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    2012 Winter trail conditions - NH

    I am starting this thread a couple days early I know....

    I have only been trail running and on the cyclocross bike the past 2 weeks so I have limited knowledge of the current NH trail conditions. Anyone have reports on Franklin Falls, Bear Brook, FOMBA, etc.?

    Running through a small part of Bow yesterday I saw a few big frozen puddles on the snowmobile trails near the Robinson Rd. end of the town forest, but everything for the most part was frozen solid dirt. I hope to get out on the 31st mid day if the rain stays away in Concord to check out my local stuff.

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    anything south of Concord is pretty much fall conditions, mostly dry , some minor frozen dirt, ponds are too thin to ride. North of Concord I dont know

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    FOMBA was in good shape yesterday. Solid, frozen ground, no wet areas at all.

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    Smile Great Conditions

    I have ridden HP, LDT, and Fort Rock this week and all were in great shape. No water and frozen dirt everywhere. HP and LDT both had leaf free trails. Thanks to whomever blew or raked the trails in these places. LDT even had some new skinnies added to the beginning of one the trails. Fort Rock was covered with leaves over frozen trails which made for some tough up-hills but still a great ride.

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    The trails behind Concord Hospital are in good shape for the Winnant stuff I hit (yellow and white trail). Trails through St. Paul's were pretty good. Explored around Turkey Pond and those were pretty wet in a lot of spots the closer I got to Clinton St. coming from the bike path along 89.

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    Quarry side in Concord is good. Watch out for the bridge set on the low re-entry to the quarry side- it'll getcha- It is getting older and the second "up" section is super slippery now ... and the consequences are a jumble of large rocks. Anyone have some time and a bit of chicken wire?

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    Musquatch is high and rippingly dry.

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    Anyone know the conditions at Franklin Falls?

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    Bear Brook was perfect today. Everything was frozen smooth - no mud or crud, leaving it very fast. Most of southern NH should be the same Sunday.

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    NH conditions

    Check out youtube, search for sph03743, there are a couple videos of my recent rides...Franklin Falls and Stab trails in Ascutney, VT. Sorry can't post links on MTBR yet, they tell me I haven't posted enough to include links.

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    Stuff through Concord and Bow was in great condition yesterday. Long range forecast for the end of this week does not look too good with rain and snow mix. I will take just snow please.

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    one of the best rides I've had in a while this weekend. Ground was frozen and superfast only a couple patches of ice, almost cased it after a jump.. huge ice patch right before a bridge... other than that, awesome conditions for most of SNH.
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    horse hill

    light crust, fine for fat tire bikes, studded tires ok but a workout
    anything packed down is fine with studs
    I heard that Marshabesic & HP were snow free

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    Have not been out on the trails (nor do they look like they've seen much traffic since the strom), but the Newfields side of Ft. Rock still has a couple of inches of snow with a thick layer of ice on top.

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    Any info on lowell/dracut? Lookin to ride monday... not really into HP.
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    Lowell-Dracut looks to be on the edge according to this data. You really need a report from feet on the ground, though, especially when the line is this close.

    Fort Rock is often just barely on the white side of the snow line....so close, yet so far. Fortunately, it tends to get packed down quickly and is usually one of the best mtb spots in SNH once the snow hits.

    Anyone braving the cold today?
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    heard willowdale was damn near perfect today. i pussed out and stayed inside all day. may hit up willowdale late morning tomorrow. lots of snow/ice between stratham/fort rock.

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    There will be a small group of us meeting at Willowdale/Linebrook Rd. around 11:45am tomorrow. We plan to hit all the singletrack, plus the one singletrack we know of across the river in BP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalphile View Post
    There will be a small group of us meeting at Willowdale/Linebrook Rd. around 11:45am tomorrow. We plan to hit all the singletrack, plus the one singletrack we know of across the river in BP.

    -Pete
    well, that could work out perfectly for me. i know the trails in willow/bp fairly well. should be great weather for a ride.

    i'll be there fer sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    heard willowdale was damn near perfect today. i pussed out and stayed inside all day. may hit up willowdale late morning tomorrow. lots of snow/ice between stratham/fort rock.

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    dang, saw this about 30 min. too late to make it on time. been tryin to get the motivation to go out... guess I'll try some down hill in the snow!
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    18 miles in under 2 hrs of pedaling time awesomeness at willowdale/bp today. trail conditions were dusty and dry. unreal. had a great group of 5 and all were strong riders which was great for flow and keeping the HR in a good place.

    thanx guys, let's do it again!

