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    Strava vs. Manners

    Recently I was told of a incident about a single 20 something MTBer in the area out on his cyber-race on his local loop coming upon 2 hot MTBer women, one of which had just had a nasty spill. While she was picking up her bike, trying to evaluate her well being, this self-proclaimed elitest MTBer comes hammering up on the scene of the incident. The dude refused to stop....mumbled something about strava, and hammered by. WTF?
    Is strava really that important?
    Females are too few and far between on our MTB trails.....let alone hot ones....that might need assistance...."?"
    Dudes....I would hope that Strava has not replaced good company with members of the opposite sex on these chilly fall evenings. And while you may spend considerable time spanking it over your latest, fastest lap time on your backyard trail...a little one on one human interaction surely out-rates your bike centric self pleasuring....right? Am I alone on this or is Strava REALLY that good?
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    Hot MTB chicks over strava anyday.
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    +2 on Hot MTBR chicks, ahemmm... I mean females. sorry Jesus.

    * pictures or it didn't happen.
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    That's not how I heard it happened at all. Maybe you should just mind your own instead of continuing to fixate on "stretchypants".
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    It happened. I heard the story from the hottie's mouth.
    Curious if this strava thing was an epidemic....or just an isolated case. Given the quantity of priceless content coming over the facebook, I think I let alot slide without comment. AND, he wears baggies now for photo shoots, doesn't he. Maybe with a little more public exposure we can get him to curb his Strava habit...just a touch.

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    Again, that's not how I heard it. Not from "the hottie" (I don't know why you are objectifying her like that), her boyfriend or from "stretchypants". I was talking to a friend of yours the other day who was asking me if I knew stretchypants. He asked because he was trying to understand your obsession with him. He said on the last ride with you, you couldn't do anything but talk about stretchypants and the internet. What's the deal? He's a good dude, and so are you, there doesn't need to be any hate.

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    I'm with Dave. Any chick (hottie or not) deserves some courtesy out on the trails. I'm no fan of DBAG XC guys hammering by like they are a Lance Armstrong. I don't care how strong of a rider you think you are. We're supposed to be a community here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by epic View Post
    Again, that's not how I heard it. Not from "the hottie" (I don't know why you are objectifying her like that), her boyfriend or from "stretchypants". I was talking to a friend of yours the other day who was asking me if I knew stretchypants. He asked because he was trying to understand your obsession with him. He said on the last ride with you, you couldn't do anything but talk about stretchypants and the internet. What's the deal? He's a good dude, and so are you, there doesn't need to be any hate.
    There's no hate. Just amusement. Last ride....christ.....I haven't ridden with anyone in Months. This really isn't the point of the post....although you are tryint to make it personal between us, the question is....is STRAVA that important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    ...the question is....is STRAVA that important.
    No, I don't think so. I understand the fun of "racing" against yourself and/or your buddies and being the temporary KOM, but not to the point of being anti-social, shortcutting corners, or flying by nice looking women.

    I'd like to put Strava-free zone status on a couple of local trails to keep some a-hole from slamming into uphill traffic.

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    Why are girls who ride bikes referred to as Chicks or Hotties? Can't they just be females?

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    Quote Originally Posted by radair View Post
    I'd like to put Strava-free zone status on a couple of local trails to keep some a-hole from slamming into uphill traffic.
    You can flag segments in strava as dangerous, the segment will no longer keep results. Another user might create the segment again, but you can keep flagging.

    * one problem, oce you join strava, you might get the bug yourself
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    Just learned about STRAVA, glad that I'm not an XC guy so I don't have to spend time worrying about this.

    And as for trail courtesy, who cares what sex you are. Dbags that stand and stop in the middle of trails are Dbags, Dbags who run you off the trail are Dbags. You can be a Dbag to guys, and you can be a Dbag to girls, and anyone can be a Dbag, but nobody should.
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    Yeah those XC guys with no courtesy I sometimes dont move over. If they want to beef, Im for it no problem either on the trail or in the parking lot. Most are cool though at least when I ride so I show them courtesy and move over for them.

