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    Strava vs. Manners

    Recently I was told of a incident about a single 20 something MTBer in the area out on his cyber-race on his local loop coming upon 2 hot MTBer women, one of which had just had a nasty spill. While she was picking up her bike, trying to evaluate her well being, this self-proclaimed elitest MTBer comes hammering up on the scene of the incident. The dude refused to stop....mumbled something about strava, and hammered by. WTF?
    Is strava really that important?
    Females are too few and far between on our MTB trails.....let alone hot ones....that might need assistance...."?"
    Dudes....I would hope that Strava has not replaced good company with members of the opposite sex on these chilly fall evenings. And while you may spend considerable time spanking it over your latest, fastest lap time on your backyard trail...a little one on one human interaction surely out-rates your bike centric self pleasuring....right? Am I alone on this or is Strava REALLY that good?
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    Hot MTB chicks over strava anyday.
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    +2 on Hot MTBR chicks, ahemmm... I mean females. sorry Jesus.

    * pictures or it didn't happen.
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    That's not how I heard it happened at all. Maybe you should just mind your own instead of continuing to fixate on "stretchypants".
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    It happened. I heard the story from the hottie's mouth.
    Curious if this strava thing was an epidemic....or just an isolated case. Given the quantity of priceless content coming over the facebook, I think I let alot slide without comment. AND, he wears baggies now for photo shoots, doesn't he. Maybe with a little more public exposure we can get him to curb his Strava habit...just a touch.

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    Again, that's not how I heard it. Not from "the hottie" (I don't know why you are objectifying her like that), her boyfriend or from "stretchypants". I was talking to a friend of yours the other day who was asking me if I knew stretchypants. He asked because he was trying to understand your obsession with him. He said on the last ride with you, you couldn't do anything but talk about stretchypants and the internet. What's the deal? He's a good dude, and so are you, there doesn't need to be any hate.

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    I'm with Dave. Any chick (hottie or not) deserves some courtesy out on the trails. I'm no fan of DBAG XC guys hammering by like they are a Lance Armstrong. I don't care how strong of a rider you think you are. We're supposed to be a community here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by epic View Post
    Again, that's not how I heard it. Not from "the hottie" (I don't know why you are objectifying her like that), her boyfriend or from "stretchypants". I was talking to a friend of yours the other day who was asking me if I knew stretchypants. He asked because he was trying to understand your obsession with him. He said on the last ride with you, you couldn't do anything but talk about stretchypants and the internet. What's the deal? He's a good dude, and so are you, there doesn't need to be any hate.
    There's no hate. Just amusement. Last ride....christ.....I haven't ridden with anyone in Months. This really isn't the point of the post....although you are tryint to make it personal between us, the question is....is STRAVA that important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    ...the question is....is STRAVA that important.
    No, I don't think so. I understand the fun of "racing" against yourself and/or your buddies and being the temporary KOM, but not to the point of being anti-social, shortcutting corners, or flying by nice looking women.

    I'd like to put Strava-free zone status on a couple of local trails to keep some a-hole from slamming into uphill traffic.

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    Why are girls who ride bikes referred to as Chicks or Hotties? Can't they just be females?

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    Quote Originally Posted by radair View Post
    I'd like to put Strava-free zone status on a couple of local trails to keep some a-hole from slamming into uphill traffic.
    You can flag segments in strava as dangerous, the segment will no longer keep results. Another user might create the segment again, but you can keep flagging.

    * one problem, oce you join strava, you might get the bug yourself
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    Just learned about STRAVA, glad that I'm not an XC guy so I don't have to spend time worrying about this.

    And as for trail courtesy, who cares what sex you are. Dbags that stand and stop in the middle of trails are Dbags, Dbags who run you off the trail are Dbags. You can be a Dbag to guys, and you can be a Dbag to girls, and anyone can be a Dbag, but nobody should.
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    Yeah those XC guys with no courtesy I sometimes dont move over. If they want to beef, Im for it no problem either on the trail or in the parking lot. Most are cool though at least when I ride so I show them courtesy and move over for them.

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    No one should be a DBAG to any rider. Girl or guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itchyjesus View Post
    Why are girls who ride bikes referred to as Chicks or Hotties? Can't they just be females?
    Because objectification is sometimes the quickest means of communicating a point. If they were ugly, we wouldn't mention them.

    I ride in Montana de Oro a good deal and there are plenty of chumps using strava. None of them are the fastest. It's the guys who don't try to prove anything because they already know what's up that are the quick ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchyjesus View Post
    Why are girls who ride bikes referred to as Chicks or Hotties? Can't they just be females?
    I think mudbunnies are the correct term..

