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    Alpino 650B/27.5" 120mm Travel Frame Pics

    Here are some just shot pics of the new frame from the folks at Ventana.

    I only had a few minutes to take the pics before heading off to work so I don't have geo #'s yet. Will see about getting something later this week.

    Complete Frame:

    Alpino

    Top tube and new cable stops, Tapered Headtube of course, the TT has the Zeus hump but less pronouced curve.

    Head tube-Top tube

    Second set of Cable "stops" more like clamps actually.

    New  Cable Stops

    My favorite Detail, Check out the new 3D Rockers and the scalloping which is done on both the outside and inside.

    Aplino 120 Rockers

    (Added Shot)

    Alpino from straight on the side:

    Alpino Side

    This particular frame is Chad's from Redbarn, so it's got his signature Black/Black paint.
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    BitterSweet! Hard to concentrate on keepin the love for my Bastardo when taunted by this new beauty.......
    Wait,who did he tell you that?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    BitterSweet! Hard to concentrate on keepin the love for my Bastardo when taunted by this new beauty.......
    Lack of funds makes it easy for me.

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    You guys (Ventana) are just bad...! Look, I am already saving my pennies for a Zeus, and now you tempt me with this? Love my El Salt (my third frame over many, many years now), but I envisioned selling / trading that towards the Zeus. Keeping my Terremoto, and yes Sherwood made a very good point for that one "one bike", the Zeus could be it. But, now like I said, they go and toss this beauty into the mix. Maybe I "need" the stable to consist of the Alpino and Terremoto? Or, should it be a Zeus and El Salt?

    Bikes are fun, and Ventana is amazing, even if they can make a grown man cry!
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    Here are the GEO's for both bikes for a 15" frame which might help you decide EL Salt

    Alpino -

    Frame Size 15"

    Seat Tube 15.5
    Top Tube 22.35
    Head Tube 3.50
    Wheel Base 43.72
    Stand Over 29.47
    Head Angle 68.5
    Seat Angle 73.5
    Reach 16.10
    Stack 22.64

    BB height 13.2" Chainstays 17" Fork Offset 44mm Fork Length 514mm

    Zeus -

    Frame Size 15"

    Seat Tube 15.21
    Top Tube 22.47
    Head Tube 4.38
    Wheel Base 44.57
    Standover 29.58
    Head Angle 67.6
    Seat Angle 74
    Reach 16.10
    Stack 23.32


    BB Height 13.4" Chainstays 17" Fork Offset 44mm Fork Length 534mm

    I got those geo numbers for the Alpino in January so they might have changed but that is what I have. If I was going to get one I'd get the Alpino for the simple fact that I don't need the extra travel and like the lower bottom bracket. However I currently have an El Bastardo with 5.5" travel but talked with Sherwood who said I could have the shock modded to drop down to
    2" stroke from 2.25' and change my rockers to 4" and since I am running a 130mm fork I'd get a slacker HA on my Bastard which is something I want because currently my Bastard has a 70 degree HA and I'd like to drop it to 69 degree's. According to Sherwood doing this change would accomplish that goal and also drop my BB height lower which is something I want as well.

    Chuck

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    As a declared weightweenie I must ask, do you happen to know the weight of the Alpino?

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    Alpino 650B/27.5" 120mm Travel Frame Pics

    Sorry, I did not get a chance to weigh it.
    -Aaron G.

    "Before D.W., "anti-squat" was referred to as pedal feedback."

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    Quote Originally Posted by doccoraje View Post
    As a declared weightweenie I must ask, do you happen to know the weight of the Alpino?
    Not sure about the Zeus or Alpino but my 16" El Bastardo completed bikes weigh's 27.6lbs with pedals. It isn't some crazy light build either. Stan's Crest tubeless wheelset with Chris King hubs. X9 front, X0 back, X9 grip shifters, 3 x 9 setup, SLX crankset, Chris King BB, Headset, Thompson Stem and seatpost, Ritchey Alloy bars and WTB Pure V saddle. So you can see these bikes can be made much lighter than my build. I am very happy to be in the 27 lb range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by procos View Post
    Lack of funds makes it easy for me.
    3 teenage daughters, still at home/in school, do the same for me .....

    Waiting for some info from Ventana on our swap deal.
    Wait,who did he tell you that?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    3 teenage daughters, still at home/in school, do the same for me .....

