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    Vintage Build - El Chamuco

    I went roadie for a few years but have been riding a steel hardtail recently and starting to think it is time to build the old El Chamuco. I am lusting for the new Ciclon but that is not in the cards now. I did notice that there is an amazing similarity between the Ciclon/Chamuco in terms of geometry. I used to run a 130mm Z-1 on this frame, but it is on the hardtail now so I recently acquired a new 150mm 44 RC3 Ti for only $250 to put on this baby. I have most of the parts I need to complete the build, but ...

    The good news is I have an old Manitou 3-way air shock (7.875 X 2.25) that fits the frame. The bad news is I need to buy 12mm reducers for it to fit this frame. Before I blow the $ on reducers, any other budget sugestions for a better air shock that take the 1/2" reducers I already have?
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    Nice frame! The Chamuco was my first ventana frame and I've owned a ventana ever since.

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    Get a nice little DHX 5 Coil, which will weigh more than an air shock and perform twice as well, come on it's a 6'' travel frame! Gorgeous by the way! In a twist of luck I ended up with Cannondale Gemini 900 instead of an El Chamuco about five years ago when I purchasing my first longer travel frame.......what might've been
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    i just built one of those !

    fun bike , sees duty as a 26'er and 650b .

    i overbuilt it in search of low maintainance and hardcore durability . i went w/ a 7.875x2.0 dhx5.0 air and have the original low use romic left over , you want ?

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    Help me pick a shock

    OK, parts are coming along for the El Chamuco build but for the rear I am going back and forth on shocks. I'll be running a 150mm Marzocchi 44 RC3 Ti (coil) up front and can't decide between 1.) Marzocchi Roco Lo (air) 2.) Fox Vanilla RC (coil) 3.) Monarch RT3 (air mid tune) and Swinger 3 air (already have but new bushings are expensive!).

    Tell me what you think ....

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    i like the air units and i found that a reg size air chamber works better than the hv cans , rt3 or swinger would be my choice out of your picks . out of curiosity i just tried a rp23 hv can mid tune unit off a friends bike on mine , a total fail on the chammy

    have you checked out the offerings from push for the rt shocks , esp the rt/am that the platform adj is converted to comp adjustment, 370 bucks and it's built for YOU & YOUR MACHINE

    there is a nice elka stage 5 coil on ebay right now that has bushings for a salty or ciclon installed , doubt they are the same as a chammy but fox stuff fits them

    lovin my chammy , kinda the do it all bike & w/ 650b's , it's faaaaaaassssssssssst

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    Should you decide to go with the Swinger, I've got a reducer for Manitou shocks to fit the Chamuco. I've had no use for it since breaking my Chamuco, so let me know if you're interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albeant View Post
    Should you decide to go with the Swinger, I've got a reducer for Manitou shocks to fit the Chamuco. I've had no use for it since breaking my Chamuco, so let me know if you're interested.
    I'm interested - check your PM's

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    Cambria bike outfitters was selling the original spring shock for the chamuco super cheap. I believe it's a romic shock. Check them out. I just upgraded my chamuco to an external bottom bracket set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albeant View Post
    Should you decide to go with the Swinger, I've got a reducer for Manitou shocks to fit the Chamuco. I've had no use for it since breaking my Chamuco, so let me know if you're interested.
    now that i think about it i have an extra set for the front that fits a fox

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbykemike View Post
    now that i think about it i have an extra set for the front that fits a fox
    Thanks but I do have a set of fox sized reducers. I have since acquired a vanilla RC coil shock as well as the Swinger 3 way air.

    I am still looking for 22mm reducers to fit the front of the Manitou however.

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    i got em ! i needed 8x22 for the 3way i put on my possum , the ones i took out were 6x22 , just checked em .

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbykemike View Post
    i got em ! i needed 8x22 for the 3way i put on my possum , the ones i took out were 6x22 , just checked em .
    If the reducers came off a 3-way they must be 12mm O.D. That is what I am looking for.

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    yeah they came of a 3 way and are the same o.d. as my other manitou set , which is different from my fox , rockshox and romic , which are all the same .

    the 6mm was the bolt hole , the fat possum uses 8mm , my chamuco and pantera are 6mm

    if you have a manitou and need the front spacer set , what i have is the right stuff

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    Very nice, that is a pristine Chamuco! Sadly mine was stripped of it's parts to donate them to my Terremoto but the Chamuco was a great ride to this day I still think it's one of the best all around "Moab" bikes I've built or rode. I actually liked the stock Romic shock on the Chamuco but it wasn't the best for pedaling efficiency. They had some leaking issues when they first came out I believe I know mine had to go back after it spewed oil all over right after I got it but then it's been great. I tried an RP3 on it and never really liked it, but it did pedal better with the propedal on.

    The Chamuco was a great sleeper bike, since it was a "lower cost" Ventana it never really got much marketing praise but everyone that hopped on mine loved riding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddM View Post
    The Chamuco was a great sleeper bike, since it was a "lower cost" Ventana it never really got much marketing praise but everyone that hopped on mine loved riding it.

    this !

    mine is real good w/ 26" wheels but w/ 650b's it is incredible , everyone that rides it loves it for what it does , almost 29'er fast but handles great

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    Never had so much FUN on a bike than on the Chamuco years ago at Downieville. That is until I rode a Chucho there as well. And now the version 2.0 Chucho pedals so much better.
    But man, there was just something about that Chamuco, it created ear splitting grins!

    Working on a guy who has two, yes TWO< XL Chamuco's in his garage. Trying to get one for myself....You can never have too many Ventana's.
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    Still riding my Chamuco and loving it. I am thinking of some upgrades right now, but not sure what to upgrade yet, as it does everything I want presently. It would be nice if it was lighter I guess. Some of my riding buddies are getting new bikes and try to pursuade me to get a new bike, but I can't bring myself to get rid of the old girl.

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