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    No one should be a DBAG to any rider. Girl or guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itchyjesus View Post
    Why are girls who ride bikes referred to as Chicks or Hotties? Can't they just be females?
    Because objectification is sometimes the quickest means of communicating a point. If they were ugly, we wouldn't mention them.

    I ride in Montana de Oro a good deal and there are plenty of chumps using strava. None of them are the fastest. It's the guys who don't try to prove anything because they already know what's up that are the quick ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchyjesus View Post
    Why are girls who ride bikes referred to as Chicks or Hotties? Can't they just be females?
    I think mudbunnies are the correct term..

    As for the strava part, how long before someone teaches his bulldog that someone yelling strava is an invitation to attack? Think of it as a community service, anyone in such a hurry that he has to yell strava and disregard the well being of others can probably use the adrenaline rush from being chased by an angry dog to set a new KOM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cman8 View Post
    If they want to beef, Im for it no problem either on the trail or in the parking lot..
    tough guy alert
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    The objectification is just proof that the junkonomic cut out saddles work, and that now libidos are at full charge on the trails
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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    tough guy alert
    Just not afraid to scrap if need be. Especially with a DBAG who thinks the trails are only theirs. But like I said most people where I ride at least are courteous. Probably like 99.9%

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    Quote Originally Posted by cman8 View Post
    Just not afraid to scrap if need be. Especially with a DBAG who thinks the trails are only theirs. But like I said most people where I ride at least are courteous. Probably like 99.9%
    Anyone who will willingly fight instead of seek conflict resolution is a DBAG, 100% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    Anyone who will willingly fight instead of seek conflict resolution is a DBAG, 100% of the time.
    right.
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    wow, got to be the dumbest thread ever...
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    What's Strava?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockpharmer View Post
    What's Strava?
    It's an online penis size meter so you can compare yourself with your friends and see whose the biggest
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlockinz View Post
    it's an online penis size meter so you can compare yourself with your friends and see whose the biggest
    lol

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    If someone finds "chicks" as an offensive term in a post that was intended to bring a bit a levity to the table, then I appologize. I find all Women who are outdoors, on a bike, riding singletrack attractive, so I'll refer to them as "hotties" as a term of respect. Folks that are offended by the use of the term here on MTBR probably go through life with their trowsers in a bunch anyway. Feel free to call me a Dude...which orginally was a slang term for male genitalia. I like a bit of competition once in a while. Certain loops I see as good test pieces for myself. I've tried to get some friendly competition going on the waterbury loop. But turning ever trail into a race course on every ride seems to be resulting in a lost sense of community and basic manners, at least around here. Curious if others have run into this shift in priciple...apparently yes. Too much competition takes the fun out of things IMO, and it's a shame we all may be subjected to that 'tude while trying to avoid it out in the BC.

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    When i first started using Strava I certainly hauled @$$ when it was safe and tried to get great times, but that never made me a disrespectful/dangerous strava rider. after about two weeks of using it I could care less about times and sometimes dont even ride with it on. I only find it beneficial to help track my mileage, average speed, and where I have riden, and for the most part they are inaccurate anyways, so its just a basic guideline for my persformance. It was fun for all of two weeks. That being said I have been riding for over 15 years and there were jerks on the trails back before smartphones and strava.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlockinz View Post
    It's an online penis size meter so you can compare yourself with your friends and see whose the biggest
    Now that is funny right there! Nice one,
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    hey so lets first start with Jon S. and take on what happened.

    "So I asked xxxx about the on trail "incident" (keep in mind she never even mentioned it to me, that's how insignificant it was to her). She considered the whole thing a non-issue, and never even thought meeting up with you on the trail was something that could turn into one... So don't sweat it at all (not that you were), all is well in the REAL world smile"

    I was the ******bag XC racer or whatever you guys want to call me. I also be known as streachy pants because certain homophoic posters and riders local to stowe must be very turned on by the site of me in spandex. I truly apologize that my huge buldging thighs somehow turn you on.

