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    God of Sky & Thunder Came a Knockin'

    I had a nice suprise when the doorbell rang today. Mr. FexEx delivering the goods. It will be a painful week waiting as my hubs are on back order and my rims do not get here until next Friday.

    Semi-custom Zeus 16/20
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    Cannot wait to get her built up! I have everything but the wheels but I guess I kind of need those. I may have to run with 26ers just to roll! I am sure my El Ciclon won't mind.
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    Thing of beauty! What size is and how much does it weigh? I like Ventana's new rear triangle. They look beefy.
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    Me likey, and me likey the new Top Tube shape more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes View Post
    Beautiful frame. Can't wait to see it built.

    You're going to keep both the Ciclon and the Zeus?
    Thanks Stripes. My EC is over 4 years old now but I still love that bike. I actually traded in a 2001 El Saltamontes when I ordered this frame. I will keep the EC for sure as it has been my go to bike for long endurance rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunyan View Post
    Thing of beauty! What size is and how much does it weigh? I like Ventana's new rear triangle. They look beefy.
    This is a size 16inch with a size 20 inch top tube (24inch). My scale is not perfect but I keep coming in at 7.4lbs. That is probably close because Teresa told me the 16inch weighs 6.63lbs and the 20 inch weighs 7.42lbs.
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    Very nice.
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    I would love to hear how that bike rides with 26" wheels

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    Finally Got Zeus Built

    It has been a long build. Parts on back order, wheel building friend on vacation. It goes on and on but...I can at least now ride. Still waiting for Hope seat collar and I am pretty much there. I am still playing with the headset spacer length before I make my second cut on the fork post. Tomorrow is the first ride on dirt so I will know for sure.

    No droper post right now. Still debating based on my rides here in So Cal. Moslty long climbs of 8 miles in saddle, take break, drop post, fun. Maybe some day but for now, post. My build was to get a 6 plus travel bike that I could climb all day in the saddle and have some fun on the downs. She comes in right at 29lbs. Not too shabby. I will post up some ride reports tomorrow after my ride. I will be riding San Juan trail which has climbing, rocks, bumps, and lots and lots of switchbacks. I think it is a good trail to break her in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phishin Paul View Post
    It has been a long build.
    Paul, so it was you that snuck into my mind and stole my bike! LOL!!! Beautiful! Great build! Awesome!
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    Very nice build. I like the dark blue on the light blue.

    I have to say...I'm really liking these Zeus's.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Wow, just wow! Awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt View Post
    Paul, so it was you that snuck into my mind and stole my bike! LOL!!! Beautiful! Great build! Awesome!
    Yes, I was in your mind and took your every thought. You were pushing for pink hubs but we settled on blue .
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    how did you get that "Designed by Sherwood ?" i've asked for that in the past & it wasn't possible.

    i'm jealous
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    how did you get that "Designed by Sherwood ?" i've asked for that in the past & it wasn't possible.

    i'm jealous
    Lucky I guess. Not sure if it was because I did a custom build? Funny, the Zeus sticker kept pealing off so I got rid of them plus the rear triangle stickers. I think the less stickers the cleaner the look.
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    well done Paul.....that bike looks like a whole lotta fun !

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    First ride report on Zeus

    I was able to get in a solid ride yesterday on the new Zeus. I guess first, a bit about my riding style. I currently have a 2008 El Ciclon, a Siren 29er steel SS, and now the Zeus. I live in SoCal and ride mostly the mountains close to my house. Lots of ups which are sometimes fireroad, sometimes all single track. I tend to beat the living crap out of my equipment not on pupose but by just riding. I love to climb for the challenge of clearing techy sections but really, it is about the downs which we have plenty of around here.

    So, when comparing the Zeus to my older El Ciclon, I was very surprised at how much better a climber the Zeus is. Yesterday I rode San Juan which is a 22 mile route with just over 3300 feet of single track climbing. I played with both the "climb" and "trail" modes on the Fox shock for the 8 mile climb. Either setting, there is zero bob when climbing. I was very suprised to see that climbing out of the saddle is very similar to my SS when in the "climb" mode but with slightly more spinning out (more due to our cat litter-like trails this time a year). I also played with my fork settings on the climb in 120mm and 160mm. I found most of the climb was best in 120mm as the front end did get squirlly in 160mm. If i did not have a TALAS I could probably live with 160mm for climbing but it would take some getting used to.

