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    Planning trip to Stowe and Waterburry... trails closed ???

    Hi! We are planning for an unorganized first trip to stowe and a second to waterburry. I read that a lot of people here love Stowe BUT it seems that I can't find a good video of their trails. I only see beginner trails :s

    We loved waterburry last year for its all-mountain spirit, it's not really technical, but so much fun. We bought the local map of Stowe's trails last year, FYI.

    Well, I also read that Stowe and Waterburry are closed? For real? I admit that we also had a lot of rain in Québec too, so it's not that surprising. But it's deceiving :'( Does any locals give me a hint about the trails conditions?

    We are on vacantion right now and we planned to leave on monday. What a deception to read the word ''closed''


    Well, that said, do you have nice vid about Stowe? Thanks guys!

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    Last night we had something resembling a tornado and hurricane put together. I don't know what the actual trail conditions, but they can't be good.

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    this morning ride after the squall was pretty good trail surface lots of trees and branches down though sadly...

    trails are open though...

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    Just go the old-fashioned way and explore the trails (when open). Previewing with video is over-rated. Bring a small saw to help out with any small blowdowns from last night's wind.

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    really nice video! Where is it?

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    Ahh, the wipe out videos..They help while I count the scabs, fresh strawberries, bumps and bruises I've aquired so far this summer. I had to sit and get fat for two months of not riding after bouncing my tailbone off a rock this winter. I should take up fishing, but how much fun would that be? That's some ballsy riding Davevt.

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    That was all Stowe and Waterbury from 10 (yikes) years ago. The stunts are all gone but some of the drops are still around. Actually, some of the freeride stuff is in the proposal for the cady hill town forrest trails...including the big step own. Interesting to see how that unfolds. All the rest of the stuff is typical Stowe, add 10+ miles of fun, benched, flowy, slightly less tech trail since this was filmed...Trapps, Kimmers/Hardy Haul, Piple line, Sterling and the town loops thanks to Hardy Avery (the dude I followed insanely close to) and sustainable trail works. Alot of stuff in this vid was illegal when we were riding it. Thanks to recent efforts by the Stowe Land Trust and tireless efforts by far-too-small-a-group of people in the SMBC. High fives to you peoples.

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    all right then! We gonna leave by saturday morning here at +/- 4ham. Sooo, we expect to be in a trail at 9-10ham. If some people are interested to ride with some crazy canucks, I'll give you more information about our trip. We used to ride technical stuff.

    For now the plan is to ride 1 day in stowe, 1 day at waterburry(2nd time), 1 maybe 2 at KT.

    thanks for the informations!

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    Things should be pretty good by the weekend, The chainsaw crews have been going non-stop for days. I just put on a new chain and am heading out in a few.

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    If you like techy riding you should skip one day at KT and ride Millstone...... hit screamin demon, rollercoaster, herrington ridge and herrington heights...as well as some of the more xc stuff like locomotion, fellowship ring, ect. Some of the coolest trails in the east, wth some real pro work being done on the new stuff, and some classic NE singletrack as well. A good option if waterbury is closed for wetness.

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    yeah I know about Millstone, we've been there last year (East hereford, millstone and waterburry). The techy parts of millstone are really great, but, do I want to do so much milleage for the 3-4 tracks... hum... Still have to say that the techys are realllllly great! I had a too smal for me Anthem 2010 and now I got a bit-big Rumblefishpro 2013 with 2 ChunkyMonkey

    For the Stowe's trail, is there any place that we can pay a daily fee for cheering up the Chainsaw crew? Or a paypal account? We a wonderful site over here that hold up because of the free-work and daily passes. Have a look for the Sentiers du Moulin on facebook or youtube.

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    SMBC accepts donations via PayPal here: Donate

    Alternatively you could become a member and get a sweet sticker or two out of the deal if you visit one of the shops with some sort of proof you're paid up. Stowe Mountain Bike > MEMBERS > REGISTRATION

    Enjoy the trails, please be kind to the soft/wet areas (ie, walk them and take a sip of water or two), and keep your eyes peeled for debris and blowdowns. Locals, SMBC trailworkers, and pro builders usually keep all trails clear- but like Epic said we got hit with a freak storm the other day.

