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    Quote Originally Posted by zod
    Any word on the 2011 Moto... what the changes might be? I'd like to see 142x 12 and 1.5 headset as standard.

    from the list of "things to do", i would think that 142x12 will be on the Terremoto. the head tube was tapered. why tapered won out over 1.5 i don't know, but would definately expect to see it on the TM.
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    Yeah I don't understand tapered over just going full 1. 5 but not a big deal. The Knolly Chilcotin keeps getting delayed so now I'm looking at the TM as a potential alternate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zod
    Yeah I don't understand tapered over just going full 1. 5 but not a big deal. The Knolly Chilcotin keeps getting delayed so now I'm looking at the TM as a potential alternate.
    Even if the TM comes standard with a tapered head tube, you can always do a semi-custom with a 1.5in headtube.

    That's the great thing about Ventana. The semi-custom options make it easier to have exactly the right bike for you. Also, they have top-notch customer service. Teresa has been awesome at handling my questions, and what she can't answer, Sherwood does.

    My El Ciclon is going to be semi-custom, which includes a slacker HA, shorter reach by 10mm and a front designed around a longer fork by about 14mm. My El Salt (2010 model) has lighter tubing, slacker HA, and running at 110mm rear instead of 100mm.

    There are other people who do full custom seat tube angles, top tube length, head tube angles, different tubing, etc.
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    You're preaching to the pope, I ride a Ciclon currently.
    I personally wouldn't pay extra for a 1.5 as I always run the standard steerer anyhow. Just seems like making the headset a 1.5 makes it most compatible with most forks people might be bringing into a build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zod
    Any word on the 2011 Moto... what the changes might be? I'd like to see 142x 12 and 1.5 headset as standard.
    142 x 12 is confirmed so is the Tapered, tapered won out based on market, is there really any forks out there being done in 1.5 anymore? (Not being sarcastic, genuine question, it just seems like everything is tapered)

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    True not a lot of 1.5 if any coming out as new product. Really a non-issue for me anyhow. Any word on when TM's will be ready to roll out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zod
    True not a lot of 1.5 if any coming out as new product.
    Doesn't Cannondale stick to 1.5 on all bikes?

    But it seems that for this decade the state of the art for all the interfaces is more or less set - 142x12, 15mm and 20mm, bb92, maybe some BB30, 1.5 tapered, 30.9 and 31.6 seatposts, 31.8 handlebars. Conventional derailleur lives on..

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    Looks like RockShox is still rocking 1. 5. So is Ventana moving to 31.6 for the TM? That would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zod
    Yeah I don't understand tapered over just going full 1. 5
    I think the often quoted reason is that tapered is significantly lighter overall (with stem, upper headset and cap/starnut taken into account), but not much less stiff.

    Now, lets all agree on 44/56 ZS, shall we.. Current variety is disturbing..

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    Are the 44mm fork offset numbers correct for the new 26er geometry? 2011 Fox forks are 39mm. The only fork I can think of thats close to 44mm is a Lefty.
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    He's talking the dia of the upper head tube. 44 allows room for an angleset and/or zero stack upper cup.
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krispy@go-ride.com

    ...pops a big one by releasing an adjustable pivot.
    Looks like that bit was internet rumor...but looks like Yeti might have something along these lines up their sleeves..

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