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    Deals on Ventanas @ CC

    http://www.competitivecyclist.com/fr...clon-3678.html

    amongst others. any irresponsible speculation on the rationale of such deep discounts?
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    Probably has to do with a mix-up between plurality and possession.
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    It could only mean one of two things. CC is no longer a Ventana dealer or 2011 holds some BIG changes in the Ventana lineup. Would their be any reason to sell of inventory otherwise? Since Ventana really doesn't do the model year thing then holdover inventory would not be an issue. Maybe someone in the know will chim in.

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    I ordered an El Ciclon from them when they first went on sale last week. They gave me an expected ship date of 11/19. This makes me think that they do not have it in stock and that the discount may be coming from Ventana. Sounds like your option #2 is probably correct.

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    The punctuation error in the title has been corrected; my apologies to the Grammar Police.

    This is really going to drive down the price of used frames...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjn1014
    This is really going to drive down the price of used frames...
    Nothing new in this economy.....the Feds have driven down the value of the dollar. I just moved from the lower middle class to the working poor.

    But I would like to know what's cooking over at HQ's.........I'm not going to speculate but I have my fingers crossed.

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    Rare Blowout Pricing on Ventanas

    this is the bargain thread from last year. just two weeks earlier. seems to be a good time for a blow out and that the big v is running it every year. last year's big band was the sliding dropouts and the belt drive. i just love ventana's small changes policiy - your bike's never out of date
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life
    Maybe someone in the know will chim in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader
    Sorry, I swore nothing would leave the gondola

    the plot thickens....

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    the plot thickens....
    Actually, I didn't swear to anything, but its not my place to say...Contruction and customer service are top shelf and that trumps advertising, hype, jargon and lingo any day of the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader
    Actually, I didn't swear to anything, but its not my place to say...Contruction and customer service are top shelf and that trumps advertising, hype, jargon and lingo any day of the week.

    ... I totally respect that. Just wondering what it is

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    Well whatever it is, if anything, I for one hope it somehow relates to the return of El Patron!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwitte
    Well whatever it is, if anything, I for one hope it somehow relates to the return of El Patron!!
    I'm sure if you ask Sherwood will build you an El Patron........

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    Yeah, I know...and I may do just that!

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    Split P?
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    Tapered head tubes since all the fork mfg's seem to be headed in that direction?

    30.9 seatpost? I wish my bike had one. My seat tube tapers down at the top to make it 27.2, Is this on all the bikes or because of my 23' frame size?

    Maybe CC needs cash.
    Maybe Ventana needs cash.

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    HT that accepts tapered forks !

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff in Bend
    Tapered head tubes since all the fork mfg's seem to be headed in that direction?

    No doubt , I think this is inevitable... though personally I'm still rollin just fine on straight HT's designed for the 1.125 " headset . TIG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjn1014
    Split P?
    Split Pivot El Rey. Where do I place my deposit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trb2929
    Split Pivot El Rey. Where do I place my deposit?

    You mean ABP? I read the other day that Trek won the patent battle on that one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    You mean ABP? I read the other day that Trek won the patent battle on that one....
    So what's morewood going to do then. Kick over royalties to both DW and Trek?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trb2929
    So what's morewood going to do then. Kick over royalties to both DW and Trek?

    That's what I was wondering too... no idea on that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    That's what I was wondering too... no idea on that...
    I would think if the split pivot falls under the ABP patent. DW would have to give up his design or provide a royalty to TREK. Similar to what DT did with the HL design. Will be interesting to see how this progresses and what other manufactures end having to do or redo for some. Devnci is also a SP design. I don't know that TREK and SP have issues. Just commenting on there could be an infringement issue. From an untrained eye like mine. ABP & SP sure look a lot alike.

    Still I would not mind seeing a 120 mm 69 degree SP El Rey.
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    DW was awarded the Split Pivot patent, Trek was awarded the ABP patent, they are similar but different enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgerat
    DW was awarded the Split Pivot patent, Trek was awarded the ABP patent, they are similar but different enough.
    http://split-pivot.com/Weagle%20Spli...%207717212.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by edgerat
    DW was awarded the Split Pivot patent, Trek was awarded the ABP patent, they are similar but different enough.

    Apparently Trek challenged the spilt pivot pattent and won... http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/sho...ht=split+pivot


    anyhow... it would be cool to get SP on Ventanas...

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