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    Thunder Cassidy Loop Suggestions

    Hello Utah MTBRs,

    I'm looking for your input on the best loop possible in the Red Canyon area.

    Thunder is a must, looking to add on. 25-35 miles is OK. We live for 6-7 hours in the saddle

    So far, I have this loop going, but please shoot holes in it, and suggest the best flow and route

    1. Leave Shuttle Vehicle at Casto trailhead on the dirtroad.
    2. Drive to Coyote Hollow Trailhead
    3. Ride Thunder Mtn (should be more DH in this direction?)
    4. Ride Red Canyon paved trail or US12 to Cassidy Trailhead
    5. Ride Cassidy to Casto
    6. End at Shuttle vehichle parked at Casto trailhead

    A few questions.

    Would it be better to ride Casto to Cassidy, then over to Thunder Mtn, leaving a vehicle at Thunder Mtn lower trailhead?

    Would Losee be a better choice than Casto?

    You replies are much appreciated, thanks!
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    I like the following:

    Park at the bottom of Thunder.
    Ride down US12 for a mile and turn right on the road to Casto
    Ride to the Casto trailhead
    Head up Casto to Cassidy trail
    Ride Cassidy trail all the way to Red Canyon/Hwy 12
    Ride up the bike path along Hwy 12 to the turnoff to Thunder
    Ride Thunder and end up at the car.

    We did it in about 6 hours and there was no shuttle involved.
    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    Thanks TSCheezy,

    Do you feel the Cassidy trail flows better riding from Casto, back to US-12?

    Shuttling is not an issue, we have 2 trucks. If it makes no sense to shuttle, then so be it, just looking for the fun factor.
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    There are some serious climbs in either direction, but I personally think it's a bit nicer climbing up Casto than up Cassidy from US12. Also, riding down Casto or Losee is a waste of elevation imo since they are wide and boring compared to Cassidy. Casto and Losee often have horse traffic too, so bombing down them is a recipe for user conflicts. Going up Casto and along Cassidy to US12 is a nice way to go and a fine loop in itself.

    Here is a post I did a while back about the whole loop:

    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Ok, I may have exaggerated a little when I said that Casto, Cassidy, AND Thunder Mountain may make a pleasant day when taken all together. Barny and I just did the loop and it took a good 5-6 hours with few stops, and we aren't exactly slow. I sort of wonder now how I did both so comfortably last time...

    Anyway, on to Barny-mania.

    Climbing Casto Canyon through the stunning fall foliage:



    Up higher, in the shales and siltstone:







    Cruising through the Pines. Butch Cassidy supposedly sought refuge from the law in these draws...



    Up and down, up and down, through canyons and over ridges, over and over. Some pretty rocky, loose stuff too. Fun.





    After many miles we emptied out into Red Canyon, and then begin the long climb to Thunder Mountain. The hoodoos announce your arrival at last:



    Barny dons the gear for the final descents:





    Check out the trail climbing again in the background:



    On one of the last ridges down Thunder Mountain:



    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    Thanks Cheezy, nice looking ride partner you got there, way 2 go..
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    This is gonna rule.

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    T is correct, IMO. No shuttle needed. Park at the bottom of the canyon, ride out Casto or Losee, descend Cassidy, climb the bike path to Thunder Mountain, head back down.

    Casto/Cassidy will beat you down, but the TM loop is easy by most anybody's definition. The bike path to the dirt road is a breeze. There are a few little beast climbs for the first few miles of TM, but nothing particularly tough.

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    Cool.

    Last question,

    Is it worth doing Casto vs Losee?

    Casto connects to more of Cassidy, wondering if that's a don't miss part of Cassidy?
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    JMH, no link to Transition on your sig?

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    I've only ridden Casto going up and Losee going down. I remember Losee being looser: deep dust and decomposed rock. It gets mostly horse traffic and is a churned up trench. Casto is an ATV trail and so despite there being some wheel ruts, they are mostly cleaned out and rideable. Also, if you were to climb Losee you would miss some cool stuff at the top of Casto and you would skip a whole section of Cassidy which is very pretty (in fact, the first 5 pics I posted above are Casto and Cassidy before the Losee junction).
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    Another option

    When I rode it, I parked at the bottom of Thunder Mountain, rode bike path up to Cassidy, went up Cassidy, down Losee, cut over and up on Castro, back across the top and down Cassidy, up the bike path and down Thunder Mountain. It was only 38 miles - 4,300 in elevation gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockin
    It was only 38 miles - 4,300 in elevation gain.
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    It's settled,

    Casto up to Cassidy
    Cassidy to Bike Path
    Bike Path to Thunder
    Thunder to ice cold beers
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    i usually do it rockin's way

    rockin's way is my usual- i call it the "full monty". i can usually go faster if i go cassidy,casto,up lossee,down cassidy then thunder. this is my fav loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockin
    When I rode it, I parked at the bottom of Thunder Mountain, rode bike path up to Cassidy, went up Cassidy, down Losee, cut over and up on Castro, back across the top and down Cassidy, up the bike path and down Thunder Mountain. It was only 38 miles - 4,300 in elevation gain.
    That sounds perfect. So when does this area usually open up? Can't wait.

    Beautiful pics, Phil. When are you guys coming down again?

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    We'll be in Utah March 8-21. St George for a good part of it, but we may pop over to Moab during the latter part of that as some other mtbr folks will be in those parts. Come on down to St G. We will also fly into and out of Vegas, so we could possibly ride there too (though it's easier to assemble bikes in St G in a Team Sanchez garage).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    We'll be in Utah March 8-21.Come on down to St G.
    We're still getting snow here and I'll be due for another Southern UT escape by then so I may just do that.

    KRob---------------------->Checking with handlers for free dates.

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    bottom of Losee

    Losee is hardly worth riding with all the horse tracks but the very bottom if it right off the dirt road is well worth a short 15-20 minute hike. There's a bunch of small and tiny arches and windows there, some face sized. Great place for a few camera shots. Check it out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter
    It's settled,

    Casto up to Cassidy
    Cassidy to Bike Path
    Bike Path to Thunder
    Thunder to ice cold beers
    This exact loop is a tad under 30 miles and for me was about 4 hours riding time. 3000' elevation gain. I've riden Cassidy both directions and I concur w/ the previous posters. North to south is better and even if Casto is an ATV trail it's not worth missing the northern part of Cassidy for the climb up Losee. And the last downhill on Cassidy from Boynton Overlook is a hoot.

    Given the snowpack so far this year I would venture to guess that this area won't be open to bikes until mid-May, perhaps even later.

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    Casto is no epic singletrack either, but it's nice enough to get up on the plateau. I was passed by a group of 15 quads one time.

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