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    My pathetic life saved by El Rey

    Lame little story....but I feel it has some merit and may be the first experience I have had where I was truly grateful for 29er wheels over 26er (ie, most of the time I see pluses and minuses between the 2 over the course of a ride).

    I rode yesterday with a group, that included El Salt on his Terremoto which was a blast. Did about 20 miles with a lot of climbing and descending and the weather was perfect without a cloud in the sky so yeah, almost had to consider a long sleeve in the morning but even at 8 am there was no point.
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    On one very fast rather rocky (not large, but many....with many able to pinch flat indeed) and yesterday (post rain from last week) a very rutted single track i almost died...twice...LOL. I was flying down this portion (on my El Rey) with El Salt on his Terremoto (so i knew we were going fast) and upon the first choppy section with ruts my bike started "wandering" towards the ruts and i was pissed, and scared, and could not figure it out....before my near death experience I swore that one or both of my wheel skewers had come loose or something.....right before hitting these large ruts i yanked up on the bars and hammered across the ruts (at a lot of speed) and somehow traversed through bushes etc, jumped back into line and proceeded to blast down again.....
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    SAME THING happened at next juncture with ruts....i was shocked....almost died second time but pulled it off by barreling through/over another rut with even more random bushes/etc....after that I had enough, was scared, and low and behold had a flat front tire. I cant guarantee when it flatted (pinch flatted) but it sure could explain why i had the wandering sensation as soon as i hit off camber section......LOL.
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    So, long story short, the El Rey saved my life and I am pretty convinced (thought i wont repeat experiment with non 29er) that 29er wheels sure didn't hurt the outcome!

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    That is an incredible story...not because you had a "near death experience" twice but because you were actually riding one of your bikes!

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    Fo - You should consider adding a little more detail to this ride story. Then publishing a coffee table book

    I'm not a believer in the 29er tail...........it was your skill that got your through that technical section.

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    You could have at least included that your quick cat - like reflexes helped save your arse also ! TIG.

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    Yep, pretty much happened like Fo explained... I was chasing him, nope, that should read, trying NOT to run him over, down a fast loose section with a trail-wise rut to the left of the line. Saw him begin to drift toward the rut... then, next thing I know, he’s in the rut. Now, as we all know Fo is often in a rut, but this time I was envisioning the classic slow mo OTB’s about to happen. I think I heard a few expletives yelled, and BAM, that El Rey answered the command, nearly leaping from the jaws of the rut. Fo pushed on, regaining his speed. As we came into the next section, again with a tremendous rut running the length, the “Rey” plunged into its clutches. Again I heard something yelled, “...come on ya beatch, yee ha, yee ha!...”, again the El Rey responded.

    As the trail leveled out, we rolled to a stop. That front tire was as flat as your prom date. After a few hours, Fo had the tube replaced and the tire inflated.

    I agree, the El Rey saved the life of our much loved and respected FoShizzle. Long live Fo, Long live 29ers. Viva Ventana!
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    so... you're saying those big wheel bikes can't hold their line, eh? Must have something to do with steep head angles overcompensating for excessive trail.
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt
    Yep, pretty much happened like Fo explained...
    I can't dispute an eye witness event........

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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek
    so... you're saying those big wheel bikes can't hold their line, eh? Must have something to do with steep head angles overcompensating for excessive trail.
    if that is how you read this then yes, WITH A FLAT TIRE even 29ers have trouble holding a line. Now one could actually argue that a 26er would have been safer in this instance since with a flat/flatting tire there would be no doubt one had a flat and one would not have made such a retarded charge down the hill but instead fixed things first....given the bigger wheels however, it was simply not readily apparent (not to mention I could not let El Salt beat me! )

    Or it could all be the fact it was a Ventana and not a Turner.....perhaps thats why I will soon own 3 Ventanas

    p.s. While this adds merit to 29ers, PLEASE dont label me a zealot....I still love 26ers.....Ventana ones anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt
    After a few hours, Fo had the tube replaced and the tire inflated.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSutton1223
    That is an incredible story...not because you had a "near death experience" twice but because you were actually riding one of your bikes!
    yep.....now with that ride under the belt, I can take the next 3.5 months off

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    Awesome!

    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    almost died second time but pulled it off
    Next time if you don't pull it out of the basement, can I have your fork and wheels? Given if they survive the crash.
    Old age and treachery will always win over youth and exuberance.

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    Quote:
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    After a few hours, Fo had the tube replaced and the tire inflated.


