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    Weird Ventana?

    Any guess what it is? No guesses from Aaron or Myke. Myke has seen it and Aaron can probably figure it out.
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    I don't have a clue, but It can't be any wierder than this one
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    I don't have a clue, but It can't be any wierder than this one
    Ah yes, first generation El Terremoto. The X5 replaced it. By the way, nice pics of you on your X5 in the Random Photos post.

    Check out the weld on the weird Ventana.
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    Hmmmm tasty Klein type welds.

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    cross bike?
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek
    cross bike?
    Nope.
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    I can't be my new front triangle since it's not army green......Maybe, it's Lance Armstrong's new frame......I heard he was in the market for one

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life
    I can't be my new front triangle since it's not army green......Maybe, it's Lance Armstrong's new frame......I heard he was in the market for one
    Well it is the same color as Lance's bikes. I can hardly wait to see your new front tri built up.
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    Yeah, I am looking forward to a little more top tube length. How does that down tube look....phat, eh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life
    How does that down tube look....phat, eh!
    Oh yeah! That's the part I like the best. It's gonna look sic.
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    From those few pics it looks like a re-badged C-Dale.


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    I might almost guess steel, except for the color of the head tube showing right below the top headset cup.
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    It sort of looks like a carbon fiber frame, but I cant think of any good reason ventana stickers would be on something like that.

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    head tube looks tall... I'm going with straight up road bike

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    Top tube looks real skinny too. I am with CLAW on this one. Road bike.
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    Straight up road bike. No gussetts around the headtube, thinner diameter tubes, and when your not logged in the photos are labeled (vroaddie) Hopefully it's not a hipster fixie or something more dire.
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    I see:

    1" headset.
    Flattened top tube.
    Aluminum tubing, sanded welds.
    Nice hammer finish.
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    You guys are good! That didnít take long. Dang baníd4life, I knew I should have re-labeled those photos.

    Yep full on 16lb. road bike. El Martillo geometery which is real close to Cannondales. So I guess youíre right D re-badged Cannondale.

    Just a little look at what Ventana is capable of. We are not just a mountain bike company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek
    I see:

    1" headset.
    Flattened top tube.
    Aluminum tubing, sanded welds.
    Nice hammer finish.
    You were close with your cross bike guess. 1.125" head tube. Although it looks like they are the welds are not sanded. The tubes are so thin that they have to be double pass welded. The second pass smooths the welds out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauliemon
    You guys are good! That didnít take long. Dang baníd4life, I knew I should have re-labeled those photos.

    Yep full on 16lb. road bike. El Martillo geometery which is real close to Cannondales. So I guess youíre right D re-badged Cannondale.

    Just a little look at what Ventana is capable of. We are not just a mountain bike company.

    I thought your frame had to have carbon fibre or be full carbon to be considered a road bike these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ban'd4life
    I thought your frame had to have carbon fibre or be full carbon to be considered a road bike these days.
    Yeah I was headed that way (carbon fiber) until Sherwood suggested this frame. I see Mario Cipollini is still riding alloy frames. I guess if it's good enough for him,...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stripes
    Are BMX bikes next?
    With Sherwoods BMX background, not a problem.
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    What size is that? I absolutely love it!!!!!!!!!
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    I've talked to Sherwood a couple times about a Martillo. That thing is freaking saaweeeeeeeet!


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    VERY nice Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauliemon

    Yep full on 16lb. road bike. El Martillo geometery which is real close to Cannondales. So I guess youíre right D re-badged Cannondale.
    Hey, I didn't mean anything negative. Hell, I own one.




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    FINALLY!!! Came out great Paul..
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    Paul-When I as at the shop the other morning, I almost busted out and stripped the parts off that frame and threw them back onto your older frame hanging there on the rack. Just to mess with ya....but I figured it probably took you a bit building it up and that might be too mean. If I was going to be there to reassemble, I would have done it though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauliemon
    The X5 replaced it. By the way, nice pics of you on your X5 in the Random Photos post.
    Thanks.

    Nice lookin Martillo, yours?

    I've been thinking about having the guys at Ventana do a custom Martillo CX with track style drop outs and run it SS in our local CX races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauliemon
    Oh yeah! That's the part I like the best. It's gonna look sic.
    Dude, that DT is nothing more than amazing...... Ole'

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Rock
    Hey, I didn't mean anything negative. Hell, I own one.
    No worries D. The parts on the Ventana came off my Cannondale CaaD5. I love the C'dale. When I built the Ventana I wanted as close as I could get to the C'dale with a little shorter top tube and wheelbase. The El Martillo is very close to the Cannondale's geometry so it worked out great.

    I rode it today and I think I nailed it. There is one thing that is waaaaay better than my Cannondale. My thighs no longer hit my gut when I'm in the drops. That Sherwood Gibson can design a bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bling
    What size is that? I absolutely love it!!!!!!!!!
    Thanks Mr. Bling. It's a mix, 55cm seat tube, 570mm top tube, 17.8 cm head tube. I'm 6'1".
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    Thanks everyone.

    I rode the bike today about 30 miles and I love it. Like I told D-Rock my thighs no longer hit my gut when I'm in the drops, sweeeet!
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    Teresa told me about that later when I came to work. That would have blown my mind and cost you a couple of beers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauliemon
    Thanks Mr. Bling. It's a mix, 55cm seat tube, 570mm top tube, 17.8 cm head tube. I'm 6'1".
    good Lord, if I had the money...it's even my size!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauliemon
    With Sherwoods BMX background, not a problem.
    Get him to build two and I will race yer next time I see you.

    Love that road bike. I would have one if I could remember to look where I was going when out on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajr
    I would have one if I could remember to look where I was going when out on the road.
    LOL! That just reminds me of when you ran my hand across your collarbone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bling
    good Lord, if I had the money...it's even my size!!!
    And you would look so good on it. Now if I could only figure a way to get to France. I'd only stay until after the "Tour". Can we go to the Giro too?
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    Very Nice Paul! When I'm ready to talk with Sherwood about a CX frame, I'll ask about doing what you did on yours. I like how it came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    I've been thinking about having the guys at Ventana do a custom Martillo CX with track style drop outs and run it SS in our local CX races.
    No problem, we can do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by l84biking
    Very Nice Paul! When I'm ready to talk with Sherwood about a CX frame, I'll ask about doing what you did on yours. I like how it came out.

    Steve
    Thanks Steve. The tubing for my frame might be a little to thin for a CX frame. Talk to Sherwood and I'm sure he can come up with something.
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    are you serious?? whats up with the major swollen balls seat position? you know terry makes womens saddles for women with balls old man!

    cippolini rides alloy because he cant afford carbon..he owes the italian government tons of back taxes...

    looks comfy..just promise me you ride 50% bike trail and 50% El Dorado County roads

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    Quote Originally Posted by curtykills
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    are you serious?? whats up with the major swollen balls seat position? you know terry makes womens saddles for women with balls old man!

    cippolini rides alloy because he cant afford carbon..he owes the italian government tons of back taxes...

    looks comfy..just promise me you ride 50% bike trail and 50% El Dorado County roads

    Fernando says whatup Hippie!
    I leveled the saddle okay. Tell that mexican I said ,"Hey". I'm gonna have to ride 50% bike trail and 50% Sac county roads. I had to move back to Sac to take care of my mom. I'm going to drive up and see you guys some day. Tell Mark and Bubba, "Hi" for me.
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