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    St. George/Hurricane Trip Planner

    Let's get with the program here people. There is a need for a sticky thread with good detailed info on planning a trip to SW Utah. Every week there is a new thread about what to ride, when to ride, what to expect and where to eat/sleep. With some help I'd like to get one together that will help declutter the Utah board with more important stuff like the Humdinger endurance Race. Of course my opinion might not be like everybody elses but some feed back from everybody would be a great idea so I can edit this down to a few solid posts.

    First order of business is there is a website that is a huge chunk of detailed info that can be extremely helpful in planning a trip out here and it is http://utahmountainbiking.com There are pictues, descriptions, gps files, and maps to help pick and choose what to ride. Even better is to stop by the local bike shops and get maps and ask around

    Hurricane Area:
    Over the Edge
    http://otesports.com/shops/hurricane/

    Springdale/Zion Area(grafton):
    Zion Cycles
    http://zioncycles.com/

    St. George Area:
    Red Rock bicycles
    http://redrockbicycle.com/
    Bikes Unlimited:
    http://www.bicyclesunlimited.com/

    After hours there are some bike essential (tubes, patches, etc) vending machines. one even at the chevron below Gooseberry
    http://24hrbikeshop.com/NV_ID_UT_CO_Locations.html


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    1. First question that is asked the most is "what to ride."
    The trails in this Corner of the state can be broken down into two different areas, Hurricane riding and St. George riding. For the most part the two towns can be as close as 20 minutes to around and hour to get from one town to another depending on where you are coming from. So I would plan trails down to riding in one area at a time. Ride Hurricane for a day or two and then ride STG and vise versa. The Trails I would suggest are in my mind how I would do it. Not counting beginner or advanced in this list but more as an all around most riders best choice options.

    Hurricane area:

    -Gooseberry mesa: Technical Slickrock riding and is a must do.

    -Little Creek Mesa: More great slickrock riding but tough to navigate and not well marked yet so not for people that can get turned around easily.

    -Jem/Hurricane Rim/Goulds loop: Can be broken into shorter parts/loops or done as a large loop but is great and is mostly buff singletrack

    -Guacamole: Similar to Gooseberry riding but a mini/shorter version of it.

    -Grafton Mesa: Technical Chunky Singletrack. Appeals more to the all mountain/DH bike type of riding. Best done shuttled

    -Babylon/Little Purgatory: The trail is actually in Leeds but is in between the 2 towns. Technical singltrack with some climbing and some good descending. Not for beginners


    St. George Riding.

    -Zen Trail: Technical Singletrack with a good amount of climbing and descending. More for intermediate and advanced riders. Must do trail. loop

    -Barrel Ride: right next door to Zen and is very similar riding. More technical but does have several jumps/drops, most have alt lines/ride arounds. loop

    -Green valley loop/Bear claw Poppy/Stucki Springs: Classic mountain bike trail that can be done several different ways from. All different riders from beginner to advanced. 99% dirt singletrack with short ups and downs similar to a rollercoaster.

    -Icehouse/Broken Mesa: Longer loop options or shuttled. Technical singletrack from buff to chunky and technical. Mostly gradual climb and descent but has a steep final descent off mesa that would be difficult for begenners. Like Jem trail but with more vertical feet lost.

    -Santa Clara river Preserve Trails:
    Barrel Roll, Sidewinder, Rim rocks, Anazasi trail: Great XC style singletrack. Lots of loop options. All levels of riding. Trail is dirt/rock

    -Church rocks/Prospector trail/Dino cliffs: Moab style riding on Red slickrock and singletrack. Great for all riders. short and longer loops. XC and technical riding.

    -Paradise Canyon/turtle wall/chuckawalla: More Moab style Red rock riding. Mostly singletrack but does have small areas of slickrock and technical riding. Great for all levels and in town riding. Has some advanced/short drops in areas.




    Here is more info for the Hurricane/Springdale area: (Thanks STT Guy)

    Dining Options

    Zion National Park

    The Zion Park Lodge ($$-$$$) Breakfast, Lunch Dinner – Good food and reasonable prices. Located in the heart of Zion Canyon..We recommend lunch on the deck….the veiws are spectacular. Between April 1 and Oct 15 you will have to ride the Zion Park Shuttle to get to the lodge, it’s easy and it’s free.

    Springdale

    Oscars ($$). – (our personal favorite!) Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner - Eclectic Mexican inspired dishes and the absolute BEST burgers and sandwiches in the area. The Mahi-Mahi fish tacos are my personal favorite and the ribs are excellent. Plenty of vegetarian options as well.

    Flying Monkey Pizza and Pasta ($$) open at 11AM every day - Great Pizza and pasta dishes. Good selection of appetizers and sandwiches.

    Pizza Noodle ($$1/2) open at 4pm daily – Excellent pizza, pasta dishes and good grinders.

    Wildcat Willies ($$$) Steaks, chicken and American fare. Excellent ribs and steaks. Full liquor bar.

    Whip-tail Grill ($$) Small café with varying eclectic menu items. Vegitarian options.

    Jacks ($$) sports bar and pub but great food as well. State Liquor Store is adjacent.

