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    A New Zeus to the mix

    Building this beauty up for a customer.
    Fox Float 34 in a special black, as they normally are white.
    SRAM X0 Trail brakes
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    Dtswiss 240 hubs. 15mm and 12x142
    Stan's Arch rims.
    Schwalbe NobbyNics 2.35
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    Wow, the Orange/Matte Black really looks good. Nice!
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    Thats going to be a nice build! I can't wait to see it finished. What size frame is that?

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    Good grief, that thing is nice! Love a black rear end! (Not sure that came out right)
    whatever...

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    Sweet! I see it with a bunch of red ano...

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    That's going to be a nice build and look good too.

    How did you come up with the black Float?
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    It's the new sizing. Medium. 18".

    The black Float is a Ventana Special Edition.
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    Nice color combo. It makes me uneasy when I do not see at least one thread exposed on that nyloc nut.......I would remove the washer and replace it with a shim, just for more thread engagement.

    I'm still waiting to here about Ventana's secret project...shshhhhhhh

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    Killer can't wait to see it together!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life View Post

    I'm still waiting to here about Ventana's secret project...shshhhhhhh
    650XC design right? Whoops......out of the bag now.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    No, the carbon frame version. I did hear from a bird that was dabbled with along with Turner. Too expensive to keep it in USA. Think frame at Enve rim price. I really have no intel on this. Just something I was told at a demo from a Turner guy who used to work at V.

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    Still waiting for a DTSwiss XX1 cassette body....grrrrrrr! Final piece. Waiting, waiting waiting. Lame!!!

    PhishinPaul.....small sample, that used to work at V but now work at T?? Who dat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    650XC design right? Whoops......out of the bag now.
    From what I know of this new 650B, I would say it leans more to XC but like all Ventana frames the stiffness seems to give one a sense of immortality. Since I have put money, I will vote myself as the frames spokesperson

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life View Post
    From what I know of this new 650B, I would say it leans more to XC but like all Ventana frames the stiffness seems to give one a sense of immortality. Since I have put money, I will vote myself as the frames spokesperson
    Is there also talk of a carbon Zues?
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Yearly Rumor Clarification

    Int14 - Nobody who's worked at V in a LONG while, the crews been the same for like 4-5 years now?

    Everybody else, ok, every year on this board we get two occurances, Vince tries to be sly about having some innner knowledge about V which isn't SO secret (Sorry Vince don't mean to burst any bubbles, but in the interest of rumor control I'm clarifying) and two, somebody thinks there's going to be a carbon Ventana "X" model.

    Actually, there's three occurances, which is when I come on the board and clear up the rumors.....

    So here goes:

    1) The "secret" model: ShortER travel 650B frame ~120mm travel. Sherwood openly discussed before that he has to design his frames around available components, and up until now, the only big player (Fox/RS etc) forks were 160mm or so. But RS is coming out with a 120/140 Reba, and Fox will follow suit to keep up. Sherwood and I talked about a 120mm or so travel "trail" 650B model being an awesome addition to the lineup, BACK in Fall 2010/Spring 2011. I'm not sure when it will come out, as you saw from last year, it takes time to design new models and then make the needed tooling for the frames, and when you wear all the hats Sherwood does at V, time is not in abundance.

    2) Carbon "X" Ventana. While I have not asked Sherwood this specific question in over a year, I don't see any reason why his reasons last year would be any different now, too expensive to produce in-house, and as we know, V's are made in house for a reason.

    Again, Vince, didn't mean to spoil any surprise etc. Hope this clears things up before they get too out of hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciclistagonzo View Post
    Int14 - Nobody who's worked at V in a LONG while, the crews been the same for like 4-5 years now?

    Everybody else, ok, every year on this board we get two occurances, Vince tries to be sly about having some innner knowledge about V which isn't SO secret (Sorry Vince don't mean to burst any bubbles, but in the interest of rumor control I'm clarifying) and two, somebody thinks there's going to be a carbon Ventana "X" model.

    Actually, there's three occurances, which is when I come on the board and clear up the rumors.....

    So here goes:

    1) The "secret" model: ShortER travel 650B frame ~120mm travel. Sherwood openly discussed before that he has to design his frames around available components, and up until now, the only big player (Fox/RS etc) forks were 160mm or so. But RS is coming out with a 120/140 Reba, and Fox will follow suit to keep up. Sherwood and I talked about a 120mm or so travel "trail" 650B model being an awesome addition to the lineup, BACK in Fall 2010/Spring 2011. I'm not sure when it will come out, as you saw from last year, it takes time to design new models and then make the needed tooling for the frames, and when you wear all the hats Sherwood does at V, time is not in abundance.

    2) Carbon "X" Ventana. While I have not asked Sherwood this specific question in over a year, I don't see any reason why his reasons last year would be any different now, too expensive to produce in-house, and as we know, V's are made in house for a reason.

    Again, Vince, didn't mean to spoil any surprise etc. Hope this clears things up before they get too out of hand.
    Let me clarify your clarification, okay you got me. I am not in anyway attached to the brand name Ventana. I am just a middle aged slow white boy who spends his nights surfing mbtr and designing my latest tool. So no inner knowledge just constant e-mails for the last 18 months asking for a 120mm 650B frame. I finally got my answer in December and instantly put a deposit down. Maybe I should be the official spokesperson for this frame :/

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    I'm kind of curious about carbon, but I'm having a hard time buying into it. IMO, it's mostly marketing BS, it's a hell of a lot more expensive than aluminum and for what? What I am interested to hear more about is this Son of Zeus, the shorter travel 650ber, or 27.5 depending on the marketing hype you are listening too. I need to replace a 2002 Santa Cruz Superlight and a 120mm travel trail bike is what I'm looking at.