    As for the strava part, how long before someone teaches his bulldog that someone yelling strava is an invitation to attack? Think of it as a community service, anyone in such a hurry that he has to yell strava and disregard the well being of others can probably use the adrenaline rush from being chased by an angry dog to set a new KOM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cman8 View Post
    If they want to beef, Im for it no problem either on the trail or in the parking lot..
    tough guy alert
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    The objectification is just proof that the junkonomic cut out saddles work, and that now libidos are at full charge on the trails
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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    tough guy alert
    Just not afraid to scrap if need be. Especially with a DBAG who thinks the trails are only theirs. But like I said most people where I ride at least are courteous. Probably like 99.9%

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    Quote Originally Posted by cman8 View Post
    Just not afraid to scrap if need be. Especially with a DBAG who thinks the trails are only theirs. But like I said most people where I ride at least are courteous. Probably like 99.9%
    Anyone who will willingly fight instead of seek conflict resolution is a DBAG, 100% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    Anyone who will willingly fight instead of seek conflict resolution is a DBAG, 100% of the time.
    right.
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    wow, got to be the dumbest thread ever...
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    What's Strava?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockpharmer View Post
    What's Strava?
    It's an online penis size meter so you can compare yourself with your friends and see whose the biggest
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlockinz View Post
    it's an online penis size meter so you can compare yourself with your friends and see whose the biggest
    lol

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    If someone finds "chicks" as an offensive term in a post that was intended to bring a bit a levity to the table, then I appologize. I find all Women who are outdoors, on a bike, riding singletrack attractive, so I'll refer to them as "hotties" as a term of respect. Folks that are offended by the use of the term here on MTBR probably go through life with their trowsers in a bunch anyway. Feel free to call me a Dude...which orginally was a slang term for male genitalia. I like a bit of competition once in a while. Certain loops I see as good test pieces for myself. I've tried to get some friendly competition going on the waterbury loop. But turning ever trail into a race course on every ride seems to be resulting in a lost sense of community and basic manners, at least around here. Curious if others have run into this shift in priciple...apparently yes. Too much competition takes the fun out of things IMO, and it's a shame we all may be subjected to that 'tude while trying to avoid it out in the BC.

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    When i first started using Strava I certainly hauled @$$ when it was safe and tried to get great times, but that never made me a disrespectful/dangerous strava rider. after about two weeks of using it I could care less about times and sometimes dont even ride with it on. I only find it beneficial to help track my mileage, average speed, and where I have riden, and for the most part they are inaccurate anyways, so its just a basic guideline for my persformance. It was fun for all of two weeks. That being said I have been riding for over 15 years and there were jerks on the trails back before smartphones and strava.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlockinz View Post
    It's an online penis size meter so you can compare yourself with your friends and see whose the biggest
    Now that is funny right there! Nice one,
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    hey so lets first start with Jon S. and take on what happened.

    "So I asked xxxx about the on trail "incident" (keep in mind she never even mentioned it to me, that's how insignificant it was to her). She considered the whole thing a non-issue, and never even thought meeting up with you on the trail was something that could turn into one... So don't sweat it at all (not that you were), all is well in the REAL world smile"

    I was the ******bag XC racer or whatever you guys want to call me. I also be known as streachy pants because certain homophoic posters and riders local to stowe must be very turned on by the site of me in spandex. I truly apologize that my huge buldging thighs somehow turn you on.

    So was coming down hardy's haul and saw Caitrin(girl pictured) and xxxxxxx both riders I know and I would considers friends on the side of trail. I said "hey guys" , they warned about slippery bridge, I replied "thanks, I got it". I had no idea why they were on the side or which way they were going but I just kept on going. I get to the bottom turned around and met up with them and talked about the upcoming group ride. Niether said anything to me about me passing them and I apologized for not stopping but figured everything was ok, and it was.

    Noone that was actually there cared about what happened.

    I am anti social while riding anyways, I havent met a singlerider in stowe that was able to keep up with going up/down/across. I have rode with alot of people, I really wish I could find someone who was faster than me but I use strava to push myself. I easily have claimed most segments in stowe, I have actually tried for. Really the competion is myself and I am ok with that. Hang me out to dry I guess for wanting to go faster. Anytime I ride with others its does slow me down, and sometimes I am ok with that. I wouldnt have stopped for those 2 whether they were guys/girls or whatever I just wanted to ride.

    With that said since you and hardy are so butt hurt by me, why not try to take those KOMs. You obviously care or you wouldnt have started this thread Hardy obviously cares or he wouldnt say anything about it to me. I honestly do think your egos could take not being beat by "streachypants".
    You remember when you talked **** about my riding on Kimmer's filmed from POV, which is funny. The time is 8:00 minutes which still isnt not fast as a local Pro roadie here but good enough for 3rd. Try to beat it, because I am pretty sure you(DaveVT) can not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    I wouldnt have stopped for those 2 whether they were guys/girls or whatever I just wanted to ride.
    Sounds like you'd ride by your grandma if she was dying in a ditch.
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    if grandma was standing by the side of the trail and didnt ask for help sure Id ride by her.