    The bike handles switchbacks climbs about the same as the El Ciclon so no issues with the larger wheels. I did notice that on the downs I was able to "carve" similar to the feel I get on the 29er. Both my 29er and the Zeus seem to allow me to lean much more on corners on the downs. The Zeus is definately quicker that my El Ciclon on the downs and corners. Because of the newer shock, through axle fork, newer everything and 160mm travel it was a smoother ride down. I did notice flying through sections that the week before on the same trail I was a bit slower on my 29er. I had the shock in "down" mode for the decent and the bike loves to fly. Like a 29er, the bike does roll over rocks easier, but still keeps you on your toes like a 26er. I like this better personally because the 29er can take the fun out of rock sections making things too easy at times. I like having to hop up on rocks instead of just rolling into them and over.

    My only issue throughout the ride was numerous pedal strikes on rocks in tight rock gardens. I did stop at one point and put more air in my shock. It looks like I need to check my sag again but this issues does concern me. Any feedback here would be appreciated. I am using the 175mm crank arms I have always used.

    So, I only have one ride on the bike but it was a very tough test. I ride different bikes often and I can tell quickly if I like something. I am a "feeler" type of rider. I am horrible at math so don't ask me about this length or that weight, I just know when something feels right. I have been on friends' bikes and immedialty know if a hub is loose or shock mount is starting to loosen right at the feel. The Zeus is solid and it feels damn good to me. I sure had a blast yesterday. It felt like I took the best of all 3 of my bikes and put them into one. How about that marketing line. You would think I was being paid by the 650b corporation of America.
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    Great looking bike and sweet build!

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    Me too!

    That's it, I ordered mine! Semi custom Level 1 20/18, Titanium color.
    Your build, photos and review made me jump the fence... Now I am committed, I am counting down the days.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC822 View Post
    That's it, I ordered mine! Semi custom Level 1 20/18, Titanium color.
    Your build, photos and review made me jump the fence... Now I am committed, I am counting down the days.....
    Wow. A 20/18? You are like the opposite of me. I have a feeling V will see a lot of level 1 custom builds with this bike. You must be all legs. Me, short legs longer torso.

    For what it is worth, start getting parts today. Rims and tires are hard to come by right now. I am sure it will open up in a month with more options but I sure could not wait any longer. So far, the Pacenti stuff is solid and I am very pleased with the pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phishin Paul View Post
    Wow. A 20/18? You are like the opposite of me. I have a feeling V will see a lot of level 1 custom builds with this bike. You must be all legs. Me, short legs longer torso.

    For what it is worth, start getting parts today. Rims and tires are hard to come by right now. I am sure it will open up in a month with more options but I sure could not wait any longer. So far, the Pacenti stuff is solid and I am very pleased with the pick.
    Well, not really, this will be a 20" frame with a 18" seat tube, because I like a longish top tube (so I can use a short stem) but I would not fit much seatpost on a 20" seat tube....

    I have been riding a 650B El Ciclon, so I have some spare 650B rims and spare tires (Nevegal front and Neomoto 2.3 rear) that I squirreled away when I thought the 650B trend was not going to pick up. That will allow for a first build until more parts are available....

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    Thanks for the write-up and photos, Paul. Your build looks great! I'm keeping an eye on this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden boy View Post
    Thanks for the write-up and photos, Paul. Your build looks great! I'm keeping an eye on this bike.
    Thanks! I will be riding in SLO this weekend for some fun stuff. October 27 I will have time to really break in the bike. I will be riding the San Jacinto Enduro and have decided to go with Zeus. If I am going to be in the saddle all day why not have fun! I may consider riding the bike in the 140mm travel mode. I have not played with this feature yet but plan on seeing how different it handles.

