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    Whole Enchilada in May?

    Any guesses on how early Whole Enchilada may open up? I know it's too early to know 100% but any educated guesses would be appreciated. I'm considering a trip in May but wasn't sure how early or late to go.

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    Moab is melting out fast, but it is rare that the WE is rideable in May. If it happens any year, this is the year - the ridges are already bare in the La Sals.

    Of course, a 30 inch storm or 4 would change that.
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    Thanks Chuky. I was wondering whether your winter has been as dry as California's. Guess we'll have to see how things play out this spring.

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    Going to be out there at the beginning of May so I'm watching the weather closely and praying for warth weather and no more storms. It's the only time I can make it and I'd really like to do the WE.

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    Same we have a group ride planned for the WE but we might start at Hazard- seems likely to be clear from there if this weather holds.

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    It is possible to be up there by May, but the problem is that Burro is dark and narrow and the light does not get in there. Hence, the snow can sit down in there for a long time. The mountain will look dry, but the snow will be 3 feet drifts on the burro trail. Its snowing up there right now, but the week looks like it will warm fast. Check with the bike shops around early May and they can give you some good info.

    Burro is not a lot of fun with snow drifts on it. You end up hiking the whole way and there is no flow. Burro is more likely to be running in mid june, unless the temperatures keep running warm like they have been. It has been spring in Moab for a month now. The season is running warm and the mountain will likely be running a month earlier if the trend continues.

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    Thanks Punta. I'll hope for the best and will just watch the Utah forum as we get closer to May.

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    Probably HazArd down would be doable.

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    Last year Hazard was not open at the end of May. The trail was muddy. And was almost too cold. The wind was blowing, and I was wishing I had my jacket. 30 min later I was ok. I wonder how much colder it is at the top. Do the trees act as a wind break?

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    Super cold up at 11,000 feet on top of burro in a narrow canyon that does not see a lot of sun even in the summer.

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    What are the chances of Hazard down being rideable in early April?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzints7 View Post
    What are the chances of Hazard down being rideable in early April?
    Not good. I rode LPS Saturday and it was awesome. Yesterday and today it snow/hailed. Not awesome.

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    Man I was really hoping to ride WE in May as well. I'm planning on spending a week in Moab in mid May.

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    Early June? Trip planned for first week of June to Durango, Moab and Keystone.


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    If you can do hazard down, that will be awesome as thats the best part. I have friends who'd rather skip burro and start at hazard. If you can, try and do the whole thing. Heres a map of hazard down
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    Thanks, weather has been a roller-coaster. Hopefully we have some luck and it dries up. Thanks for the map.

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    Anybody ride Hazard down or have an update on trail conditions? Heading out on Monday, hoping the down part of the Enchilada.

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    Shuttles were going as high as UPS last weekend. Then snow wiped out LPS/UPS. Got LPS back a few days later. I suspect UPS might be back now too.

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    kokopelli down as of today.

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    Thanks for the info!

    It looks like we are going to have to pick between Mag 7 and whatever portion of TWE is open. Any thoughts? 2 Days riding with a possible 1/2 day on the way out of town. Thinking Amasa Back and Barlett Wash on day one. TWE or Mag 7 on day 2.

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    Depends what you prefer I guess. Mag7 is harder physically and longer if you ride all the way to Portal.

    Also, If you like tech, you can easily spend 4+ hours on Amasa if you include the look out, pot hole, rockstacker, Jacksons...

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    Thanks Jwind for the insight.

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    ride report

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    Anybody ride Hazard down or have an update on trail conditions? Heading out on Monday, hoping the down part of the Enchilada.
    Don't forget to post your ride report when you return!

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    snowed again this weekend. Hazard is still a no go, but warm weather is coming.

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    California got nailed on Friday so maybe it was the same storm. Looks like some high pressure will be coming our way, so hopefully it'll melt things down. Thanks for the updates. Can't wait to get back on Amasa's network of trails too and try Mag 7. Are there any other technical trails around Moab similar to rockstacker/Jacksons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mealsonwheels View Post
    Are there any other technical trails around Moab similar to rockstacker/Jacksons?
    Portal would be the obvious answer. Ride over from Gemini or do the whole Mag7 to make it that much sweeter.

