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    El Comandante Creaking under load.... Mystery.....

    Need some help here. My 2012 El Comandante with the Sliders is creaking under load. I have a new chain, bottom bracket, chainring, chainring bolts, and cog/locking ring installed. All torqued correctly and professionally installed. I have determined that the only thing that could be causing the creaking are the sliders themselves. I have dismantled them, de-greased, and will re-install once I get my new wheel set.

    Has anyone else had this issue? Any recommendations for when I re-build? Grease or no grease on the bolts? Torque settings for the #6 and #5 bolts? I have a clicking torque wrench and always follow the specs. Looking for advice. Want to make sure to avoid this from happening again. I had 2,000 miles on the frame when this started. The bolts may have been over-torqued?? Not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willem3 View Post
    Need some help here. My 2012 El Comandante with the Sliders is creaking under load. I have a new chain, bottom bracket, chainring, chainring bolts, and cog/locking ring installed. All torqued correctly and professionally installed. I have determined that the only thing that could be causing the creaking are the sliders themselves. I have dismantled them, de-greased, and will re-install once I get my new wheel set.

    Has anyone else had this issue? Any recommendations for when I re-build? Grease or no grease on the bolts? Torque settings for the #6 and #5 bolts? I have a clicking torque wrench and always follow the specs. Looking for advice. Want to make sure to avoid this from happening again. I had 2,000 miles on the frame when this started. The bolts may have been over-torqued?? Not sure.

    Thanks in advance!

    Was it creaking before the new componets were installed?

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    El Comandante Creaking under load.... Mystery.....

    This is for the El Comandante Hardtail. These are the sliders used to adjust chain tension.
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    It sounds like a dry creak somewhere - - - meaning some bolt, seat rail or something is dry and begging for grease.

    Hopefully it's not the bike.

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    I'm nearly 4 years in with my Sliders and still no noises from them. Plenty from my GXP BB followed by a ticking from my Stylo Chainrings. (Grease on the spider chainring bolt tabs finaly cured it).

    But to answer your question about Torque values.

    Got these off the website FAQ, I know it states "For Suspension Bikes" but the torque values apply to the sliders too.


    #5 (6mm Allen Cap Screw) Minor pivot, upper and lower Shock bolts 90-100 inch pounds.
    #6 (8mm Allen Cap Screw) Upper Shock Bolt 150-170 inch pounds.

    One thing, I did wrong the first time, was I over torqued the 6mm bolts, and deformed the washers, had to get new washers and then torqued correctly, haven't had any issues.
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    El Comandante Creaking under load.... Mystery.....

    I weigh 235lb and my frame doesn't creak. Handlebar, seat, seat post, BB, loose crank - all have been sources, especially the seat. I do have a creak currently which comes and goes. I think it's the cleat- pedal interface.

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    El Comandante Creaking under load.... Mystery.....

    Thanks guys. Very helpful!! I think the washers are the trick. I did over torque. Rebuilding the bike with a new belt drive this week and will carefully install with the torque settings from the website.

    Happy Riding!!!


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