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    El Gordo Pics and Matte "Raw" Aluminum Pics.

    Ran into Sherwood playing on the local lakebed (See NorCal's water issues for explanation) with his new El Gordo which is powdercoated in clear Matte. So while not a true "Raw" Aluminum it appears as such.

    Here's the full Monty...
    I believe his personal frames are 17".


    Close up of front Tri, love the look of the Flag Decal on the Raw Alu...



    This El Gordo is a 170mm spacing and clears the 4.8 Lou Tire mounted on Rolling Darryl Rims.


    Close-ups of the Matte Clear PC ie "Raw Alu"



    BB/Front Derailleur Adapter Tire Clearance Etc...



    And Per the norm, it did not take Sherwood long to get comfy and start playing around.
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    Does Ventana make the fork also? Looks like the welds match the frame.
    whatever...

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    El Gordo Pics and Matte "Raw" Aluminum Pics.

    Quote Originally Posted by steadite View Post
    Does Ventana make the fork also? Looks like the welds match the frame.
    I believe the fork is a SALSA (Per Trippower) , that gets stripped and PC'd to match.


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    Last edited by Ciclistagonzo; 02-26-2014 at 10:15 AM. Reason: Corrected Manufactuer.
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    El Gordo Pics and Matte "Raw" Aluminum Pics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciclistagonzo View Post
    I believe the fork is a Surly, that gets stripped and PC'd to match.


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    I'm fairly certain the fork is a Salsa aluminum Beargrease. It is the fork I am using also.

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    This is such a fun looking bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciclistagonzo View Post
    ...which is powdercoated in clear Matte. So while not a true "Raw" Aluminum it appears as such...
    Can you explain this? I'm not sure if I now what "powdercoated in clear Matte." really means.

    Whatever it means, I do like it.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Powdercoating is just a process. You can put color on things, or you can put a clearcoat on things. Same as wet paint. Clear matte means dull and not shiny. That finish looks super sweet btw...love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    This is such a fun looking bike.



    Can you explain this? I'm not sure if I now what "powdercoated in clear Matte." really means.

    Whatever it means, I do like it.
    OHM, El Train pretty much got it. Most powder coats are a thermo setting powder that essentially liquifies at high temp and then sets as it cools. The matte finish colors we've seen from Ventana are finished off by a clear coat layer that sets without the shiny super smooth feel hence the "matte". (akin to the matte finish on photo's vs the shiny finish). What Ventana has done here is to not add a color layer to the PC and you are seeing the color of the raw aluminum frame with the clear coat on top. I know that "Raw" frames, ie no finish placed on top, were sometimes requested or desired, but true Raw frames will oxidize, so they need to be constantly buffed and worked on to maintain the look. With this finish, especially the matte, the frame looks raw, but the oxidization should not take place.
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    i've been on Ventana frames exclusively for about 7 years . i talked w/ Sherwood at one point about an unpainted frame just to save that much weight. he wouldn't do it. so, i can see why the process now that you're talking about.
    breezy shade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciclistagonzo View Post
    OHM, El Train pretty much got it. Most powder coats are a thermo setting powder that essentially liquifies at high temp and then sets as it cools. The matte finish colors we've seen from Ventana are finished off by a clear coat layer that sets without the shiny super smooth feel hence the "matte". (akin to the matte finish on photo's vs the shiny finish). What Ventana has done here is to not add a color layer to the PC and you are seeing the color of the raw aluminum frame with the clear coat on top. I know that "Raw" frames, ie no finish placed on top, were sometimes requested or desired, but true Raw frames will oxidize, so they need to be constantly buffed and worked on to maintain the look. With this finish, especially the matte, the frame looks raw, but the oxidization should not take place.
    Thanks for the explanation. I'm definitely considering this for my next Ventana. Do you know if there is an up-charge?
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Thanks for the explanation. I'm definitely considering this for my next Ventana. Do you know if there is an up-charge?
    $55 for the finish, per V HQ.

    I believe some extra frame prep is needed. (Speculation on my part)
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    I want a polished frame.
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