    So was coming down hardy's haul and saw Caitrin(girl pictured) and xxxxxxx both riders I know and I would considers friends on the side of trail. I said "hey guys" , they warned about slippery bridge, I replied "thanks, I got it". I had no idea why they were on the side or which way they were going but I just kept on going. I get to the bottom turned around and met up with them and talked about the upcoming group ride. Niether said anything to me about me passing them and I apologized for not stopping but figured everything was ok, and it was.

    Noone that was actually there cared about what happened.

    I am anti social while riding anyways, I havent met a singlerider in stowe that was able to keep up with going up/down/across. I have rode with alot of people, I really wish I could find someone who was faster than me but I use strava to push myself. I easily have claimed most segments in stowe, I have actually tried for. Really the competion is myself and I am ok with that. Hang me out to dry I guess for wanting to go faster. Anytime I ride with others its does slow me down, and sometimes I am ok with that. I wouldnt have stopped for those 2 whether they were guys/girls or whatever I just wanted to ride.

    With that said since you and hardy are so butt hurt by me, why not try to take those KOMs. You obviously care or you wouldnt have started this thread Hardy obviously cares or he wouldnt say anything about it to me. I honestly do think your egos could take not being beat by "streachypants".
    You remember when you talked **** about my riding on Kimmer's filmed from POV, which is funny. The time is 8:00 minutes which still isnt not fast as a local Pro roadie here but good enough for 3rd. Try to beat it, because I am pretty sure you(DaveVT) can not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    I wouldnt have stopped for those 2 whether they were guys/girls or whatever I just wanted to ride.
    Sounds like you'd ride by your grandma if she was dying in a ditch.
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    if grandma was standing by the side of the trail and didnt ask for help sure Id ride by her.

    Did you actually read what happened? They were fine, they looked fine, and they actually did not care. If one of them was in a ditch that changes things I would have stopped for them. For you? Untill you stop being an anonymous poster no chance in hell. Who are you snowdrifter?

    My name is Josh Matta and I am not hiding behind a screenname or saying **** I wouldnt say to anyone here in person just because noone knows who I am. So who are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    if grandma was standing by the side of the trail and didnt ask for help sure Id ride by her.

    Did you actually read what happened? They were fine, they looked fine, and they actually did not care. If one of them was in a ditch that changes things I would have stopped for them. For you? Untill you stop being an anonymous poster no chance in hell. Who are you snowdrifter?

    My name is Josh Matta and I am not hiding behind a screenname or saying **** I wouldnt say to anyone here in person just because noone knows who I am. So who are you?
    I'm a guy who pulls off the trail for complete strangers, says hi, asks if everything is OK, offers up directions to people in need, mechanical help if needed. I try to spread good vibes on the trail.

    Yeah, I read what happened from your account, doesn't mean that's actually what happened. I could careless, don't know you or the female. You and DaveVT are entertaining, thank you.
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    Hey now where did that picture go for everyone here to creep upon?

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    I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    I rest my case.
    Good thing you are not a lawyer. "The jury finds for the defendant".

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    I use Strava and I like it. But, I believe in Karma too. For every time you let Strava get in the way of trail etiquette the trail gods will bestow upon you one "over the handlebars."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    if grandma was standing by the side of the trail and didnt ask for help sure Id ride by her.

    Did you actually read what happened? They were fine, they looked fine, and they actually did not care. If one of them was in a ditch that changes things I would have stopped for them. For you? Untill you stop being an anonymous poster no chance in hell. Who are you snowdrifter?

    My name is Josh Matta and I am not hiding behind a screenname or saying **** I wouldnt say to anyone here in person just because noone knows who I am. So who are you?
    So that massive contusion on her hip must mean she was fine. Because massive contusions just happen when someone has a casual oopsie...not when they stack up hard enough to make them pause for a moment at the edge of the trail to take an inventory, wondering weather or not they can continue their ride. Your behavior left enough of an impression on her for her to make a point of it to her boyfriend...who then called you out on it..then to mention it to me the next day at work...so maybe, just maybe they don't feel the need to talk to you about it because it's fairly obvious that you were so concerned with your strava time that you failed to notice a person in some distress standing next to the trail. Sounds like alot of folks like using strava, but try not to let it be the reason they ride. Not sure why Eric feels it so nessecary to defend you, but it's aweful cute.
    BTW, my name is Dave Packie...we were supposed to race, but you didn't show up...remember that?