    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt
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    After a few hours, Fo had the tube replaced and the tire inflated.




    and I should definitely point out that El Salt was not shy in critiquing my (lack of) tube replacement skillz!

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    What's a 29er ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    What's a 29er ?
    its the wheelsize one step up from the most retarded of all marketing campaigns (yes, even gheyer than carbon frames), the 650B

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    I think it's something like this........

    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    What's a 29er ?
    ....please correct me if I'm wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    yep.....now with that ride under the belt, I can take the next 3.5 months off

    that's the spirit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    yep.....now with that ride under the belt, I can take the next 3.5 months off
    Hold off and let the other one save your ass and then you can take the time off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSutton1223
    Hold off and let the other one save your ass and then you can take the time off.
    with the other one, he won't even know what is going on until he gets back to the trailhead

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    Sweet story Mr Shizzle, and well written and executed by El Salt................. I see a huge resurgence in the Ventana world, yeah baby....................

    I can say i have enjoyed the larger wheels on the DH trails, sheesh when they get a roll on, she is all tickity boo.....
    The_Lecht_Rocks: whafe - cheeers - may i offer an official apology for the wagon wheeler "dis-belief"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    and I should definitely point out that El Salt was not shy in critiquing my (lack of) tube replacement skillz!
    Good to hear the El Rey is a life saving machine. One suggestion, Tubeless!!!! Then you won't have to spend so much quality riding time on tube repair.

    Can't wait for my new Flows to get here from Red Barn! Will be running a home brew of Flat Attack, Molding Latex and Windex. Works great out in the Arizona desert.
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    Fo Head

    El Salt....do us all a favor, will ya?

    The next time you ride with Fo, can you get some more pics of him after a long, grueling climb?

    That "Fo Head" pic you got of him was priceless!

    Homers eat that schit up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Sweet story Mr Shizzle, and well written and executed by El Salt...
    "Ventana, the thinking mans bicycle."<SUP>TM</SUP>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    El Salt....get some more pics of him after a long climb?
    Yes, some of my best work. But, when you are working with a professional model (poser), its easy!
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    Ventana, the advanced thinking mans Turner...............
    The_Lecht_Rocks: whafe - cheeers - may i offer an official apology for the wagon wheeler "dis-belief"

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    Chuck Norris wouldnt have been scared..

    Wuss.


    if you flatted the front you must have hit the side of the rut square and at speed. scary way to flat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    That "Fo Head" pic you got of him was priceless!
    yeah, thanks a lot for that El Salt

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    Quote Originally Posted by trb2929
    Tubeless!!!!
    indeed.....have not tried yet is all, but do plan on it. I hear my tire/rim combo does quite well in this regard to really no reason I shouldnt try (other than laziness)

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    Good story. I remember when I first had a demo El Rey (called El Capitan back then) for a week. I was hauling down a nice flowy single track that I had ridden before many times. Unfortunately, there had been some recent trail work I was unaware of, so I hauled myself at way too high a speed into a section that for lack of a better word was shaped similar to a downhill double jump spaced 10 feet apart.

    It caught me very off guard, and I ended up nose wheelying for probably 15 feet before regaining control. All I could think was that I would have been OTB hard on smaller wheels. Since I have seen two others crash there..hard.

    Fo: you should start a 29" wheels saved my life club!
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    I'd have to sign up...........

    ........'cause I'm pretty sure they saved my sorry a$$ a time or two since I made the switch. Don't they just listen so well when you hollor at them to "stop playin in the rut and get out" I know it isn't my lame skillz that get the bike out of harms way .
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    Fo: you should start a 29" wheels saved my life club!
    One day your life will flash before your eyes, will it be worth watching??

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    I currently run the WTB DD FR rims. Not to many good reports using them tubeless. So I went with the Flows and will be running Rampages at first. Maybe some Dry X TLR down the road. Got some feedback from one of the "Super mods" that they work well in Arizona. He was also using the Flow rim.

    Checked my CC today and nothing was billed from Chad. So still looks to be a few days or weeks out on my tubeless venture. I absolutely loved the true UST stuff back on my Turner. So I hoping to get a similar result from the Stans/No Tubes rim and Rampage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trb2929
    Got some feedback from one of the "Super mods" that they work well in Arizona.
    WOW, then it must be true Only person that knows more than a SUPERMOD is tscheezy, who knows more than all the SUPERMODS put together

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    That's so wrong!!!!!
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