    Enjoy the riding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    Do any copies of Sniggle Unrest exist locally anymore? I've just been inspired to go shred Charlie's
    EVIL Uprising

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    Quote Originally Posted by vtsingletrack View Post
    Do any copies of Sniggle Unrest exist locally anymore? I've just been inspired to go shred Charlie's
    I think in Lincoln. Or maybe Lowell...one last VHS tape...

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    to be back on topic

    can you confirm me that it is possible to do the Stowe trails in 1 time in 1 day? If not, which site would you skip?

    We are now going on a 4 days trip... 1 waterburry, 1 stowe... maybe 1 in KT, but I rather try something new. Burlington? some idea?

    for now, the roadtrip could look like this:
    https://maps.google.ca/maps?saddr=Be...ra=ls&t=m&z=10

    can't wait to read some idea

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    I'd say you can ride everything that you will be able to find in one day. Get a map in town. Ride the Town Loops then down Charlie's to Stickhouse/Shween. Find your way through the Gershman property (not mapped, but not too hard to do) and over to the High School. Up Pipeline onto Trapp's property. Either go around their property, or pay for a pass and ride Luce Hill. Ride down Kimmer's. From there you could either ride down Rt. 108 back to where you started or ride up Hardy's Haul and take Haul Rd back to Trapp's down Pipeline and back toward town from there.

    All the chainsawing is pretty much done, and things should be drying out by the weekend, so have fun.

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    We already have the map from the last year trip, I guess the map didn't change that much. Right?

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    I don't think it has changed at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincyboy View Post
    to be back on topic

    can you confirm me that it is possible to do the Stowe trails in 1 time in 1 day? If not, which site would you skip?

    We are now going on a 4 days trip... 1 waterburry, 1 stowe... maybe 1 in KT, but I rather try something new. Burlington? some idea?

    for now, the roadtrip could look like this:
    https://maps.google.ca/maps?saddr=Be...ra=ls&t=m&z=10

    can't wait to read some idea
    Hinesburg from the lot on Hinesburg Hollow rd...up and over Carse Hill via front door/henry heights to lincoln hill rd, up into the Hinesburg Town Forrest via Back Door for a quick loop on Dragons Tail to Fire Breather, pick up dragons tail back to back door, then head back through Carse hittin Preacher/crucible/front door back to the car. Pinner to slight return for a bonus loop at the end.

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    Finally, we chose to add Pinehill and Madriver to our destinations (waterburry/stowe).

    Maybe I was unlucky, but I didn't find a lot of videos of the different trails... and I think it's surprising... a good surprise??? I'd like to know.


    Mountain Bike Vermont: Hinesburg | Bicycling Magazine
    Mountain Bike Trail Map
    https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Sleepy...m&z=13&iwloc=A
    ±20km de trail, intermédiaire à avancé
    ****no videos on youtube ?


    Mountain Bike Vermont: Rutland | Bicycling Magazine
    Pine Hill Park Welcome
    https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Pine+H...-Unis&t=m&z=11
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    http://www.pinehillpark.org/php/Maps_files/MapSat_2.jpg
    ***** the trails don't seem to technical from the little that we saw from the website. Can anybody confirm?
    ****Do you have a to-do-list in order to have fun? Can't wait to see the work they've done for the bridges!



    Mountain Bike Vermont: Waitsfield | Bicycling Magazine
    https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Waitsf...tats-Unis&z=12
    trailmap
    Mad River Riders Mountain Bike Map #1
    Trails description O.o (nice!!!) : http://madriverriders.com/content/Tr...nprint2011.pdf
    j'ai pas trouvé de vidéos qui montre des trails sur le sens du monde...
    Sugarbush Mountain Bike Park: Jen 5 - YouTube
    *****any words? the bike park seems so f**** slowwww... maybe the brake are jammed?
    ***the map has no scale... long trail ride?