    Weather looks awesome and warm. With any luck we'll be on hazard soon.

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    Try the portal trail. A nice loop is starting at poison spider Mesa trail head then descending the portal trail. I have ridden Jackson's but not rock stacker. Portal trail is a easier than Jackson's but has some tetchy spots Keith tons of exposure. Check out the ride report below
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    Portal it is. Thanks for the advice. Rock stacker seemed easy compared to Jackson's, but really fun and flowy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mealsonwheels View Post
    Portal it is. Thanks for the advice. Rock stacker seemed easy compared to Jackson's, but really fun and flowy.
    I'd argue just the opposite. While there is once section on Jacksons that out-classes everything on that ride, I think Rockstacker is more consistently difficult Either way, both are touch and Amasa>RS>Jacksons remains one of my favorite rides.

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    Sorry, I was thinking of pothole arch not rockstacker. Yeah, rock stacker was technical although I felt like there were a couple higher consequence sections on jacksons. Both trails really pushed me.

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    Rode up Hazard the other day. Got about 1/2 way up before things got messy. Messy as in muddy, not snowy.

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    I'm headed to Moab a week from today, so next Thursday. Does anyone know how the snow is to ride the whole
    Enchilada? Can you get to burro pass? How far up can you go? d think this year I'd have my best chances for riding this in april.
    THANKS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bplaizier View Post
    I'm headed to Moab a week from today, so next Thursday. Does anyone know how the snow is to ride the whole
    Enchilada? Can you get to burro pass? How far up can you go? d think this year I'd have my best chances for riding this in april.
    THANKS!
    riding from Burro Pass down 1 week from today will be completely impossible
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    Quote Originally Posted by bplaizier View Post
    I'm headed to Moab a week from today, so next Thursday. Does anyone know how the snow is to ride the whole
    Enchilada? Can you get to burro pass? How far up can you go? d think this year I'd have my best chances for riding this in april.
    THANKS!
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    Any update on Hazard? We'll be riding that area Friday, wondering where to start from...

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    Shuttles were running to top of Kokopelli section, which is bottom of Hazard, on Sunday.

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    95 degrees in town today.

    Any chance for Hazard this weekend?

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    I'm riding this trail friday, I'll let you know how hi I can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bplaizier View Post
    I'm riding this trail friday, I'll let you know how hi I can get.
    I got like 3 feet of air.

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    We'll be checking it out tomorrow.. Was really hoping to get Hazard in, but sounds like it's still a few days off. Any updates from this crowd?

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    I'll be out there in a couple weeks; it sounds very likely for Hazard county to be good. I'm not going to hold my breath for anything else being dry enough up high, but if Schuman or Burro happen to dry out, that would be sweet.

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    Rode kokopelli today, couldn't go much higher because of the big rain storm yesterday. The tral would have been completely dry except for yesterdays big rain storm. I imagine hazard will be open soon. What a fun trail.

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    Thanks for all the updates guys- our trip is planned for this coming Saturday the 5th. I mean come on whats Cinco de Mayo without trying to kill yourself just once? Sober no less too.

    We might have to figure something out if we can't at least shuttle to Kokopelli.

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    Subscribed ... Will be there week of May 14 and have my fingers crossed

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    All be there for the 1st time, may 24-28... Hoping for warm dry weather !

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    Quote Originally Posted by rz79 View Post
    All be there for the 1st time, may 24-28... Hoping for warm dry weather !
    Us too same dates. Its gotta be pretty dang dry by the end of the month. Where you guys staying/camping? Since that's memorial weekend I'm having a tough time finding camp ground vacancy in town. We may have to rough it on BLM.


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    Red stone lodge bro... It was hard to find a room, so I know camp sites are prolly as scarce if not even worse

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    Rode Hazard today from town. Totally dry. Road to Warner Lake rumored to open tomorrow, Friday May 4th.

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    It's good to know the road from town is totally dry. I was worried about that. Thanks, man.

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