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    2012 El Saltamontes Pics

    Here's some pics of the 2012 El Saltamontes.

    This Particular frame is a 15" Merdedes Blue with a Polished rear end.
    I weighed it as is with seatpost color etc. 6.29 lbs.

    Quick rundown of this frame:

    Taper Headtube,
    PF30 BB
    30.9 Seatpost
    New Pivot Location and Pivot
    2" Stroke RP23
    External Cable Routing under TT
    Straight TT with Tubular Seattube Gusset.
    Non-Modular 10x135 Dropouts, the swingarm is unique to the Salt. (lighter)
    New Rockers with the 22mm spacing for the upper Shock Shaft.

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    Taper Headtube (The color looks closest to actual in this shot)
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    2" Stroke RP23, and 2:1 Rockers

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    Polished rear swingarm is nearly impossible to capture correctly!
    PF30 BB.

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    New Salty Specific dropouts with cut out window...

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    Round Tubes for the Seatstays and ovalized for the chainstays...

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    Curvy rocker goodness

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    One more:
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    -Aaron G.

    "Before D.W., "anti-squat" was referred to as pedal feedback."

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    Sweet powdercoat.
    Get it unlocked.

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    Sweet.


    (You sure you used the right hardware for those rear pivots? )
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Pretty. No internal cable routing for the Salt? It's still a very pretty bike though. Olé!
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    nice!

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    best looking "new" ventana yet

    I hope I can get an El Rey with that TT

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    Very nice, it's like the best of both worlds, old school look with new pivots and parts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrider View Post
    best looking "new" ventana yet
    I would have to agree. Although, I am very concerned with the frame weight....6.29 lbs for a 15 inch frame. So what would a 21 inch frame weigh est. 8 lbs......really for a XC frame. I thought part of these new changes was weight reduction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life View Post
    I would have to agree. Although, I am very concerned with the frame weight....6.29 lbs for a 15 inch frame. So what would a 21 inch frame weigh est. 8 lbs......really for a XC frame. I thought part of these new changes was weight reduction?
    "Really? Really? REALLY?! Really?!" - The Miz

    You seriously think a couple of inches of thin walled alu tubing is going to weigh 1.75 lbs?
    This modern frame weighs the same as my old Ti perch equipped Bushing Salty. (18").
    -Aaron G.

    "Before D.W., "anti-squat" was referred to as pedal feedback."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciclistagonzo View Post
    "Really? Really? REALLY?! Really?!" - The Miz

    You seriously think a couple of inches of thin walled alu tubing is going to weigh 1.75 lbs?
    This modern frame weighs the same as my old Ti perch equipped Bushing Salty. (18").
    Not serious, I clearly stated est. which means I have no idea but knowing the weight of the smallest frame being est. 6.29 lbs (including seat post) one can say the largest frame could weigh est. 8.0 lbs. Add up the difference in length of seat tube, top tube, down tube and head tube.....could be 1 - 1.75 lbs. I know Ventana doesn't publish weights and folks that purchase Ventana frames look at the entire package not just one parameter (weight).


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    Love the Mercedes Blue. I hope that one day I can ride a Mercedes Blue Ventana of my own .

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    now THAT is what I've been wanting to see..

    I'll start buying lottery tickets now in hopes for a 650b "Bastardamontes"...

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    ahhhh, sweet. now, if you could only get a 120mm rocker for it...

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    My large is 6.6 pounds same 2012 El Salt

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    I second the 120mm rocker thing.

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    It would be perfect with 120mm

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    Not to harp on this too much but I really think the Salty, in its current incarnation, would be perfect as a 120mm trail bike. It's often reviewed as too heavy for XC race and quite honestly that's what the Fuego was for, right?
    I am already running a 120mm Reba with 20mm TA (I think the stiffness of this frame warrants it, IMHO) and that extra 20mm really does open up this bike.
    What would it involve, design-wise? Would it be viable?
    All those in favour, say 'aye'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MangoTangoZach View Post
    My large is 6.6 pounds same 2012 El Salt
    That's good to know.....so an Extra Large most likely weighs in a 6.8 - 7.0 lbs. Post up some pictures of your build, Ole'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubble View Post
    Not to harp on this too much but I really think the Salty, in its current incarnation, would be perfect as a 120mm trail bike. It's often reviewed as too heavy for XC race and quite honestly that's what the Fuego was for, right?
    I am already running a 120mm Reba with 20mm TA (I think the stiffness of this frame warrants it, IMHO) and that extra 20mm really does open up this bike.
    ^^^ Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubble View Post
    Not to harp on this too much but I really think the Salty, in its current incarnation, would be perfect as a 120mm trail bike. It's often reviewed as too heavy for XC race and quite honestly that's what the Fuego was for, right?
    I am already running a 120mm Reba with 20mm TA (I think the stiffness of this frame warrants it, IMHO) and that extra 20mm really does open up this bike.
    What would it involve, design-wise? Would it be viable?
    All those in favour, say 'aye'!
    Ran my Salty at 120mm in the front. It ruled. It would have been fine at 110mm to match the rear but it's a great short travel trail bike that way.
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    Drop Dead Gorgeous......

    .....that's about all I can say ! TIG.

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    Second that dop dead gorgeous comment. But.. is this a custom built frame? Or do not all frames in the 2012 lineup get the hump-back look?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonoskar View Post
    Second that dop dead gorgeous comment. But.. is this a custom built frame? Or do not all frames in the 2012 lineup get the hump-back look?
    Custom color maybe, and the polished rear for sure. But design wise, no, the Salty was always going to be Straight and butted tubes.
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    agreed...

    Now that's what all the new style frames should look like. The hump just doesn't do the frame any justice.

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    So purdy! A custom El Salt would be a hoot. Hmmm...

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