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    I'd skip Pine Hill unless you're looking for less difficult riding. Good place when everything else is wet or if you're near by, but you pass alot of better riding to get there IMO. Waitsfield has good stuff but try and find a guide or hook up with the shop ride at Stark Mtn bike shop corner of rt 17and 100.w

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    we obviously can't beat the sh** out our leg everyday, but if you say that it's a waste of time, we go elsewhere

    About Waitsfield, what happen if we are not lucky and there's nobody that is riding the trails?

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    Rutland is very nice. It's all "built" trails, bench cut everywhere, but a little rougher than your average bench cut trail. It has a few rock gardens, but yeah generally pretty easy riding - that doesn't mean it isn't fun though!

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    I have no problem with rough terrain, until it's meaningless... I mean that an endless washboard is no fun at all. I don't ask for a smooth and boring terrain like we usually get at KT. The trails are really fun, but with boring terrain, IMO.

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    Planning trip to Stowe, Waterburry, Waitsfield, Hinesburg

    Oh... I hate this weather forecast... heavy rain on sunday. What is the site that dry the quickest?
    Waterburry?
    Stowe?
    Hinesburg?
    Rutland?

    don't worry about the tires... On-One Chunky Monkey 29"x2.4" Tyre

    If anybody wanted to rent a lean-to at a place in the middle of our trip, forget it. Ok the LazyLions got 1 left but it's too far for us...
    Last edited by Vincyboy; 07-25-2013 at 03:51 PM.

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    You can't go wrong with the ten places Berne mentions in her article, but there is some really good riding to be had in Pittsfield as well. It just wasn't as well known at the time she wrote the piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincyboy View Post
    Oh... I hate this weather forecast... heavy rain on sunday. What is the site that dry the quickest?
    Waterburry?
    Stowe?
    Hinesburg?
    Rutland?

    don't worry about the tires... On-One Chunky Monkey 29"x2.4" Tyre

    If anybody wanted to rent a lean-to at a place in the middle of our trip, forget it. Ok the LazyLions got 1 left but it's too far for us...
    I'd say Rutland is pretty much rain-proof.

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    Rutland is pretty much rain proof and the trails actually flows there..... plus the guide stones are not put in stupid spots like stowe.

    With that said when you coming to stowe? I could do an all trails ride next tuesday.....

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    we leave on tuesday... 4 days of epic bike is enough I think

    right now, I just know 2 things: We begin with Waterburry and we gonna ride Rultand the day after the rain.

    For now, the forecast is expecting less rain(10-15mm instead of 25-30). Maybe we gonna get lucky...

    Stay up all night to get lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by epic View Post
    I'd say Rutland is pretty much rain-proof.
    Millsone is also almost nver closedn just asks that you ride thru the middle of the mud. Millstone starts getting interesting when it's wetish. Alot of polished root in the tread...Waterbury is not a good place to hit when it's soft. Some Stowe rides would be OK, particuarly Pipeline, kimmers, Hardy Haul, and the pay-to-ride Trapps stuff. Great ride. If you join the felowship of the wheel you will get maps to Hinesburg town forrest and Carse hills. There is an adjoining riding area, Sleepy Hollow, that offees even more options there is you were wiling to pay,they have lodging too I think. I woulssuggest tat the Carse Hill area might be a good destination on more wet days. I can see a couple of the double tracks being real wet,but alot of the trail is benched. Pine hill also very durabe and a fun spot for sure.

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    Henry's Highlands at Carse Hill

    <iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=136321213068787" width="720" height="540" frameborder="0"></iframe>

    DaveVT mentioned Henry's Highlands at Carse Hill, but this year Henry's has been closed quite frequently. The landowner does not want riders if its wet. As of right now, it is open. Anybody can check trail conditions at fotw website. There is some really good technical/ madman riding going on here with killer climbs. If you go up and over on Henry's, down to Hinesburg Hollow, back on Front Door to Henry's, it's about 1000 feet vert in 6 miles.