    Did you actually read what happened? They were fine, they looked fine, and they actually did not care. If one of them was in a ditch that changes things I would have stopped for them. For you? Untill you stop being an anonymous poster no chance in hell. Who are you snowdrifter?

    My name is Josh Matta and I am not hiding behind a screenname or saying **** I wouldnt say to anyone here in person just because noone knows who I am. So who are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    if grandma was standing by the side of the trail and didnt ask for help sure Id ride by her.

    Did you actually read what happened? They were fine, they looked fine, and they actually did not care. If one of them was in a ditch that changes things I would have stopped for them. For you? Untill you stop being an anonymous poster no chance in hell. Who are you snowdrifter?

    My name is Josh Matta and I am not hiding behind a screenname or saying **** I wouldnt say to anyone here in person just because noone knows who I am. So who are you?
    I'm a guy who pulls off the trail for complete strangers, says hi, asks if everything is OK, offers up directions to people in need, mechanical help if needed. I try to spread good vibes on the trail.

    Yeah, I read what happened from your account, doesn't mean that's actually what happened. I could careless, don't know you or the female. You and DaveVT are entertaining, thank you.
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    Hey now where did that picture go for everyone here to creep upon?

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    I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    I rest my case.
    Good thing you are not a lawyer. "The jury finds for the defendant".

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    I use Strava and I like it. But, I believe in Karma too. For every time you let Strava get in the way of trail etiquette the trail gods will bestow upon you one "over the handlebars."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    if grandma was standing by the side of the trail and didnt ask for help sure Id ride by her.

    Did you actually read what happened? They were fine, they looked fine, and they actually did not care. If one of them was in a ditch that changes things I would have stopped for them. For you? Untill you stop being an anonymous poster no chance in hell. Who are you snowdrifter?

    My name is Josh Matta and I am not hiding behind a screenname or saying **** I wouldnt say to anyone here in person just because noone knows who I am. So who are you?
    So that massive contusion on her hip must mean she was fine. Because massive contusions just happen when someone has a casual oopsie...not when they stack up hard enough to make them pause for a moment at the edge of the trail to take an inventory, wondering weather or not they can continue their ride. Your behavior left enough of an impression on her for her to make a point of it to her boyfriend...who then called you out on it..then to mention it to me the next day at work...so maybe, just maybe they don't feel the need to talk to you about it because it's fairly obvious that you were so concerned with your strava time that you failed to notice a person in some distress standing next to the trail. Sounds like alot of folks like using strava, but try not to let it be the reason they ride. Not sure why Eric feels it so nessecary to defend you, but it's aweful cute.
    BTW, my name is Dave Packie...we were supposed to race, but you didn't show up...remember that?

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    I dont get the point of this you bunch of e-thugs.
    Theres no rule he needs to stop for people standing on the side of a trail. Im no doctor but at a glance can you see this massive contusion?

    But more importantly, who cares, she can take care of herself and needs to ask for help when she needs it.

    If I'm injured and need help, damn right I'm stopping some one to ask for help. I also fall alot which is always funny

    Oh I almost forgot the post important thing. And this is a completely 100% serious question.

    Do people actually yell "STRAVA" on the trail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchyjesus View Post
    Why are girls who ride bikes referred to as Chicks or Hotties? Can't they just be females?
    And we wonder why there aren't more women riding bikes....

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    Wooooooo! Internet!!!!!!! Yeeeeeeaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

    There are jerks on bikes. There are jerks on foot. There are jerks on horses. There are jerks with their dogs. And there are jerks on this forum. They're all losers because they're jerks.

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    gonna need some popcorn
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    I havent met a singlerider in stowe that was able to keep up with going up/down/across. I have rode with alot of people, I really wish I could find someone who was faster than me but I use strava to push myself. I easily have claimed most segments in stowe, I have actually tried for. Really the competion is myself and I am ok with that. Hang me out to dry I guess for wanting to go faster. Anytime I ride with others its does slow me down, and sometimes I am ok with that. I wouldnt have stopped for those 2 whether they were guys/girls or whatever I just wanted to ride.
    quoted for awesomeness

    You remember when you talked **** about my riding on Kimmer's filmed from POV, which is funny. The time is 8:00 minutes which still isnt not fast as a local Pro roadie here but good enough for 3rd. Try to beat it, because I am pretty sure you(DaveVT) can not.
    you mean the faster Josh in Stowe?

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    This has been entertaining but seems to be losing steam..... Guess I will have to go back and watch politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twostowe View Post
    quoted for awesomeness



    you mean the faster Josh in Stowe?
    yeah if your (Josh) Dillon I would honestly love to have my legs ripped off by you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    yeah if your (Josh) Dillon I would honestly love to have my legs ripped off by you.
    ^We're still talking about biking right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    ^We're still talking about biking right?
    umm what else would we be talking about.

    Dillon is one of the faster guys around here, best wa to get faster is to ride with faster people. He is the only person locally that appears to be that way. I have yet to meet him though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    umm what else would we be talking about.