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    I dont get the point of this you bunch of e-thugs.
    Theres no rule he needs to stop for people standing on the side of a trail. Im no doctor but at a glance can you see this massive contusion?

    But more importantly, who cares, she can take care of herself and needs to ask for help when she needs it.

    If I'm injured and need help, damn right I'm stopping some one to ask for help. I also fall alot which is always funny

    Oh I almost forgot the post important thing. And this is a completely 100% serious question.

    Do people actually yell "STRAVA" on the trail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchyjesus View Post
    Why are girls who ride bikes referred to as Chicks or Hotties? Can't they just be females?
    And we wonder why there aren't more women riding bikes....

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    Wooooooo! Internet!!!!!!! Yeeeeeeaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

    There are jerks on bikes. There are jerks on foot. There are jerks on horses. There are jerks with their dogs. And there are jerks on this forum. They're all losers because they're jerks.

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    I havent met a singlerider in stowe that was able to keep up with going up/down/across. I have rode with alot of people, I really wish I could find someone who was faster than me but I use strava to push myself. I easily have claimed most segments in stowe, I have actually tried for. Really the competion is myself and I am ok with that. Hang me out to dry I guess for wanting to go faster. Anytime I ride with others its does slow me down, and sometimes I am ok with that. I wouldnt have stopped for those 2 whether they were guys/girls or whatever I just wanted to ride.
    quoted for awesomeness

    You remember when you talked **** about my riding on Kimmer's filmed from POV, which is funny. The time is 8:00 minutes which still isnt not fast as a local Pro roadie here but good enough for 3rd. Try to beat it, because I am pretty sure you(DaveVT) can not.
    you mean the faster Josh in Stowe?

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    This has been entertaining but seems to be losing steam..... Guess I will have to go back and watch politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twostowe View Post
    quoted for awesomeness



    you mean the faster Josh in Stowe?
    yeah if your (Josh) Dillon I would honestly love to have my legs ripped off by you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    yeah if your (Josh) Dillon I would honestly love to have my legs ripped off by you.
    ^We're still talking about biking right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    ^We're still talking about biking right?
    umm what else would we be talking about.

    Dillon is one of the faster guys around here, best wa to get faster is to ride with faster people. He is the only person locally that appears to be that way. I have yet to meet him though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    umm what else would we be talking about.

    Dillon is one of the faster guys around here, best wa to get faster is to ride with faster people. He is the only person locally that appears to be that way. I have yet to meet him though.
    Being a fast pedaler on your bike is one small aspect of riding. It's really hard to tell if you really place yourself on so high a pedestal, or are just #ucking around. Between this and your FB posts, I really hope you're #ucking around...in which case.....Hilarious! Good luck with your liason. I hope he rips your legs off for you.

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    I do not believe manners (or etiquette) and strava belong in the same sentence. I wish they could. I hate to have such a one sided view on the manner, but strava truly is dividing the cycling community. I completely understand logging your rides and wanting to know how fast you've cleared a section that you have been working on, but for the life of me, I cannot understand why people want to cyber compete...

    Just a heads up, if you're "strava-ing" and you come barreling around a turn and take me out, or I see you fail to yield to someone and run them off the trail becausing you're trying to be KOM, you better hope that lycra really does make you faster than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangaroo View Post
    I do not believe manners (or etiquette) and strava belong in the same sentence. I wish they could. I hate to have such a one sided view on the manner, but strava truly is dividing the cycling community. I completely understand logging your rides and wanting to know how fast you've cleared a section that you have been working on, but for the life of me, I cannot understand why people want to cyber compete...

    Just a heads up, if you're "strava-ing" and you come barreling around a turn and take me out, or I see you fail to yield to someone and run them off the trail becausing you're trying to be KOM, you better hope that lycra really does make you faster than me.
    again who is barreling into anyone? did you read what actually happened?

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