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    oh what a nice vid!!! Can you give me a googlemaps point plz

    not technical but a niiiiiiiice continous flow. I would love this.


    thankssssssss

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
    Rutland is pretty much rain proof and the trails actually flows there..... plus the guide stones are not put in stupid spots like stowe.

    With that said when you coming to stowe? I could do an all trails ride next tuesday.....
    Uh-oh. Bushwacker's off his meds again. But he's right, the Mountain Bike trails in Stowe have rocks near the edge of the trail. Sometimes you ride over roots and rocks right IN the trail. For the skilled bike handlers, they offer the opportuniy to have some fun. For the strava-geek roadie over competative self absorbed and so ordained King of the mountain types, they can be troublesome when pretend-racing all the other virtual would-be King of the Mountain tool bags. Sort of like if there were attractive women strewn about the trail in need of assistance. Between the beautiful MTB women forcing you to slow down so they can move their injured bodies out of the trail so you can zoom by without helping, the rocks you might hit if you can't ride off the trails, and newly annointed locals obsessed with lap times....maybe Stowe is overrated. Speaking of videos, I think Bushwacker hasone posted of him riding Kimmers. It shows how on trail cn be ultra flowy for skilled riders, and not so flowy for roadies with little bike handling skills. Unfortunately you don't really get to see the flowy bits because ol' Whacker get's dropped faster then hot rocks. Now start with the excuses Wacker...

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    You're right, sometimes Strava's people are a bit savage. But I do some Strava when it's possible and when no ose else is in the way

    who would not help a MTB ladie??? really???

    we leave in 3h... seems like eternity...

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    Have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    Uh-oh. Bushwacker's off his meds again. But he's right, the Mountain Bike trails in Stowe have rocks near the edge of the trail. Sometimes you ride over roots and rocks right IN the trail. For the skilled bike handlers, they offer the opportuniy to have some fun. For the strava-geek roadie over competative self absorbed and so ordained King of the mountain types, they can be troublesome when pretend-racing all the other virtual would-be King of the Mountain tool bags. Sort of like if there were attractive women strewn about the trail in need of assistance. Between the beautiful MTB women forcing you to slow down so they can move their injured bodies out of the trail so you can zoom by without helping, the rocks you might hit if you can't ride off the trails, and newly annointed locals obsessed with lap times....maybe Stowe is overrated. Speaking of videos, I think Bushwacker hasone posted of him riding Kimmers. It shows how on trail cn be ultra flowy for skilled riders, and not so flowy for roadies with little bike handling skills. Unfortunately you don't really get to see the flowy bits because ol' Whacker get's dropped faster then hot rocks. Now start with the excuses Wacker...
    yeah like how do you pass Jon? just run him off the trail? and you keep bringing up the women who apparently talk more shit about your shit talking than they have ever talked about me. The guide stones in stowe are truly not needed. They scare the shit out of people and take away from the good riding we have here.

    just an FYI I can do kimmer's 2 minutes faster than what was posted in that video. 2 minutes faster might have been faster than hardy on that run.....

    Strava Segment | Kimmer's Trail

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    easy guys... easy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincyboy View Post
    oh what a nice vid!!! Can you give me a googlemaps point plz

    not technical but a niiiiiiiice continous flow. I would love this.


    thankssssssss
    any local shop will have map(costy 10 bucks). I work at Nordic Barn and would love to show you the way...

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    We just arrived 1h ago... More infos tomorrow, I'm thursty right now

    Quickly:
    Saturday: Perry hill + Stowe Adam's camp
    Sunday: Madrivers(Cyclone only, ****i it! not enough indication + Blueberry hill + Stowe Cadyhill
    Monday : Millstone (some track 2 times)
    Tuesday : KT (the classics)

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