    Dillon is one of the faster guys around here, best wa to get faster is to ride with faster people. He is the only person locally that appears to be that way. I have yet to meet him though.
    Being a fast pedaler on your bike is one small aspect of riding. It's really hard to tell if you really place yourself on so high a pedestal, or are just #ucking around. Between this and your FB posts, I really hope you're #ucking around...in which case.....Hilarious! Good luck with your liason. I hope he rips your legs off for you.

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    I do not believe manners (or etiquette) and strava belong in the same sentence. I wish they could. I hate to have such a one sided view on the manner, but strava truly is dividing the cycling community. I completely understand logging your rides and wanting to know how fast you've cleared a section that you have been working on, but for the life of me, I cannot understand why people want to cyber compete...

    Just a heads up, if you're "strava-ing" and you come barreling around a turn and take me out, or I see you fail to yield to someone and run them off the trail becausing you're trying to be KOM, you better hope that lycra really does make you faster than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangaroo View Post
    I do not believe manners (or etiquette) and strava belong in the same sentence. I wish they could. I hate to have such a one sided view on the manner, but strava truly is dividing the cycling community. I completely understand logging your rides and wanting to know how fast you've cleared a section that you have been working on, but for the life of me, I cannot understand why people want to cyber compete...

    Just a heads up, if you're "strava-ing" and you come barreling around a turn and take me out, or I see you fail to yield to someone and run them off the trail becausing you're trying to be KOM, you better hope that lycra really does make you faster than me.
    again who is barreling into anyone? did you read what actually happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    Being a fast pedaler on your bike is one small aspect of riding. It's really hard to tell if you really place yourself on so high a pedestal, or are just #ucking around. Between this and your FB posts, I really hope you're #ucking around...in which case.....Hilarious! Good luck with your liason. I hope he rips your legs off for you.
    So if pedaling is small aspect of Riding then it should be easy for you to go beat some of my times, or maybe I am better than you think. I currently have the fastest Bear's Run and some other well know DHs I am the fastest on strava. Maybe your faster, but I doubt it. Id loan my GPS to you, if you wanted to try. all you need is my GPS or a smart phone. Its that easy. I honestly think your ego couldnt take not being able to beat streachy pants.

    I am not ****ing around, I truly want to be unbeatable someday.

    FYI Make no mistake, I feel your one of the most skill riders around here, but I also feel I am MUCH faster than you even on some of the downs. Its just a matter of having more wattage which I have in spades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    again who is barreling into anyone? did you read what actually happened?
    I'm speaking for my own account. I'm not in this shouting match of what did or didn't occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    So if pedaling is small aspect of Riding then it should be easy for you to go beat some of my times, or maybe I am better than you think. I currently have the fastest Bear's Run and some other well know DHs I am the fastest on strava. Maybe your faster, but I doubt it. Id loan my GPS to you, if you wanted to try. all you need is my GPS or a smart phone. Its that easy. I honestly think your ego couldnt take not being able to beat streachy pants.

    I am not ****ing around, I truly want to be unbeatable someday.

    FYI Make no mistake, I feel your one of the most skill riders around here, but I also feel I am MUCH faster than you even on some of the downs. Its just a matter of having more wattage which I have in spades.
    Forgive me for interrupting this heart-felt discussion, but I'd like to make an observation. It seems that the main issue here is that you are racing among and against people who don't care about racing. If you want to prove yourself, there are plenty of race events in and around Vermont, where you will no longer be the "big fish in the little pond". In fact, I'd be willing to wager that you will probably get your clock cleaned by a number of folks who could care less about who holds "KOM" on 3 trails in Stowe. Also, when you race against racers at a real race, it's more appropriate and even encouraged to redline around folks on narrow trails. When people are out riding socially, this is interpreted as antagonistic behavior - at a race, it's par for the course. Just a suggestion from someone who raced for years as an outlet for his own competitiveness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scharny View Post
    Forgive me for interrupting this heart-felt discussion, but I'd like to make an observation. It seems that the main issue here is that you are racing among and against people who don't care about racing. If you want to prove yourself, there are plenty of race events in and around Vermont, where you will no longer be the "big fish in the little pond". In fact, I'd be willing to wager that you will probably get your clock cleaned by a number of folks who could care less about who holds "KOM" on 3 trails in Stowe. Also, when you race against racers at a real race, it's more appropriate and even encouraged to redline around folks on narrow trails. When people are out riding socially, this is interpreted as antagonistic behavior - at a race, it's par for the course. Just a suggestion from someone who raced for years as an outlet for his own competitiveness.


    I agree I actually do race Cat 1 MTB/and Cat 2 Cross. I am far from the fastest in Cat 1, I am mid pack at best... I know I am slow compared to those guys.

    but its been hard to find faster riders locally to ride with. I am only calling out DaveVT since if he wants to find out who is faster he can. I honestly could careless about the KOMs, notice it wasn t me that started this thread.