    And for forks, the X-Fusion stuff seems to be very adjustable, and the hype for their product is through the roof.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    And for forks, the X-Fusion stuff seems to be very adjustable, and the hype for their product is through the roof.
    As an X-Fusion HiLo dropper post owner (on a Ventana, no less), I can say that the hype is unfounded and I couldn't be UNhappier with their product. In for warranty repair twice already, hopefully when it comes back this time it will be fixed and I can change my opinion. I find their customer service and response time unacceptable. We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life View Post
    So no inner knowledge just constant e-mails for the last 18 months asking for a 120mm 650B frame. I finally got my answer in December and instantly put a deposit down.
    Did Ventana give you any possible release date? Maybe sea otter? 120mm 650b sounds interesting to me since Im already running my 2012 ciclon at 125mm rear.

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    It has begun!!

    All the parts have arrived. Phew!! Those XX1 cassette bodies from DTSwiss are extremely rare.

    Beginning of something beautiful.
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    Wheels are ready for tires now.

    Time for lunch. Wheels done. The rest of the build will commence in a short time.
    880 grams rear 142mm x 12mm
    770 grams front. 15mm



    And now with rotors and diamonds, I mean, XX1 cassette. Costs as much as a small handful of diamonds!
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    Is the wheel weight before Stan's tape and valve? What spokes, and brass or aluminum nipples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuenstock View Post
    Is the wheel weight before Stan's tape and valve? What spokes, and brass or aluminum nipples?
    Before tape or valve.

    DT Comp. spokes. (16)275, (32)276, and (16)278mm lengths.

    3x

    Brass nipples.

    Going for longevity over saving 50grams.
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    Thanks, Thats pretty much exactly how I would build myself a 650b wheelset except I need to use 6 bolt 240's hubs instead of center locks.

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    Almost there!

    Turned out there was a XO instead of an XO Trail brake in the front brake box. Grrrrrr. Correct one coming along Thursday.

    Bikes coming along nicely, no?
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    That looks like it is going to be fun.

    So, can the black float be ordered through Ventana with a frame purchase?

    And is that color Mango Tango?
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    You have to order the fork with the frame at time of purchase. Available only thru my shop.

    I await your call.

    Yes it's Mango Tango and Carbon Black.






    I kid about only getting the black float thru me. Not sure if Ventana would sell you one without it going out with an accompioning frame. Would have to ring headquarters about that.

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    Done. For Dunn.

    Here it is. Finished and ready for some dirt. 27lbs. w/o pedals. Medium. Mango Tango.






    And a little extra nice touch. A little tapered plug in the frt. der. housing hole. Thought about routing the LEV housing through there, but the routing up from the bb shell wasn't sano at all.
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    Loving this bike! Came off of years on vpp and dw bikes and I have to say to anyone out there wondering if this bike can climb.....it does! No pedal kick-back, no feeling of squatting or lost energy. And very stiff. Gets full travel on the downhill, which is a welcome change.

    1x11 SRAM kit is killer! KS Lev is really nice too. thanks again Velo City!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirty dunn View Post
    Loving this bike!
    Ole!

    Looks great DD. Currently riding an El Salt and a Terremoto. The gears in my head have been turning for some time now...
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    Enjoy that bike, it's a sweet build!

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    Awesome build! Have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuenstock View Post
    Thanks, Thats pretty much exactly how I would build myself a 650b wheelset except I need to use 6 bolt 240's hubs instead of center locks.
    You know the center lock DT hubs come with some pretty nifty adaptors. Very slick. That's what is being used here. Almost went ICE rotors though.....had to leave room for an 'upgrade' later ya know. No fun shooting the moon al the way sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirty dunn View Post
    Loving this bike! Came off of years on vpp and dw bikes and I have to say to anyone out there wondering if this bike can climb.....it does! No pedal kick-back, no feeling of squatting or lost energy. And very stiff. Gets full travel on the downhill, which is a welcome change.

    1x11 SRAM kit is killer! KS Lev is really nice too. thanks again Velo City!
    Glad you're enjoying it man! That's one sweet rig. Great to hear your observations of the pedaling and overall stance of the bike considering your past years and eyars on vpp designs. < thumpsups! >
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    Quote Originally Posted by Internal14 View Post
    Here it is. Finished and ready for some dirt. 27lbs. w/o pedals. Medium. Mango Tango.






    And a little extra nice touch. A little tapered plug in the frt. der. housing hole. Thought about routing the LEV housing through there, but the routing up from the bb shell wasn't sano at all.
    Wow! I love everything about this build. Absolutely stunning! Props to the shop and the owner.

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    Bike keeps getting better the more hours I have on it. Only change I made was a stem swap from a 90mm to a 100mm with a rise and removal of the spacers. Fork was the only thing I wasn't happy with but it seems to be broken in now. I weigh 220 and had to run more sag than I was used to to get small bump compliance.

    Oh, and I cooked the rear pads because of improper break-in Just impatient to ride I guess. Speaking of brakes, I might like my XT's a little better, but the modulation is superior on the XO trails and they are super easy to bleed. Ice rotors will be the next upgrade when I bend these rotors, Ice are really stiff and seem to cool things down well.

    KS LEV is well worth the $! 32 x 42 low gear is perfect for my area though a 30 tooth for the Downieville xc race might be the ticket. Never feel the need for a higher gear, and the shifting is flawless.

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