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    Zeus built

    27lb should be a flyer.

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    Looks great - all the latest and greatest with a 20 year old saddle.

    You got a stock of them, or what?

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    Odd build package with long travel and a dropper seat post then Crests. What is this bike trying to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by discodave View Post
    Odd build package with long travel and a dropper seat post then Crests. What is this bike trying to be?
    Looks like a nice light trail build to me. That build would be perfect for my wife, light weight with confidence building geometry. I don't think there is a wrong or right build as long as it makes since for the rider. I have an "Odd build" 29er hard tail with a dropper post, bash guard, 50mm stem and wide bars that I jump and ride off drops

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    Quote Originally Posted by discodave View Post
    Odd build package with long travel and a dropper seat post then Crests. What is this bike trying to be?
    I agree. Some people have too much money. Judging by the build, this person is a noob - but has cash.
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    A rider on a 16" frame requiring a stronger rim than 650b Crests would have to be pretty hard core or very chubby. Good build IMO. I would require sturdier wheels and fork because of my chunkiness.

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    Wtf's with the Ventana bashing

    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles View Post
    I agree. Some people have too much money. Judging by the build, this person is a noob - but has cash.
    You get beat up by one in highschool or something?
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    ride report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottybinwv View Post
    ride report?
    Give it up

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    OK, the wife would only swop her El Ciclon for something totally different and she did not want a 29er. My aim with this bike was to build a bike that would be as light or lighter than her El Ciclon and I did that. My wife is no freerider and has always used lightweight wheels. She has a few rides on it now and was wary of a new wheel size, it has won her over. She feels the bike allows her to climb better, maybe because of the slightly longer wheelbase compared to her 26" and the revised pivot location on the newer Ventana frames as well as the wheelsize. It flows through the tight tree enclosed singletrack we ride in as easily as her 26" wheeled bike, but in her opinion descends better than any bike she has owned. To her it does not feel any different getting up to speed than her 26" bike.We have a ride that we have used for over 12 years full of roots, steep ups and downs mostly in singletrack, just over 20 miles, my wife without feeling that she was going any faster averaged 1mile an hour faster average speed than she has ever managed before. Thats all I can say, we all know that every Ventana is rock solid and has superb build quality and finish, and my wife is very impressed with her new ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fai View Post
    OK, the wife would only swop her El Ciclon for something totally different and she did not want a 29er. My aim with this bike was to build a bike that would be as light or lighter than her El Ciclon and I did that. My wife is no freerider and has always used lightweight wheels. She has a few rides on it now and was wary of a new wheel size, it has won her over. She feels the bike allows her to climb better, maybe because of the slightly longer wheelbase compared to her 26" and the revised pivot location on the newer Ventana frames as well as the wheelsize. It flows through the tight tree enclosed singletrack we ride in as easily as her 26" wheeled bike, but in her opinion descends better than any bike she has owned. To her it does not feel any different getting up to speed than her 26" bike.We have a ride that we have used for over 12 years full of roots, steep ups and downs mostly in singletrack, just over 20 miles, my wife without feeling that she was going any faster averaged 1mile an hour faster average speed than she has ever managed before. Thats all I can say, we all know that every Ventana is rock solid and has superb build quality and finish, and my wife is very impressed with her new ride.

    Thanks for the report. I cannot wait to get mine especially now that I too ride a Ciclon as your wife did. What color is that frame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daves4mtb View Post
    I would love to see someone do a thorough review on the Zeus!
    I just got my Fed Ex notice that mine is shipping today! Give me a few weeks because I am still screwing around with wheel builds.
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    Got mine built a few days ago. Hard to say better than advertised, but just as good. Stable, sharp, asks for just a little more than my old Ells Moment. 29.5lbs. Feels light when you pick it up, rides like a heavier bike in terms of stability and is just as maneuverable as a 26er.

    Only thing I'm going to change is the grips - crank bros foamies suck.

