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    NOT a deer!

    Guys and gals with guns in the woods for the next couple weeks. Alot of Vt trails are out of play. A few places are still good to go. Norwich land is hunt-free. Pine Hill I imagine is too. Where else can we ride that doesn't get hunted.

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    Cady Hill, Adams Camp, and Sterling Valley are big hunting areas in Stowe. Town Loops are usually safe - but still wear orange, and avoid daybreak and dusk...

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    Sunny Hollow and Saxon Hill are open, some adjoining land may be open to hunting, so be smart and wear orange.

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    A good thing to remember is that in VT, if the land isn't posted with "No Hunting" signs, there could be hunters.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    Norwich land is hunt-free.
    Does this include the high elevation singletrack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scharny View Post
    A good thing to remember is that in VT, if the land isn't posted with "No Hunting" signs, there could be hunters.


    Does this include the high elevation singletrack?
    That's a really good reminder. There's also a couple of lines I've heard to describe the first week or so of rifle season. If it's brown it's down! And - Snap, Crack, Bang!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scharny View Post
    A good thing to remember is that in VT, if the land isn't posted with "No Hunting" signs, there could be hunters.


    Does this include the high elevation singletrack?
    Most of it. The Paine Mtn. Trail is on town land, but if you take the low route and pick up the ridge trail at the saddle, as soon as you turn onto the singletrack you are on school land with technically is hunt free. The shelter and first section of singletrack, known as the goat path, are town land and hunted. There's a good chance people are hunting on the school property, but are not supposed to be. I'd feel pretty good about heading up and picking up the ridge trail from the saddle mid-day.

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    Hunters have never bothered me a bit. The few irresponsible ones only seem to shoot one another.

    Wear orange, make noise, and try not to think about how many times you've been blissfully unaware of being in a hunter's sights, because unless they're on the move, you're not likely to spot a good hunter.

    I've never heard of a mtn biker getting shot by a hunter. Has this ever occurred?
    I can barely get my mouth around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalphile View Post
    Hunters have never bothered me a bit. The few irresponsible ones only seem to shoot one another.

    Wear orange, make noise, and try not to think about how many times you've been blissfully unaware of being in a hunter's sights, because unless they're on the move, you're not likely to spot a good hunter.

    I've never heard of a mtn biker getting shot by a hunter. Has this ever occurred?
    I'm not afraid of actually getting shot. I just want to repect the fact that we recreate on land that gets hunted. They have a 2 week season to get deer and we definitly bum them out when we are out on the land they are trying to hunt on. It's hard enough for hunters, many of whom are also Mountain Bikers, to find land that is not posted. So for the 2 weeks of rifle season, it just seems only right to me to let them have the woods to put some meat in the freezer. Maybe it's just me, but if for the next 2 weeks I can limit where I ride to places they can't hunt, I'm helping them out and being a more accomodating land user. Anyone else feel this way or am I an anomoly?

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    I see - that is very considerate of you! I don't think there is any shortage of hunting space here in southern NH, and I believe some of the hunters actually leverage trail traffic since it periodically flushes game away from the trails and into their sights.
    I can barely get my mouth around it.

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    A hunter told something along those lines as well Pete. Said the cyclist were no problem and often helpful.

    I personally never worry about getting plugged, and having almost run into a deer twice while riding and seen many more up close I figure they can't be too concerned with what I'm up to.

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    So what your saying is Bearbrook is open!

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    "repect the fact that we recreate on land that gets hunted. They have a 2 week season to get deer and we definitly bum them out when we are out on the land they are trying to hunt on."

    I'm with DaveVT. We have the woods 11 months of the year, give them a break!

    Some hunters can use the bike traffic to their advantage, but they are in the minority. If you had waited all year for this chance, hiked in before dark, sat for hours, freezing your ass off, heard a deer coming along that game trail you scoped out last week, only to have it spooked off by some bikers, you'd probably be pissed enough to tear down some trail signs. (not that I'm saying that's OK.)

    Let's share. It's their turn.

    STAB's Ascutney Sport Trails are closed from November 1st until the end of deer muzzle-loader season on December 9th. The trails are open for night use, when hunting is not permitted. But wait until dark - the hunters have until 1/2 hour past sunset, and they tend to get a little trigger happy at the end of a fruitless day.

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    The Green Mountain Trails in Pittsfield are closed for deer hunting season.