    Update on ride. Mu dumb azz had way too little pressure in shock. Pedal strikes are gone.
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    hot

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    Still really digging the bike and had some fun on some flow in San Luis Obispo this past weekend. We rode a fun section "the Euks" which has some table tops and fun berms. The bike handled great and I found no issues with the bigger tires when in the air. My TALAS has decided to now be a Float with no adjustment which really sucks. Nothing like having something for a week and it has already broken.
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    Update

    I had to send my new TALAS off to Fox for repairs. My buddy loaned me his new Float since his bike is not built. This set me up for this past weekend's enduro ride up in Idyllwid, CA. 60 plus miles with 55% singletrack and the rest fire road and about 9000 plus feet climbing. Sufferfest indeed but the bike was amazing. I may be on to something here with the 29lb 160mm travel endurance bike. I keep seeing comments by people saying "160mm travel is too much for a 650b". Idiots I say. Sherwood obviously knows something

    Once again, the bike climbs very very well. Since I was on a Float the fork was set in 160mm all day. I never found the front of the bike to be too steep. Idyllwild has a lot of rock and drops so the fun factor was there for me on this bike. Maybe I am finding the bike to be so good all around due to the semi custom for me? I really like the 24 inch TT. It gives a perfect balance for me for climbing and descending. Not a big charge for level 1 custom and so worth it.

    Sorry for another rambling about the Zeus. I know there have been request for reviews so just adding some color. Solid bike for sure.
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    Nice bike you got there.

    Enjoy!


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    Great color on that bike!

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    Paul,
    Are you running also the rear shock at 160mm? Have you tried it at 140mm? Just curious how the change in travel may affect pedaling....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC822 View Post
    Paul,
    Are you running also the rear shock at 160mm? Have you tried it at 140mm? Just curious how the change in travel may affect pedaling....
    Yep, running the rear at 160mm and I have not tried the 140mm mode yet. I want to, but having too much fun on 160 right now. When I get a chance I will switch and see how it changes.
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    Phishin Paul, have you had any rub issues with your housing as it comes out of the frame? I've noticed a little rubbing where my rear derailleur housing pops out near my bottom bracket. The housing wore a little groove in the weld (where the in-frame tube is welded to the down tube) not too significant, but glad I caught it before it did. I used one of the velcro rub pieces to buffer the housing where it comes out of the frame - FYI. Haven't noticed any other rubs.

    my bike is running great, only current gripe is my XO cranks like to loosen up which obviously has nothing to do with the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eber View Post
    Phishin Paul, have you had any rub issues with your housing as it comes out of the frame? I've noticed a little rubbing where my rear derailleur housing pops out near my bottom bracket. The housing wore a little groove in the weld (where the in-frame tube is welded to the down tube) not too significant, but glad I caught it before it did. I used one of the velcro rub pieces to buffer the housing where it comes out of the frame - FYI. Haven't noticed any other rubs.

    my bike is running great, only current gripe is my XO cranks like to loosen up which obviously has nothing to do with the frame.
    No issues thus far. I did have a little rub where the rear brake line was hitting where it came off frame to the end line. Easy fix with a little racers tape to protect. I did use the velcro pieces but many have shifted already. I plan on checking regularly for rub.

    No issues with my XO cranks so far. My TALAS fork on the other hand is a different story.
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    Jealous- what's ur BB height?

    Curious as I build my v1 bruja into 650b which will be about 15"

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    Quote Originally Posted by csoskin View Post
    Curious as I build my v1 bruja into 650b which will be about 15"
    Looks to be just shy of 14".
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    Incredible and beautiful. I'm thinking about it. Question: do you have to disassemble your brake line? I don't bleed my own so I'm curious. I'm 5'7" with 30 inch inseam so probably 16/18 according to Teresa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skim500 View Post
    Incredible and beautiful. I'm thinking about it. Question: do you have to disassemble your brake line? I don't bleed my own so I'm curious. I'm 5'7" with 30 inch inseam so probably 16/18 according to Teresa.
    Front no on my build.I took my XTR off my El Ciclon because they were only 6 months old. If your brakes are new you can probably get away with a snip and install of the new banjo piece with no bleed. That is the way my brakes were new anyway. I had to get new brake line for the Zeus since It came off a 26 inch frame. They were too short for the longer top tube i am now running. So the long answer is yes you have to cut with the internal routing but it is such an effortless install. Cable goes in one end and pops right out where you need it on the far end. I am no bike mechanic but it was real easy.

    You will be fine with stand over on the 16/18 inch frame. I have a 30' inseam and have a little wiggle room when in 160mm mode. I a completely happy with the purchase.
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    Thank you.

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