    Lets see some more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eber View Post
    Got mine built a few days ago.
    Wow, that thing looks great! I want one, no I need one!
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    Eber, IMO, This is the best looking new style Ventana I have seen. I'm really liking the Zeus with the less pronounced curvy top tube.
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    I can't lie, I think it looks awesome. Rides like a bulletproof trail machine without any weight penalty. Didn't drink too much weight weenie juice but did put on DT 240 hubs and the XO cranks. Other than those 2 components, this should be a pretty durable set up and hopefully won't require too much maintenance. Have had it built for 72 hours and have 3 rides under its saddle. As I'm in alaska I have to get the riding in while there is still time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Eber, IMO, This is the best looking new style Ventana I have seen. I'm really liking the Zeus with the less pronounced curvy top tube.
    I agree, Thats a mean looking bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Eber, IMO, This is the best looking new style Ventana I have seen. I'm really liking the Zeus with the less pronounced curvy top tube.
    I agree, much better looking than the some of the other new models.
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    Nice Bike Eber,

    What size is it?

    Does any one know what the extra options cost like colour, level 1,2 and 3?

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    Its an 18".

    The carbon black color I got was a level 1, $55 extra. Painting the swingarm was another $75. the 142 x 12mm thru axle added $150. The thru axle came with the axle though, which would have been $50-$60 by itself.

    Got about 60 miles on the bike so far (including a mud fest 20 mile singletrack ride yesterday). Bike is just so solid. Doesn't get bounced around on terrain as much as my Moment would, although the steering is a bit slower in some high speed tight turns. Haven't made any adjustments to my cockpit yet, but will probably shorten the stem a bit (have a 100mm Thomson on now).

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    Thank you Eber, Ventana is getting more and more interesting.

    Does anyone have a pic of the frame in size large?

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    Eber,

    Can you share your height and inseam and how do you fit the 18" Zeus? I'm 5'11'' with a 32.5" inseam and I think the posted geo numbers on the 20" may fit my reach better but the seat tube would be too high. I may have to go custom but I was curious about your own experience....

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    I'm 5'10" with a 33 or 32 inseam as well. I would think the 20" be way too large for me personally, but I always trend to like a slightly smaller frame. The 18" doesn't feel stretched out at all, possibly even slightly shorter than my previous 17" Moment. If you had longer arms or preferred a more stretched out ride the 20" might be a better choice.

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    What is Ventana asking for a basic, off the shelf Zeus frame with 135 rear? Do they allow shock options? I'd kind of rather run a RS Monarch...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    What is Ventana asking for a basic, off the shelf Zeus frame with 135 rear? Do they allow shock options? I'd kind of rather run a RS Monarch...
    The MSRP on the Zeus is 2295. It's possible to get any shock you want on it.
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    Does anyone have a picture of a complete build in size large?

    I like to see the complete bike in that size.

    Thanks.

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    The Zeus might actually be the frame that gets me back into the "V" family

    I went from a Marble Peak in the early 90's to a Salty in about 2000 and then to a SC Blur LT, which I have been thrilled with since I got it in 2009. I am thinking about putting a set of 650b wheels on the Blur. If I like 'em I may just have to trade in the Salty frame for a Zeus. That is a really good lookin' bike. I haven't been too enamored of the new swoopy top tubes on Sherwood's finest, but I really like the more subtle design of the Zeus.

    Now if they would only get rid of that butter soft derailleur hanger... Can't believe that design hasn't changed in 20 years. At least it looks to be the same as the one that was on my Marble Peak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy66 View Post
    Does anyone have a picture of a complete build in size large?

    I like to see the complete bike in that size.

    Thanks.
    I too would like to see more photos of the Zeus...frame-only or built, any size, any color, but a stock medium would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev View Post
    I went from a Marble Peak in the early 90's to a Salty in about 2000 and then to a SC Blur LT, which I have been thrilled with since I got it in 2009. I am thinking about putting a set of 650b wheels on the Blur. If I like 'em I may just have to trade in the Salty frame for a Zeus. That is a really good lookin' bike. I haven't been too enamored of the new swoopy top tubes on Sherwood's finest, but I really like the more subtle design of the Zeus.

    Now if they would only get rid of that butter soft derailleur hanger... Can't believe that design hasn't changed in 20 years. At least it looks to be the same as the one that was on my Marble Peak.

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    Completely agree about the more subtle top tube. Also, FYI, the 142x12 dropouts are extra stout and don't have a separate, replaceable (bendy) hanger. I've been riding mine for more than a year, and haven't bent it in spite of plenty of rock strikes. (I used to carry a spare Ventana hanger in my pack because I twisted them fairly frequently.) I guess the downside is that when I do bend the hanger, I'll be spending a bit more for a replacement dropout, but so far, so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daves4mtb View Post
    Review?
    It is a sweet riding bike Dave. Buy one!