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    Millstone's open...and if you are interested in winter riding there, please post your interest on their FB page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mills...ref=ts&fref=ts

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    Pine Hill in Rutland is open and should be hunter-free.
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    Although probably out if the way for you, mud pond in williston is a gun-free zone.

    I'm thinking night riding should be ok right? Getting dark about 5pm, and you can only shoot dawn to dusk, I think. Is that correct?

    I've been digging the night rides lately. After work, nice and cold, hard packed trails and a head lamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattgVT View Post
    Although probably out if the way for you, mud pond in williston is a gun-free zone.

    I'm thinking night riding should be ok right? Getting dark about 5pm, and you can only shoot dawn to dusk, I think. Is that correct?

    I've been digging the night rides lately. After work, nice and cold, hard packed trails and a head lamp.
    Yes, hunting is permitted until 1/2 hour past sunset, which puts it at almost 5:00 today.

    Headlamp? You should be able to smell a good trail.

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    in Brattleboro all the retreat trails, hillwinds trails and the memorial park trails are leaf and hunter free...some parts of the trail up to petes are not posted and pleasant valley is open to hunters and they are usually out-of-stater's so steer clear of there in the daytime. lights are best option for hunting season riding, most deer have built in night vision and don't require lights like feeble humans....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but if for the next 2 weeks I can limit where I ride to places they can't hunt, I'm helping them out and being a more accomodating land user. Anyone else feel this way or am I an anomoly?
    This is a great way of looking at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill in Houston View Post
    This is a great way of looking at it.
    He's from Vermont, he can't help it. But I totally agree, we can and should share public use lands.

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    I prefer to be an obnoxious butt hole at saxon hill during hunting season due to the fact that the adjacent land owners have no regard for the public park.
    I see where they are coming from, but the park was there before them. -Still a punk at heart.

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    I can barely get my mouth around it.

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    im thinking that most hunters are active early in the am and right before dusk
    maybe avoid the woods during those times.

    Ive never heard a hunter complain about mtn bikers though, Yudicky has 6 or 7 active tree stands, and is virtually covered in bike trails. If the hunting was no good because of bikes I think they would move on, but since they dont and they were adding mmore stands this year I dont see any issues.

    Bear brook only allows hunting in certain areas

    in NH you can hunt anywhere its not posted even private property, 7 days a week
    Ma. & Maine no hunting on Sundays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalphile View Post
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    We went for a ride last Friday and came across a hunter, he was on a bike trail and was reminding us that it was still muzzle loading season in Maine and we should be wearing orange. He owned a parcel of land in the area that has trails and had no ill will towards us being out there, in fact he was rather happy to see us using it! He mentioned to a buddy that he could see white bouncing through the trees, My buddy's bike is white. Being that I tried hunting the first time this year I happen to notice that the hunters muzzle loader, was cocked and ready to go. All the Avid hunters I talked too assured me that this is not safe muzzle loading etiquette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickcarll View Post
    We went for a ride last Friday and came across a hunter, he was on a bike trail and was reminding us that it was still muzzle loading season in Maine and we should be wearing orange. He owned a parcel of land in the area that has trails and had no ill will towards us being out there, in fact he was rather happy to see us using it! He mentioned to a buddy that he could see white bouncing through the trees, My buddy's bike is white. Being that I tried hunting the first time this year I happen to notice that the hunters muzzle loader, was cocked and ready to go. All the Avid hunters I talked too assured me that this is not safe muzzle loading etiquette.

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    But they are so warm!

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    If you were a sociopath and also a hunter, plugging a MTBer might be easier than luring a hooker into your van. Think about it, you can just sit out on the trailside and wait for one to ride by. Your defense, hunting accident. I recommend spending more time on the road. Oh by the way, hunting season ended yesterday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvinnf View Post
    If you were a sociopath and also a hunter, plugging a MTBer might be easier than luring a hooker into your van. Think about it, you can just sit out on the trailside and wait for one to ride by. Your defense, hunting accident. I recommend spending more time on the road. Oh by the way, hunting season ended yesterday!
    I've had you in my sights several times, Al. It was tempting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvinnf View Post
    If you were a sociopath and also a hunter, plugging a MTBer might be easier than luring a hooker into your van. Think about it, you can just sit out on the trailside and wait for one to ride by. Your defense, hunting accident. I recommend spending more time on the road. Oh by the way, hunting season ended yesterday!
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    Firearms done in NH for Deer, archery ends 12/15. ride on.
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    Getting to be that time again, as I saw and avoided a bird hunter in Smith Preserve the other day.