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    lowell dracut

    is great, maybe 60% bare 40% ice studs a must

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan0 View Post
    is great, maybe 60% bare 40% ice studs a must
    Is that where that sweet Y-shaped log ride is? That looked awesome, I could use some of that.

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    yes it is
    HP and willowdale have almost no ice as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by radair View Post
    Is that where that sweet Y-shaped log ride is? That looked awesome, I could use some of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan0 View Post
    is great, maybe 60% bare 40% ice studs a must

    you think you need studded tires to ride LDT right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogreg View Post
    you think you need studded tires to ride LDT right now?
    yeah, about 40% is glare ice. it must be on the border beacause the rest is bare dirt

    no studs required at willowdale

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    Quote Originally Posted by radair View Post
    Is that where that sweet Y-shaped log ride is? That looked awesome, I could use some of that.
    Yeah, that is a nice log ride. I saw the two guys in there building that sometime this fall. I rode both sides a couple weeks back and then hit the natural teeter that is right after as well. Good stuff at LDTF. There is a real nice rock playground in there also with rollers and drops galore.
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    The riding has been winter epic up here in Franconia, crusty great traction dense snow. Some ice but I am the only one using studs, and I think I have the advantage. Today Cannon got 8 inches of pow and our trails got one inch, so tomorrow ski in the am, ride in the pm. Starting to feel like a Californian!

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    what are peoples thoughts on riding this weekend? Probably pretty snow free southern an coastal areas, but maybe too muddy? LDTF? HP? Fort rock? the marsh? maybe even vietnam? looking to be 50 tomorrow with rain an mid 40s sat an sun...
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    Can speak for northern mass a bit here. Was at HP on Thursday and it was a bit muddy then. I suspect its a slop fest right now as it absolutely POURED here today. Looking at the temps for the weekend it might be best to wait until the ground refreezes next week

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    Agreed

    best hope is for freezing temps Sat. night , maybe frozen enough to get out Sunday early

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    Bear Brook is good, studs required
    Yudicky is good as well 40%ice/slush 60% dirt
    Lowell dracut good, bare
    HP bare
    willowdale bare
    russel mill good

    looks like south of Manchester is good . Winter rules, if it warms up too much and gets muddy stay off ( dont make ruts )

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    +1 on LDTF. Rode yesterday, a little muddy in the usual places and a few icy corners but mostly melting ice so it wasn't really slippery. Morning rides would probably be best...
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    HP was mint today.

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    Good to hear about the trails coming back for some riding.

    Fomba has been great with studs. 125 and Jenkins side are stellar at HP.

    Gotta get some Willowdale soon.

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    Does anyone have a Fort Rock update?
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    Word is it's icy...probably ok with studs. I'm going there within the hour, I'll report back.

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    would love to get out tomorrow. Anyone been to HP or willowdale recently. Looks like conflicting reviews above. Thanks

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    I bet it depends on what time of day you go given the warm daytime temps and below-freezing nights.
    I can barely get my mouth around it.

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    Indeed. Braving the cold in the morning will get you better (harder) trail conditions. Doesn't matter as much to me at a place like HP because any slop doesn't really affect an already slow, technical ride. But if I was going to Willowdale I'd try to go when the ground is good and frozen to roll FAST.

    But yeah, both are good to go, no snow/ice, no studs required. Just could be a bit muddy depending on the temps.

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    any word on Franklin Falls lately? I know it was warm yesterday and today. hoping for a saturday ride...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad news View Post
    Word is it's icy...probably ok with studs. I'm going there within the hour, I'll report back.
    How was it?

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    Yeah...Fort Rock is way icy...I ended up in the cabbage and I was on foot. Studded tires or screw shoes/crampons for sure.

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    riding willowdale tomorrow at 1. should be cold enough so the ground doesn't thaw except in sunny spots. All are welcome, we don't know the trails at all. We definitely won't be breaking speed records with our 6" plus bikes. I'll post up conditions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by manchvegas View Post
    riding willowdale tomorrow at 1. should be cold enough so the ground doesn't thaw except in sunny spots. All are welcome, we don't know the trails at all. We definitely won't be breaking speed records with our 6" plus bikes. I'll post up conditions...
    conditions at willowdale are perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manchvegas View Post
    riding willowdale tomorrow at 1. should be cold enough so the ground doesn't thaw except in sunny spots. All are welcome, we don't know the trails at all. We definitely won't be breaking speed records with our 6" plus bikes. I'll post up conditions...
    Supposed to be 20ish tonight so Willowdale will be hard and fast for the most part. Enjoy! I'd come out because I'm 10 minutes away and know the trails real well but I've got plans already to ride down in RI tomorrow. Maybe another time. There is a one big drop there for your Mojo too, it's near the Old Right Road corner of the park assuming you've got a DCR map.