    Shortest review ever.
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    I finally got mine finished! Been waiting for tires from Germany for 3 weeks. Its a semi custom 16/18 with the 142x12mm rear, color is mango tango. Weighs in a 30lbs and a couple ounces with pedals and dropper. I havent had a chance to ride it yet to do any sort of review, but it sure is shiney so that counts for something. A couple build highlights-

    Wheelset- Hadley ceramic bearing hubs, Sapium spokes, tl28 rims, Hans dampf pace star rear, trail star front

    Drivetrain- all x-9 for now till the xx1 gets here

    Brakes- Formula r1 for now, T1s are going on though

    Fox 34 160mm fork

    Thomson 50mm stem Gravity light carbon 740mm flat bars
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer299 View Post
    I finally got mine finished! Been waiting for tires from Germany for 3 weeks. Its a semi custom 16/18 with the 142x12mm rear, color is mango tango. Weighs in a 30lbs and a couple ounces with pedals and dropper. I havent had a chance to ride it yet to do any sort of review, but it sure is shiney so that counts for something. A couple build highlights-

    Wheelset- Hadley ceramic bearing hubs, Sapium spokes, tl28 rims, Hans dampf pace star rear, trail star front

    Drivetrain- all x-9 for now till the xx1 gets here

    Brakes- Formula r1 for now, T1s are going on though

    Fox 34 160mm fork

    Thomson 50mm stem Gravity light carbon 740mm flat bars
    Wow, crushing build. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer299 View Post
    I finally got mine finished! Been waiting for tires from Germany for 3 weeks. Its a semi custom 16/18 with the 142x12mm rear, color is mango tango. Weighs in a 30lbs and a couple ounces with pedals and dropper. I havent had a chance to ride it yet to do any sort of review, but it sure is shiney so that counts for something. A couple build highlights-

    Wheelset- Hadley ceramic bearing hubs, Sapium spokes, tl28 rims, Hans dampf pace star rear, trail star front

    Drivetrain- all x-9 for now till the xx1 gets here

    Brakes- Formula r1 for now, T1s are going on though

    Fox 34 160mm fork

    Thomson 50mm stem Gravity light carbon 740mm flat bars
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    Another sweet Zeus, Mxracer.

    The sizing on the Zeus is kind of odd to me, at least for the 18" size and what I am considering. The top tube length (23") is kind of short and seat tube length (18.40") seems a bit tall.

    It seems, from the people that have posted, that most have gone custom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Another sweet Zeus, Mxracer.

    The sizing on the Zeus is kind of odd to me, at least for the 18" size and what I am considering. The top tube length (23") is kind of short and seat tube length (18.40") seems a bit tall.

    It seems, from the people that have posted, that most have gone custom.
    It is because the size small, 16" frame, has a 30" stand over. That is high for most folks usually riding a small. This is the first time I have ever had a small frame, usually a medium or 18". The 16/20 semi custom is a great fit for me with a 30" inseam. The 32" inseam riders are fine, it's us shorties that are doing the customs. Still a very inexpensive upgrade for what you are getting if you ask me. I agree, the TT at 23" does seem short but that is what is great about Ventana. Change and get what you need.

    Love the mango MCRacer. Looks awesome!
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    How's that Magura fork working out?

    I've been considering it vs the white bros loop

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    Well here's some better pics and a little review.

    I have about 70 miles on it now and I didn't have to twist any knobs or change air pressures, so I think it's set up pretty well for now. My initial thoughts of the Zues are really positive. I've had a lot of different bikes to compare to, this year I rode a 2011 S-Works Enduro and a Kona Satori for the season, so that's what I'll compare it to. The 650b is really cool, it rolls, mowes over stuff, carves corners and holds momentum more like the 29er than the 26er. It jumps, aggressively corners, switchbacks, manuals, and at high speeds acts more like a 26er than a 29er. I think it picks up the good traits of each wheel size really well and I have yet to see any downfalls of the 650b wheel size, more than I can say for the 26 or 29. So I'm sold!