    I also should say that I am not redlining around folks, I am usually riding when there is noone else around (IE sunday at 6 pm....) and stowe is such a huge trail system I rarely see people. Also when I group ride I generally near the back because trying to "race" people in a group ride IMO is an ******* move.

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    I like Strava for keeping tabs on my rides, and also friendly competition with my buddies. I KNOW my KOMS could be destroyed on any given day, buts its fun to get them non the less!

    I agree with Scharny. Your racing against people who may or may not have been actually trying for a KOM. In fact most of the "fast guys" i know don't even use Strava. I think you should put your cred. on the line and do some races. The Highland Enduro perhaps? Maybe the race over in Burke?
    Getting a KOM on a 1/25 mile hill is much different than placing well in the Expert or Elite category in a 20 mile race......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdc View Post
    I like Strava for keeping tabs on my rides, and also friendly competition with my buddies. I KNOW my KOMS could be destroyed on any given day, buts its fun to get them non the less!

    I agree with Scharny. Your racing against people who may or may not have been actually trying for a KOM. In fact most of the "fast guys" i know don't even use Strava. I think you should put your cred. on the line and do some races. The Highland Enduro perhaps? Maybe the race over in Burke?
    Getting a KOM on a 1/25 mile hill is much different than placing well in the Expert or Elite category in a 20 mile race......


    agreed go back and read my post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    hey so lets first start with Jon S. and take on what happened.

    "So I asked xxxx about the on trail "incident" (keep in mind she never even mentioned it to me, that's how insignificant it was to her). She considered the whole thing a non-issue, and never even thought meeting up with you on the trail was something that could turn into one... So don't sweat it at all (not that you were), all is well in the REAL world smile"

    I was the ******bag XC racer or whatever you guys want to call me. I also be known as streachy pants because certain homophoic posters and riders local to stowe must be very turned on by the site of me in spandex. I truly apologize that my huge buldging thighs somehow turn you on.

    So was coming down hardy's haul and saw Caitrin(girl pictured) and xxxxxxx both riders I know and I would considers friends on the side of trail. I said "hey guys" , they warned about slippery bridge, I replied "thanks, I got it". I had no idea why they were on the side or which way they were going but I just kept on going. I get to the bottom turned around and met up with them and talked about the upcoming group ride. Niether said anything to me about me passing them and I apologized for not stopping but figured everything was ok, and it was.

    Noone that was actually there cared about what happened.

    I am anti social while riding anyways, I havent met a singlerider in stowe that was able to keep up with going up/down/across. I have rode with alot of people, I really wish I could find someone who was faster than me but I use strava to push myself. I easily have claimed most segments in stowe, I have actually tried for. Really the competion is myself and I am ok with that. Hang me out to dry I guess for wanting to go faster. Anytime I ride with others its does slow me down, and sometimes I am ok with that. I wouldnt have stopped for those 2 whether they were guys/girls or whatever I just wanted to ride.

    With that said since you and hardy are so butt hurt by me, why not try to take those KOMs. You obviously care or you wouldnt have started this thread Hardy obviously cares or he wouldnt say anything about it to me. I honestly do think your egos could take not being beat by "streachypants".
    You remember when you talked **** about my riding on Kimmer's filmed from POV, which is funny. The time is 8:00 minutes which still isnt not fast as a local Pro roadie here but good enough for 3rd. Try to beat it, because I am pretty sure you(DaveVT) can not.
    Can't figure out why you can't find anyone to ride with. I've been outclimbed by girls, 14 year olds, 50 year old. Who Cares? No one. That's the answer. No one but you....and you care way...WAY too much. How about smooth? How about style? How about riding the most technical line. How about efficient? How about chill and fun? Lots of ways to ride a bike hombre. As fast as possible get's old pretty quick. And alot of times, slower is smoother. And smooth is style. IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    So if pedaling is small aspect of Riding then it should be easy for you to go beat some of my times, or maybe I am better than you think. I currently have the fastest Bear's Run and some other well know DHs I am the fastest on strava. Maybe your faster, but I doubt it. Id loan my GPS to you, if you wanted to try. all you need is my GPS or a smart phone. Its that easy. I honestly think your ego couldnt take not being able to beat streachy pants.

    I am not ****ing around, I truly want to be unbeatable someday.