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    hampstead conservation

    ice ribbon trails with frozen dirt inbetween. connect to the lake for ice riding fun. studs? with out a doubt

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    willowdale was good. Few muddy spots where it was starting to thaw. But for the most part was dry an 99% ice free. ended up meeting a guy out there who gave us a tour, wouldn't have been nearly as enjoyable without the tour. Thanks brad! Found the drops an jumps ... pretty ghetto haha hit the "abandoned car roller" though. Other than that just smooth singletrack. Not really my cup o tea for type of riding during the regular season but was definitely nice for a change of pace, good flow (with a guide) an fast rolling xc.. couldn't ask for better riding in Feb.!!
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    Did anyone ride LDTF over the weekend? Wondering about the conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack Dave View Post
    Did anyone ride LDTF over the weekend? Wondering about the conditions.
    Thanks!
    rode there last weekend, was good. no snow/rain really since an warm temps, gotta be even better now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack Dave View Post
    Did anyone ride LDTF over the weekend? Wondering about the conditions.
    Thanks!
    I rode LDT Sunday morning and it was good. No ice, snow, or mud anywhere.

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    rode over and checked out the stratham alps today. mixed bag. north facing lots of icy snow. south facing clear and slightly damp. east/west=combo of the two. riding without studs was pretty fun and exciting. good core workout. not ideal riding conditions overall.

    may head down to willowdale for a morning workout on thurs or fri to ride from 8-10am if anyone's interested.

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    Hey Rog, I might be up for that. Shoot me a message.

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    friday works best for me. ride 8-10am. i think i still have your phone #.

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    Rode BB yesterday, it's pretty good, mix of open dirt and ice ribbon.

    If anything it was too soft from the warm temps, best to rip it up in the morning, or sub 32* days. I-trail was good, especially to hall mtn marsh, it was a little soft in spots after that, not as packed.

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    Musquash is all ice from heavy foot traffic after the snowfall. Don't bother unless you have studs. I didn't have them, and I have a huge bruise to show for it.

    The trails off the Derry Rail Trail are in good shape. If you don't know them you'll need a guide to show you the entrances. There are numerous short trails linked together by the newly paved rail trail.

    Has anyone been to FOMBA recently? I was thinking of doing a long ride on Saturday, just not sure where to go.

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    anything south of Nashua is dry and clear
    Nashua, merrimack, etc has patches of ice

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    3pm Bear Brook Trail, ultra sketch zamboni ice, no dab zones.
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    Yep, still all clear of ice in northern mass. Little storm coming in saturday looking to give us a few inches of the white stuff though unfortunately. The skier in me feels guilty for enjoying the mild winter, but I've been lacking the funds to get out skiing much this winter. I'll take the great biking weather right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    3pm Bear Brook Trail, ultra sketch zamboni ice, no dab zones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan0 View Post
    shoe studs
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    yeah, I'm modifying my shoes some how, ultra sketch on that trail, black ice off trail, sheer drop to the brook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    yeah, I'm modifying my shoes some how, ultra sketch on that trail, black ice off trail, sheer drop to the brook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHICKS View Post
    FOMBA = Studs as of tuesday night.
    Thanks, I'll stay clear until it warms up.

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    I am headed to Mine Falls tomorrow around 1pmish, snow or no snow. My wife rode there yesterday and had a blast.

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    Newfields side of Fort Rock is pretty clear. The route around the wetlands by the Forest Ridge development is fairly free of snow. Some ice still especially on the north side and shaded sections. A little ice under the power lines. Otherwise, fairly dry with very little mud.

    We'll see what tomorrow's weather brings.