    As far as the frame goes- The Ventana frame is absolutely beautiful! It's built really well and is super stiff, it's the first aluminum frame I've had that I didn't fell the need for a carbon version. Pedaling is pretty good, it's not great at anything but really good everywhere. I think the pedaling will be better when I get the xx1 on it, it seems to be built around a 32t ring. I haven't noticed brake jack or anything else annoying. The suspension works great up and down, no complaints here, not bad for old school simple underrated single pivot. I think Ventana may be on to something continuing to develop boring single pivots for umpteen years Haha I think single pivots are going to be the next big thing with the single ring 11spd drivetrains coming out, I'll see soon! One of the coolest things about it is between a chainguide, clutch derailleur, internal cables and the HD tires, the bike is SILENT. Kind of gets you in trouble hauling ass, it never sounds like youre going fast until you realized you're spun out with a 36t! I've been running the bike in the 140mm travel, it seems to pedal a little better and is slighter taller and steeper effectively, perfect for the low level riding that is rideable right now. when the big mountain trails open up though, it will go to 160mm.

    A couple cool things on the bike that I was surprised by are the Gravity lite carbon flat bars and the x-9 drivetrain. The bars are stiff, light, a cool bend and are pretty cheap, I like the 740mm bars, I've been riding wider bars the last few years, but I'm getting sick of hitting stuff with my bars and I decided to narrow it up a bit. The drivetrain is KILLER for the price point. The new ball bearing shifters are great, the derailleur is great and the crankset is pretty flawless. It's pretty cheap and is a half a turd away from the weight of X0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discodave View Post
    Odd build package with long travel and a dropper seat post then Crests. What is this bike trying to be?

    Nothing wrong with a dropper seatpost on a light trail bike. ~140mm is not really "long travel" anymore... plenty of weight weenie bikes in that category.

    Now if he mounted Big Betty on Crests, that would be odd, but those are Racing Ralphs.

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    Another Zeus!!

    Fresh out of Chad's hands at Red Barn bicycles, here is my Zeus, 20" frame with 18" seat tube. Just had a chance to jump on to adjust sag and cockpit and give it a (very) short spin. Feels fantastic, can't wait to ride it! Ride report will be awhile, trails are not too rideable right now in Montana....

    Comes at 29.7 lbs with XTR trail pedals. More pics to come.

    Future additions are a dropper post and some Formula T1 brakes.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC822 View Post
    Fresh out of Chad's hands....
    JC, saw this posted on FB (I'm a "friend" of Chad's) today. VERY nice. I'm so much wanting a Zeus for my next "V"! Love the color too! Ole!
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    Thanks Todd,
    I am very happy with the color combo. Chad called me all kinds of names during the part picking process but I think the result was worth being psycho about it. I have been riding a 650B-converted El Ciclon for 3 years, so I am quite familiar with the wheel size, but I can already tell that this bike will crank the fun level many notches up!

    Cheers,
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    Looks amazing JC. When you get some miles and abuse on those hoops give me a shout back. I am starting to wonder about my choice on the Pacenti rims. Loose eyelets, dings and constant truing. Never had issues with Flow.

    Trails are amazing right now in SoCal after our rains. Get that beauty down here to get dirty.

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    Thanks Paul,

    I hesitated a long time between the Flows and TL28 and decided to go with the Pacenti because of the weight. Chad has had some on his El Chucho for a while and they have held fine so far, which made me go for them. I'll let you know how they hold but I am going to hang on to my set of Flows...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC822 View Post
    Thanks Paul,

    I hesitated a long time between the Flows and TL28 and decided to go with the Pacenti because of the weight. Chad has had some on his El Chucho for a while and they have held fine so far, which made me go for them. I'll let you know how they hold but I am going to hang on to my set of Flows...

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    That is probably my problem, Chad did not build mine! I like the weight and the roll great but I am just surprised how they are holding up. The titanium color looks great with the rear end painted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC822 View Post
    Fresh out of Chad's hands at Red Barn bicycles, here is my Zeus, 20" frame with 18" seat tube. Just had a chance to jump on to adjust sag and cockpit and give it a (very) short spin. Feels fantastic, can't wait to ride it! Ride report will be awhile, trails are not too rideable right now in Montana....

    Comes at 29.7 lbs with XTR trail pedals. More pics to come.

    Future additions are a dropper post and some Formula T1 brakes.....
    In love with the color, and loving the color on the CK stuff as well. The Chromag bits just finish it off completely.
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    Thanks,
    FYI, Teresa told me that they are changing the color for a more Ti-looking one with mat finish, so this one may become "custom".....

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    Hey MxRacer,

    Beautiful build! The 16/18 would also be my size. From your pictures it appears the top tube curve is less pronounced than the longer Zeus' we've seen. Do you think that is true? Also, is there enough room in the main triangle for water bottle mounts? Curious..
    Congratulations!

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