    FYI Make no mistake, I feel your one of the most skill riders around here, but I also feel I am MUCH faster than you even on some of the downs. Its just a matter of having more wattage which I have in spades.
    Since you mentioned Bear's trail, here's what I think about when i ride it. I hit the berm fast so I don't have to pedal to make the first small double...then make sure i get the sweet stump jib that the bear used to sit on with my back tire....then pump the next double and corner so i can hit the huge boost off the tree roots that you likely don't even recoginze as a line....and gap the jog in the trail and land in the straightaway.....without pedaling. Then there's a small rock planted on the oustside of the tread that you can boost off of and gap into a depression and get a wicked pump out of. All the way down the trail I have airs over root beds and corners I need to rail fast to make airs....without pedaling. See, on my one speed, I have spun out of gear at like 12 mph....so while you're pedaling like a monkey punching, thinking about watts....I'm pumping and jumping, jibbing $#!T, nose manualing, manualing, and in general, trying to be smooth and use the energy the trail is giving my to maintain momentum without having to use my pedaling muscles...because on my one speed, anytime I can get a pump and add to my forward momentum, or air something that would otherwise rob me of forward momentum, I am saving my legs. I ride to not pedal and not brake as much as possible. Sometimes it means I noodle thru sections very slow....other times it means I carry crazy speed and jump $#!t....but either way I am doing my thing...not competeing with some website. Expression. Creativity. A wide variety of skills including trials, pumptrack, DJs, and XC...with a little street thrown in, although I wish I had more Street style...BMXers are the real KOMs in my opinion. Now, I'm a few beers deep so forgive the ramble....but maybe you get it, or what it is to me...not just mashing pedals trying to prove me vs. anyone. Just smooth, easy style, and fun. That's my goal on a MTB. Even buzzed I think I have less typos then you too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    Since you mentioned Bear's trail, here's what I think about when i ride it. I hit the berm fast so I don't have to pedal to make the first small double...then make sure i get the sweet stump jib that the bear used to sit on with my back tire....then pump the next double and corner so i can hit the huge boost off the tree roots that you likely don't even recoginze as a line....and gap the jog in the trail and land in the straightaway.....without pedaling. Then there's a small rock planted on the oustside of the tread that you can boost off of and gap into a depression and get a wicked pump out of. All the way down the trail I have airs over root beds and corners I need to rail fast to make airs....without pedaling. See, on my one speed, I have spun out of gear at like 12 mph....so while you're pedaling like a monkey punching, thinking about watts....I'm pumping and jumping, jibbing $#!T, nose manualing, manualing, and in general, trying to be smooth and use the energy the trail is giving my to maintain momentum without having to use my pedaling muscles...because on my one speed, anytime I can get a pump and add to my forward momentum, or air something that would otherwise rob me of forward momentum, I am saving my legs. I ride to not pedal and not brake as much as possible. Sometimes it means I noodle thru sections very slow....other times it means I carry crazy speed and jump $#!t....but either way I am doing my thing...not competeing with some website. Expression. Creativity. A wide variety of skills including trials, pumptrack, DJs, and XC...with a little street thrown in, although I wish I had more Street style...BMXers are the real KOMs in my opinion. Now, I'm a few beers deep so forgive the ramble....but maybe you get it, or what it is to me...not just mashing pedals trying to prove me vs. anyone. Just smooth, easy style, and fun. That's my goal on a MTB. Even buzzed I think I have less typos then you too!

    You missed the cut the corner to gap where the tree roots left a huge hole that is easily jumpable.

    well the thing we can find out what is faster down bears my mix of Ex BMXer pumping, plus XC style hammerfest, or your singlespeed soul riding. the average speed for a fast run down bears run is slightly less than 14mph so I do not know why your singlespeed should be a problem. I mean you know it that well you should be able to easily beat me.......

    You not racing a website, your racing me. You can do it anytime you want.

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    "Hotties" and "chicks" work just fine for me. Don't know why people get so upset over the terms.

    I'd love to hear her version of this story..LOL. Sounds like you two are the only ones still upset and she's long over it. Any chance she's on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    You missed the cut the corner to gap where the tree roots left a huge hole that is easily jumpable.

    well the thing we can find out what is faster down bears my mix of Ex BMXer pumping, plus XC style hammerfest, or your singlespeed soul riding. the average speed for a fast run down bears run is slightly less than 14mph so I do not know why your singlespeed should be a problem. I mean you know it that well you should be able to easily beat me.......

    You not racing a website, your racing me. You can do it anytime you want.
    OK. Waterbury. 6 A.M. tomorrow. You gonna show up this time?

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    I miss the late 90's , scene was was sooooooo relaxed
    This thread may be a bit of a scene, but it's not the scene.
    I can barely get my mouth around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    OK. Waterbury. 6 A.M. tomorrow. You gonna show up this time?
    Isn't it still dark at 6 A.M. ... in Vermont ... this time of year?

    I don't often read threads in the NE Forums (where 3 states are lumped into one) but when I do, it's for entertaining sh!t like this. Stay smarmy my friends.
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    Is this thread for real??!!

    Embarrassed my state is is lumped in with VT now. Bet the hotties are impressed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    OK. Waterbury. 6 A.M. tomorrow. You gonna show up this time?

    no i ****ing hate early morning and you have huge advantage at Waterbury, since I have ridden there like 6 times in the past 2 years.

    You do not get to name a time and place and then compalin when I do not show up.

