More to the point - anyone tried this and had a failure? That's what I'm really looking for...
Even though Titanium is less noble, whenever coupled with Aluminum or Magnesium which have a higher susceptibility to galvanic corrosion if not properly treated will cause some corrosion. Ventana pivots are stainless steel so using a Titanium bolt could cause a corrosion situation. Titanium is gheyP Fradale said:I have not used them on the suspension pivots but I have used them on the brake rotors on my motorcycle. Despite having the proper anti-seize there was (suspected) electron transfer and the bolts failed, luckily at rest and not on the road.
other than "Titanium is ghey", didn't understand but boy u r sexy when u use big wordsmtnbiker4life said:Even though Titanium is less noble, whenever coupled with Aluminum or Magnesium which have a higher susceptibility to galvanic corrosion if not properly treated will cause some corrosion. Ventana pivots are stainless steel so using a Titanium bolt could cause a corrosion situation. Titanium is ghey
galvanic corrosion is a very technical subject that sometime can't be broken down into simple english...........FoShizzle said:other than "Titanium is ghey", didn't understand but boy u r sexy when u use big words
In the time it's taken you two ghey asses to answer my question - I've already installed, ridden, broken and fixed my Salty.mtnbiker4life said:galvanic corrosion is a very technical subject that sometime can't be broken down into simple english...........
That's it. I'm doing it.FoShizzle said:please tell me you are kidding.....did you mean to click on the weight weenie forum? you shoudl be ashamed of yourself asking such a question on this forum and you probably made Sherwood throw up a little in his mouth with that question
doh! please tell me now that you have a ride under your belt today you are no longer considering this nonsense......dont MAKE me have tscheezy come over here and tell you even more shortcomings of your idea!imridingmybike said:That's it. I'm doing it.
Thus far the short cumings appear to be it turns you guys ghey and the *possibility* of galvanic corrosion - which considering it's Ti and on a bike is a GIVEN.FoShizzle said:doh! please tell me now that you have a ride under your belt today you are no longer considering this nonsense......dont MAKE me have tscheezy come over here and tell you even more shortcomings of your idea!
That's great I expect a full report and post the pictures...........Ti can be an expensive drug. Ti definitely has its place......we use it a lot in aerospace. Use it wisely grasshopperimridingmybike said:Thus far the short cumings appear to be it turns you guys ghey and the *possibility* of galvanic corrosion - which considering it's Ti and on a bike is a GIVEN.
My thoughts are with the exception of the shock mount bolts, all shear loads are applied to frame fittings (that Sherwood so thoroughly designed) and that the pivot bolts are only under tension. Meaning worst case scenario, given Ti flexes a bit more than steel (per same design, volume, whatever) my pivots *might* come lose more often. That is IF I don't proprly treat all interfaces (read: Locktite - just like my Phil Wood Ti BB).
And considering how this little item so quickly enflames the doctrinaires, and condsidering my iconoclastic tendancies - It's DONE. I'm doing it.
:thumbsup:
Weight savings onlyFoShizzle said:will somebody please tell me what the point of TiGheynium bolts are? Not trying to be a jerk, as hard as it is, but I struggle to understand the motivation.
Is it really for weight savings? I guess if ALL bolts were replaced with TiGheynium versions and bike was XC-ish it would be "safe" so just looking for rationale
really? consider it done :thumbsup: Just ordered a Ti-spoked wheelset too!The Squeaky Wheel said:Weight savings only
I'd guestimate that replacing all the pivots and shock mount hardware with Ti would save 1/2-2/3 of a pound.
Yes, Titanium weighs roughly 40% less than Steel. I would think for high stress areas, steel is a much better application. I know I snapped my Snycros Ti post off a little kicker, and Ti bolts at shock mounts would be pretty damn lame!FoShizzle said:will somebody please tell me what the point of TiGheynium bolts are? Not trying to be a jerk, as hard as it is, but I struggle to understand the motivation.
Is it really for weight savings? I guess if ALL bolts were replaced with TiGheynium versions and bike was XC-ish it would be "safe" so just looking for rationale
I tiodized pink Ti shock mount bolts and brake rotor bolts for some pro dh women who saw the pink bolts on the wife's Motolight at the 05 National Championships at Mammoth. As for the Syncros post, did you actually snap the post, or did the bonded head separate?snowdrifter said:Yes, Titanium weighs roughly 40% less than Steel. I would think for high stress areas, steel is a much better application. I know I snapped my Snycros Ti post off a little kicker, and Ti bolts at shock mounts would be pretty damn lame!
The shaft broke, actually it kind of folded in half :eekster: I had to climb out of the Demo Forest with no post:madman:Vader said:I tiodized pink Ti shock mount bolts and brake rotor bolts for some pro dh women who saw the pink bolts on the wife's Motolight at the 05 National Championships at Mammoth. As for the Syncros post, did you actually snap the post, or did the bonded head separate?
Here's some more Ti for you non believer's:thumbsup: These are hip, knee, and shoulder implants used in high stress areas. They do break, but so do CoCr and stainlees steel implants
Is this your post?snowdrifter said:The shaft broke, actually it kind of folded in half :eekster: I had to climb out of the Demo Forest with no post:madman:
I'm not a complete non believer, I tune pinch bolts and crapp like that with Ti, and Aluminum bolts. I just stopped there, IMO it's not worth the money per weight savings, not too mention the headache finding the right sizes, and the risk of snapping one on the trail, no thanks.
Looks to be the same type of failure, but my post is long gone! I actually talked syncros into a new post at $50 cost, and then sold the MOFO for $100Vader said:
Yep, those look yummy. I really liked the stainless inserts on the dropouts.......Ciclistagonzo said:You mean like these? 5.65lbs 4" travel frame, built in 2000. Geez 'woods has always been ahead of his time.