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    The way it used to be

    Blew off work this afternoon to go ride at Harold Parker Forest. First time there. After a 12 year break I started riding again last year for health reasons. HP reminded me of the way Bear Brook used to be. Went out to BB a couple times last fall and noted that the trails seemed to be a lot rougher, more rocks and roots on some familiar trails, but then it could be my over fifty body readjusting to seat time.
    All in all the trails at HP were great, a good mix of riding terrain.
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    Mine Falls may not be the most demanding place to ride, but my brother and I got in 18.5 miles there today.....lots of loops. Wet in a few spots from ice melt, but most of the terrain is dry and snow/ice free. It was worth the drive from Concord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by offrhodes42 View Post
    Mine Falls may not be the most demanding place to ride, but my brother and I got in 18.5 miles there today.....lots of loops. Wet in a few spots from ice melt, but most of the terrain is dry and snow/ice free. It was worth the drive from Concord.
    Mine Falls is excellent for times when conditions might not be very good elsewhere. It drains well and is often the first place in NH to firm up in the spring when nothing else is rideable. Bering both flat and smooth, you cover a lot of ground there quickly and learn to patch loops together as you did. Beware that there is often a lot of foot traffic here on the weekend, as I'm sure you witnessed, so a bell is recommended if you have one.

    Bear Brook was awesome today! Gotta love the no dab zones on the Bear Brook trail. Studs are necessary.
    I can barely get my mouth around it.

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    anyone know if franklin or bear brook is ok for no studs yet? have a buddy without studs thats dying to go

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    Merrimack this past Sat. was dry and clear with only minimal patches of ice. No studs needed.

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    getting closer

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    Anyone know about willowdale after yesterdays storm
    Momma always said "GO BIG OR GO HOME"

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    I actually rode willowdale yesterday late morning before most of the rain. Fire roads were real muddy, singletrack was a bit greasy, but not deep mud. After all the rain that fell since I left though, I'd say give it a day or two.

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    Mine Falls was surprisingly firm yesterday in the late afternoon. It should be excellent all day today.

    I'm going to check out Musquash today.
    I can barely get my mouth around it.

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    Thanks for the update Birdman,
    Stayed local today and actually rode 75% of our trails.
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    Musquash was darn near perfect this afternoon. No mud, just a few soft/slick spots in the sun.
    I can barely get my mouth around it.

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    FOMBA 99% clear, few patches of ice here and there on the trails I hit.
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    I agree, and I think you must be the guy Joe and I met on the trails yesterday. Thanks again for the ride. Joe loved it, I think we have another lifetime biker on our hands. that was probably the 2nd time he has ever done any real mtn biking. he is self conscious of being slow and a beginner, but he did fine. thanks for being ok with our slow pace Eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalphile View Post
    Mine Falls was surprisingly firm yesterday in the late afternoon. It should be excellent all day today.

    I'm going to check out Musquash today.
    It was good on Sunday too. It looks like winter is going to try and show its face starting mid-week.......ski day Friday for me.

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    Lowell was great Sunday afternoon. Found a new log ride to boot.
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    You da man Severum!

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    Yup, that was me. Joe did awesome for his second time out! He needs to get that blown fork replaced and some clipless pedals stat.

    Maybe I'll see you guys on a S.NH NEMBA group ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericF600 View Post
    I agree, and I think you must be the guy Joe and I met on the trails yesterday. Thanks again for the ride. Joe loved it, I think we have another lifetime biker on our hands. that was probably the 2nd time he has ever done any real mtn biking. he is self conscious of being slow and a beginner, but he did fine. thanks for being ok with our slow pace Eric
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    I dropped off his bike for a new fork this morning. hopefully ready to ride again on the weekend. would love to hit up some group rides, fingers crossed!

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    so...............

    i guess that's it............

    this storm should reall fvck $hit up for a bit.

    twas a good run...........

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    yeah, pretty glad I went to fomba last weekend

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    The stuff around St. Paul's in Concord was all rideable yesterday at lunch. There were stretches of ice/snow, but they were all rideable. That will definitely not be the case by the end of this forecasted storm.

    Skiing should be great for the Southern mountains that have suffered this winter though.

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    For those new to winter biking in this area, Fort Rick (sic) and Bear Brook are often the earliest places to be rideable after a storm due to the amount of foot and snow machine traffic. Horse Hill in Merrimack is another than tends to be rideable soon after a storm.

    It also looks like early morning rides will rule as it will be above freezing during the day and below at night. Even though packed snow is quite temporary, please do not ride in it if you are leaving ruts behind.
    I can barely get my mouth around it.

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    What about now after the warm rain?
    I am immune to your disdain.

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    wondering the same thing.

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    ^^^^^^way too much snow still seacoast way. probably 6-8" of snowack in the woods with a freeze tonight followed by cold. the xc skiing was good thursday and amazing friday. will probably be good for a few days more.

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    maybe by next weekend, at least some of the drier places
    I tried Horse Hill Thursday but it hadnt been packed down enough for the Pugsley

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