    Its easy enough to turn on your smart phone and see if your faster than me, any time of day even at 6am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YETI_NH View Post
    Is this thread for real??!!

    Embarrassed my state is is lumped in with VT now. Bet the hotties are impressed!
    Not for me. Mostly a joke...apparently Jash Matta's post are 100 percent for real. I thought he was just messin around too, but he says he is aiming to be unbeatable one day....not sure anyone else cares. Personally, I find him to be hilarious. Wish he wouldn't be such an A-Hole out on the trails while he races for his strava KING OF THE MOUNTAIN status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    no i ****ing hate early morning and you have huge advantage at Waterbury, since I have ridden there like 6 times in the past 2 years.

    You do not get to name a time and place and then compalin when I do not show up.

    Its easy enough to turn on your smart phone and see if your faster than me, any time of day even at 6am.
    Don't have a smart phone. Tomorrow at 8 A.M. Waterbury!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Isn't it still dark at 6 A.M. ... in Vermont ... this time of year?

    I don't often read threads in the NE Forums (where 3 states are lumped into one) but when I do, it's for entertaining sh!t like this. Stay smarmy my friends.
    SHHH! Trying to get him to stand in a parking lot in the dark for a race that won't happen!

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    This is sort of funny. I'm meeting a guy at Waterbury at 8am to buy a Minewt.

    Maybe I'll get to see Dave and Josh's no-handed sword fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzz541 View Post
    This is sort of funny. I'm meeting a guy at Waterbury at 8am to buy a Minewt.

    Maybe I'll get to see Dave and Josh's no-handed sword fight.
    Oh geez, was that THIS morning? Just sitting down to pancakes with my boy. Guess I lose.

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    I thought all the Strava-******'s were roadies. Apparently their in the woods,too. Making a big stink about a mtb-strava-******'s ******-baggery is pretty ******y too.
    If someone needs to keep track of their fastest times they can do it without strava,thus un-******-ing themselves.

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    I don't know about u guys, but I don't want to be the fastest guy out there. I want to be the guy who takes the gnarliest line not the fastest(easier) lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer13 View Post
    i don't know about u guys, but i don't want to be the fastest guy out there. I want to be the guy who takes the gnarliest line not the fastest(easier) lines.
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    He's on the big ring. wocka wocka
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    Quote Originally Posted by tangaroo View Post

    Just a heads up, if you're "strava-ing" and you come barreling around a turn and take me out, or I see you fail to yield to someone and run them off the trail becausing you're trying to be KOM, you better hope that lycra really does make you faster than me.
    Here is the thing that gets me. This could happen before Strava. Riding hard is riding hard. Period. WTF is the difference?
    I am immune to your disdain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severum View Post
    Doushbags were doushbags before Strava.
    Right. Guys that wouldn't stop before, won't stop now. Guys that did not wave before, won't wave now. I think Strava is going to be an easy scapegoat for folks to say "that guy is a dick...must be going for a KOM."
    Guys on our Thursday night group, that do not download tracks, are now like "dude, you going for a KOM?" No dude, we always rode this trail as hard as we can. Nothing has changed except your attitude.
    If I am on a training ride and do not stop, that is my choice. If you do not stop, that is your choice. Passing judgement sucks.
    I am immune to your disdain.

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    Is it bad etiquette for me to barrel through an intersection full of peoole and/or hotties without slowing down while yelling, "STRAAVAAAH!" even if I'm not using strava?

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    If a mime is riding his MTB as fast as he can through a group of people on the trail, can he think about Strava without stopping, waving, smiling, or speaking (oops, guess he wouldn't be a mime if he did that, never mind that one)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfab25 View Post
    If I am on a training ride and do not stop, that is my choice. If you do not stop, that is your choice. Passing judgement sucks.
    You are not passing judgement about passing judgement are you?
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    Scott O,I will now be yelling STRAVA!! anytime I come upon other riders even tho I don't use strava.
    Either that or "Not now Chief,I'm on the f*ckin' strava".

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfab25 View Post
    Here is the thing that gets me. This could happen before Strava. Riding hard is riding hard. Period. WTF is the difference?
    I agree that people have been riding as hard as they can wayyy before STRAVA. But there is a fine line between riding hard/pushing limits and being a ****** bag. Let me break it down for you...