    Waiting for some info from Ventana on our swap deal.
    Cool just let me know when you find out. I sent you an email but now I know what you are waiting on and I'll just sit tight until I hear from you.

    Chuck

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    Yeah, talking to them about new bearing swap while they're off bike.
    Wait,who did he tell you that?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Yeah, talking to them about new bearing swap while they're off bike.
    Is it something I should pursue as well. What are the benefits of changing?

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    PM on our alternate method so we don't distract from this thread.
    Wait,who did he tell you that?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    PM on our alternate method so we don't distract from this thread.
    Good idea. Check your email at your leisure.

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    I spoke with Sherwood last week about the lower standover top tube option, using that top tube the standover would be 28.2 for the Alpino and 28.6 for the Zeus, and I like the way it looks more than the standard tube.
    Quote Originally Posted by procos View Post
    Here are the GEO's for both bikes for a 15" frame which might help you decide EL Salt

    Alpino -

    Frame Size 15"

    Seat Tube 15.5
    Top Tube 22.35
    Head Tube 3.50
    Wheel Base 43.72
    Stand Over 29.47
    Head Angle 68.5
    Seat Angle 73.5
    Reach 16.10
    Stack 22.64

    BB height 13.2" Chainstays 17" Fork Offset 44mm Fork Length 514mm

    Zeus -

    Frame Size 15"

    Seat Tube 15.21
    Top Tube 22.47
    Head Tube 4.38
    Wheel Base 44.57
    Standover 29.58
    Head Angle 67.6
    Seat Angle 74
    Reach 16.10
    Stack 23.32


    BB Height 13.4" Chainstays 17" Fork Offset 44mm Fork Length 534mm

    I got those geo numbers for the Alpino in January so they might have changed but that is what I have. If I was going to get one I'd get the Alpino for the simple fact that I don't need the extra travel and like the lower bottom bracket. However I currently have an El Bastardo with 5.5" travel but talked with Sherwood who said I could have the shock modded to drop down to
    2" stroke from 2.25' and change my rockers to 4" and since I am running a 130mm fork I'd get a slacker HA on my Bastard which is something I want because currently my Bastard has a 70 degree HA and I'd like to drop it to 69 degree's. According to Sherwood doing this change would accomplish that goal and also drop my BB height lower which is something I want as well.

    Chuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt View Post
    You guys (Ventana) are just bad...! Look, I am already saving my pennies for a Zeus, and now you tempt me with this? Love my El Salt (my third frame over many, many years now), but I envisioned selling / trading that towards the Zeus. Keeping my Terremoto, and yes Sherwood made a very good point for that one "one bike", the Zeus could be it. But, now like I said, they go and toss this beauty into the mix. Maybe I "need" the stable to consist of the Alpino and Terremoto? Or, should it be a Zeus and El Salt?

    Bikes are fun, and Ventana is amazing, even if they can make a grown man cry!
    I think the Zeus would be the perfect Mammoth bike if you have to do some climbing, but that's just me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough View Post
    I think the Zeus would be the perfect Mammoth bike if you have to do some climbing, but that's just me...
    I hear ya brother!
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    Quote Originally Posted by doccoraje View Post
    As a declared weightweenie I must ask, do you happen to know the weight of the Alpino?
    I just picked up my 21" Alpino this morning.......WOW, it's a really nice looking frame. I got a nice instructional package for the cable runs. I can post the weight when I back to the man cave.

    So my frame has 142x12mm drop outs and frame weight is without axle but with cable clamps and seat post clamp. A respectable 7.1 lbs
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    Salt, SoCal and Zeus are like peanut butter and jelly.

    I look forward to seeing this new Alpino built up.
    "Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul".

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    Nice.

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    holy cow....this is going to be fun.

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    Now on the Ventana website: Alpino | Ventana Mountain Bikes USA
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    Congratulations on an aweome frame!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life View Post
    So my frame has 142x12mm drop outs and frame weight is without axle but with cable clamps and seat post clamp. A respectable 7.1 lbs
    Thanks, I also got the weight for the 17 from Teresa, 6.4 lbs translated to gr 2905. Not weightweenie, but, not bad at all!
    Chad's 19 6.81 lbs
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    Alpino 650B/27.5" 120mm Travel Frame Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by doccoraje View Post
    Thanks, I also got the weight for the 17 from Teresa, 6.4 lbs translated to gr 2905. Not weightweenie, but, not bad at all!
    Chad's 19 6.81 lbs
    With or without shock?

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