    So... Hypothetically thinking, Let’s say someone was visiting Stowe VT for business on the first day of rifle season(NOV.15). And let’s presume that the trail conditions and woods were fine for riding. If you were this first time visitor to Stowe, who btw, is not afraid of getting shot and totally never gets lost exploring new places, what sort of outdoor adventure activity would best be done on mid-day Saturday?

    Would you-
    A. Dress all up in day-glow orange, play some booming music and go for a mountain bike ride? (Looking for best loop from the lodge that heads to Town trails.)

    B. Go for a hike up the mountain with rock sliding tools and get a few turns in? …best route? Stowe up policy? Obviously stay away from workers.

    C. Cross bike …roads, gravel, and stuff. what/where?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddski View Post
    Getting to be that time again, as I saw and avoided a bird hunter in Smith Preserve the other day.

    So... Hypothetically thinking, Let’s say someone was visiting Stowe VT for business on the first day of rifle season(NOV.15). And let’s presume that the trail conditions and woods were fine for riding. If you were this first time visitor to Stowe, who btw, is not afraid of getting shot and totally never gets lost exploring new places, what sort of outdoor adventure activity would best be done on mid-day Saturday?

    Would you-
    A. Dress all up in day-glow orange, play some booming music and go for a mountain bike ride? (Looking for best loop from the lodge that heads to Town trails.)

    B. Go for a hike up the mountain with rock sliding tools and get a few turns in? …best route? Stowe up policy? Obviously stay away from workers.

    C. Cross bike …roads, gravel, and stuff. what/where?


    Thanks... hypothetically.
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    Option C is always a good one too. Year round. If the trails are wet/snowy, break out the 'cross bike.

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    10-4, thanks guys.
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    I guess KD hill does get hunted. Insane to shoot a rifle in there IMO but avoiding early and late should be plenty considerate. A mid day ride there should be fine. Trails are really dry now, should be fine early next week.

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    Absolutley crazy if someone was to hunt in KD, I can't imagie they would have much luck with so many people using the trails. Nice stuff, great work in there, conditions were perfect with the morning chill.
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    I see deer there all the time. Seems like a bad move shooting there though.

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    I will be up visiting my family in November in Waterbury. Is the best place to get some miles in before turkey the Stowe town loops? I have ridden there a few times solo and would like to hit the new to me single track that was built but I am unsure ow to get to them. Is it better to park by iride to go in or further up 108? Thanks for the help.

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    ^That's what I would do. Take Charlie's all the way out. We did quite a bit of work on it and it's riding pretty good. At the bottom you pass the exit to Flo and feed directly into the climb, Snake. When you hit the KD Hill connector at the top turn right and it will take you right to flo. When your done with that you can take the connector all the way to the Green Chair and do the rest of the stuff, and take bridgy back to charlies at the end of your ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    ^That's what I would do. Take Charlie's all the way out. We did quite a bit of work on it and it's riding pretty good. At the bottom you pass the exit to Flo and feed directly into the climb, Snake. When you hit the KD Hill connector at the top turn right and it will take you right to flo. When your done with that you can take the connector all the way to the Green Chair and do the rest of the stuff, and take bridgy back to charlies at the end of your ride.
    Dave is Charlies the trail from Iride? I came out of the town loops at another lot up on 108 I guess this is the second lot I was talking about where there was a pretty big sign?

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    Birmy, out on the trails there are lots of maps and numbers at the intersections. Very easy to navigate around, super easy. I just started at iRide, went up the road a bit to the main parking lot.
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    Yup. Stay left all the way out. At the bottom of the fun stuff, about a mile out, Flo comes in and Snake starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddski View Post
    Birmy, out on the trails there are lots of maps and numbers at the intersections. Very easy to navigate around, super easy. I just started at iRide, went up the road a bit to the main parking lot.
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    Yup. Stay left all the way out. At the bottom of the fun stuff, about a mile out, Flo comes in and Snake starts.
    Thanks for the help!

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    NOT a deer!

    FYI - I've seen hunters on the schween haus loop trails, several years in a row. I think it's the same guys every year. They usually park their truck at the end of the gravel road climb. Whether or not they have permission to be there, they're not friendly to trail riders.
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    Is Stowe going to be good to go this week? I am heading up tonight to beat the snow in CT and hoping for the best.

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    What a fun time!! The amount of work in there since I last rode in the spring is amazing. Thank you trail gnomes!!!

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