    Riding hard/pushing limits:
    - Riding as hard as you can, but knowing the possibility that there may be someone around the next blind turn. Therefore, you decide to take the turn at a slower pace than you would in a race, because you are not in a race.
    - Someone you know, or someone random, waves or acknowledges your presence (since the biking community tries to be friendly) so you wave or acknowledge them as well. But, since you are in crank mode, the wave is all they get. People will understand, "oh, that guy is going hard, good for him"

    Being a ****** bag:
    - Riding as hard as you can and assuming that everyone ahead of you should get out of the way because you are in an electronic race online and all the recreational bikers are of lesser importance than you are.
    - Someone you know, or someone random, waves or acknowledges your presence (since the biking community tries to be friendly) but you realize that if you lift your hand off of your grip you will lose .00056 secs off your strava time, so you keep focus, because you know you are of a higher importance than they are. Again, people will understand, "oh, that guy is a ****** bag, good for him"

    Just the other day I was riding Brown County and I blew a side wall on my tubeless tires. Luckily I had a tube with me, but the spot I was at was a steep hill and the only flat place to work on it was on the trail. Several people passed by, stopped and asked if I needed anything. I told them no thanks my buddy and I will get right off the trail once I finish. Then one guy, all lycra-ed out in team sponsored attire comes by and yells get the f@%* off the trail and picked his bike up and RAN PASSED US!!!! I repeat HE RAN PASSED US. Now I don't know if he was using strava or not, but that is ridiculous.

    My point is, there is a time and place for racing focus and attitude, and that is during an actual race. Believe it or not, biking is recreational and 98% of the trails that you ride or ever will ride are for recreational purposes and race purposes on race days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fliernh View Post
    You are not passing judgement about passing judgement are you?
    Sure am! Are you passing judgement about my passing judgement on passing judgement? Lol.
    I am immune to your disdain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangaroo View Post
    I agree that people have been riding as hard as they can wayyy before STRAVA. But there is a fine line between riding hard/pushing limits and being a ****** bag. Let me break it down for you...

    Riding hard/pushing limits:
    - Riding as hard as you can, but knowing the possibility that there may be someone around the next blind turn. Therefore, you decide to take the turn at a slower pace than you would in a race, because you are not in a race.
    - Someone you know, or someone random, waves or acknowledges your presence (since the biking community tries to be friendly) so you wave or acknowledge them as well. But, since you are in crank mode, the wave is all they get. People will understand, "oh, that guy is going hard, good for him"

    Being a ****** bag:
    - Riding as hard as you can and assuming that everyone ahead of you should get out of the way because you are in an electronic race online and all the recreational bikers are of lesser importance than you are.
    - Someone you know, or someone random, waves or acknowledges your presence (since the biking community tries to be friendly) but you realize that if you lift your hand off of your grip you will lose .00056 secs off your strava time, so you keep focus, because you know you are of a higher importance than they are. Again, people will understand, "oh, that guy is a ****** bag, good for him"

    Just the other day I was riding Brown County and I blew a side wall on my tubeless tires. Luckily I had a tube with me, but the spot I was at was a steep hill and the only flat place to work on it was on the trail. Several people passed by, stopped and asked if I needed anything. I told them no thanks my buddy and I will get right off the trail once I finish. Then one guy, all lycra-ed out in team sponsored attire comes by and yells get the f@%* off the trail and picked his bike up and RAN PASSED US!!!! I repeat HE RAN PASSED US. Now I don't know if he was using strava or not, but that is ridiculous.

    My point is, there is a time and place for racing focus and attitude, and that is during an actual race. Believe it or not, biking is recreational and 98% of the trails that you ride or ever will ride are for recreational purposes and race purposes on race days.
    Right. I think you kinda made my point that dudes will not ride the manner you prefer WITH or WITHOUT Strava. Not waving is a choice. Safe speed is a perception.

    Let the guy run. That is his thing. Not your thing. Maybe you can make him ride like you do. Maybe not. One thing is for certain, a lot of energy will be wasted trying to get him to change and adopt your opinions and philosophies. Then again...maybe not. Maybe he will bend over and accept what you are forcing on him with ease.
    I am immune to your disdain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfab25 View Post
    Sure am! Are you passing judgement about my passing judgement on passing judgement? Lol.
    No, not me, huh uh, no sirree. I would never pass judgement about you passing judgement about passing judgement. You're not passing judgement about my not passing judgement are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fliernh View Post
    No, not me, huh uh, no sirree. I would never pass judgement about you passing judgement about passing judgement. You're not passing judgement about my not passing judgement are you?
    I'm not. Do as you wish.
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    i just read this whole thread....did they ever race?
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    Apparently anti-mountain bike groups are also using Strava. This can't go well no matter how you slice it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radair View Post
    Apparently anti-mountain bike groups are also using Strava. This can't go well no matter how you slice it.

    Fells bike racing - YouTube
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    No longer available - what was that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fliernh View Post
    If a mime is riding his MTB as fast as he can through a group of people on the trail, can he think about Strava without stopping, waving, smiling, or speaking (oops, guess he wouldn't be a mime if he did that, never mind that one)?
    Not without some ashhole judging him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by epic View Post
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    Whining *****es in Boston claiming strava has made multi use trails at "Fells" into a "race track" and bikes ruin the trails, and the city is doing nothing about it, bunch of ******** for sure, it was trying to get people pissed off about mountain biking. Last I saw, the video had 90 dislikes and one like, LMAO, and the comments were all well though out comments in support of mountain bikers, pointing out how MTBers make the trails AND maintain them. It was pretty awesome really.

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