well and definately are in the spirit of Nemba. He is the VP of our chapter. I don't know how to be tactful, I just ripped off the first thing that came to my mind. If you knew me, then you would understand.
    OK, fair enough


    Quote Originally Posted by Severum
    The only reason that I brought the thread back from the dead was to give the few of us some heads up to get out there for one last effort to climb the trail before it is rerouted/repaired. The thread was started to see who can climb it, now time is limited.
    Cool, kill it while you can.


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    I can picture just how the trail will come out as I am familar with the designers/builders of the reroute as well the work they have done with other trails. I think it will be lots of fun. Perhaps actually fun for more than the handful of riders that can climb it regularly now. Carr ridge was much improved after the reroute around similar erosion. Perhaps the new Sentinal Pine will be a favorite for many in the future.
    Carr Ridge was a fun project, same guy who does the FOMBA trails has his hands in this re-route I believe, and he is a great resource for NEMBA, helped me with stuff at the Rock.

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    Kevin really does know his stuff. You can see his style in the Carr Ridge reroute.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by galleywench
    They are changing it because it is an eroded mess. I have been riding that trail since the early 90's and the trailbed has dropped about 3 feet below original grade. Next time your there, notice that the bottom of the trail where it intersects with 1 mile road is all sand. That sand was once part of the hillside sentinel pine climbs.
    I am all for difficult and challenging trails, but that section is not sustainable in its current state and will only get worse.
    Thanks. I was just curious about it. Sounds like a good reason to me.

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    NEMBA stinks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Severum
    Oddly enough I noticed on the Nemba forums that the plans are in place to take this great climb away as it sits now. All that they are waiting on is approval from the land manager.

    SD - let's get out there next week and make this happen. I say lungs are going to fly.
    How does Thursday @ 5:30pm sound?

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    It would sound fine except Bear Brook is a mess. Sentinal Pine is in very bad shape all the way to Carr Ridge. We should give it a solid week or two.

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