    The Switchback ($$$ - $$$$) steaks, chops, seafood. Classic American fare.

    Spotted Dog ($$$) Rather eclectic menu selection prepared and presented a bit upscale.

    Parallel 88 ($$$$) Excellent local chef creates some very tasty dishes. Good wine list as well.

    Bit and Spur ($$$) Local watering hole bar as well as good Mexican influenced fare. Full liquor bar.

    Hurricane

    Main Street Café ($$) – Breakfast and Lunch Only– Great breakfast and lunch and a local favorite.

    Ted and Allens ($$) Lunch and Dinner – Sports pub atmosphere with good sandwiches and a variety of menu choices including salads and daily specials.

    Durangos Mexican ($$) Lunch and Dinner – Yummy mexican food served fast. Great value and good for to-go dishes as well.

    Papa Murphy’s Pizza ($) – They make it, you take it home and bake it. Hard to beat this pizza value.

    Little Caesars ($) - Pizza-Pizza J


    Groceries & Supplies

    Farmers Market & Gas Station in La Verkin, is a nice full service grocery store with a good selection of meats and fresh vegetables - Take State Route 9 right into LaVerkin and the Farmers Market is on the SW corner..


    Sporting Goods


    Ace Hardware and Sporting Goods – Located in Hurricane, these are good folks and have a great selection and very fair prices. Fishing licenses can be purchased here as can tackle, shooting supplies, camping supplies, etc..


    Gas & Diesel

    Farmers Market – is the closest. Gas is also available is Springdale but is 30 to 40 cents more per gallon.


    Area Attractions & national parks..


    Zion National Park – Turn right out of our driveway and then left on State Route 9…in 16 miles you’re there!

    Grand Canyon North Rim – Turn right on State Route 9. Follow SR 9 back into Hurricane and take a left on State Route 89 and follow the signs to 89A and the North Rim.

    Bryce Canyon national Park – Take SR9 right to the Chevron. Go right at the light and follow the road back out to I-15. Take I-15 North through Cedar City and follow the signs to Bryce Canyon National Park.

    Coral Pink Sand Dunes State Park – Beautiful sand dunes created from red Navajo sandstone. Ask us for directions.

    Snow Canyon State Park – Area of beautiful white rock formations and home of many movie sets. Several good areas for novice rock climbers with pre-bolted routes. Also a paved bike path that extends for several miles.

    Sand Hollow Lake and State Park – Nice fishing lake (bluegill and bass) and a large OHV area accessing the sand dunes. If you are an ATV’er this is your kind of park. Miles and miles of sand dunes and slickrock areas provide hours of enjoyment.

    Fishing

    Quail Hollow Reservoir – Good trout fishing and it is accessible from shore. Kolob Reservoir – Trophy trout lake… they’re kinda’ picky!!
    Sand Hollow – Crappie, Bluegill and Small Mouth bass

    Fishing licenses can be purchased at ACE Hardware on SR 9 in Hurricane. Hours” M-Sat 8AM – 8PM







    This is a good start for now
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    Good job! Another Resource To Add!

    Hey shelbster15,

    Thanks for posting those resources and suggested rides. They certainly fit my experience during the two biking vacations we’ve enjoyed in St. George. Even after those two wonderful weeks there are rides on your list that I want to do when I go back.

    I would add one additional local resource that added to our enjoyment. We had a wonderful time using the services of Mark Erickson at Mountain Bike Buddies

    http://www.mountainbikebuddies.com/

    Mark’s extensive local knowledge of the trails saved us time and effort. He made sure my wife didn’t get on a trail that was over her head and maximized our fun every day we rode with him.

    I highly recommend him and his service!

    Thanks again,

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbster15
    Let's get with the program here people. There is a need for a sticky thread with good detailed info on planning a trip to SW Utah. Every week there is a new thread about what to ride, when to ride, what to expect and where to eat/sleep. With some help I'd like to get one together that will help declutter the Utah board with more important stuff like the Humdinger endurance Race. Of course my opinion might not be like everybody elses but some feed back from everybody would be a great idea so I can edit this down to a few solid posts.

    First order of business is there is a website that is a huge chunk of detailed info that can be extremely helpful in planning a trip out here and it is http://utahmountainbiking.com There are pictues, descriptions, gps files, and maps to help pick and choose what to ride. Even better is to stop by the local bike shops and get maps and ask around

    Hurricane Area:
    Over the Edge
    http://otesports.com/shops/hurricane/

    Springdale/Zion Area(grafton):
    Zion Cycles
    http://zioncycles.com/

    St. George Area:
    Red Rock bicycles
    http://redrockbicycle.com/
    Bikes Unlimited:
    http://www.bicyclesunlimited.com/

    1. First question that is asked the most is "what to ride."
    The trails in this Corner of the state can be broken down into two different areas, Hurricane riding and St. George riding. For the most part the two towns can be as close as 20 minutes to around and hour to get from one town to another depending on where you are coming from. So I would plan trails down to riding in one area at a time. Ride Hurricane for a day or two and then ride STG and vise versa. The Trails I would suggest are in my mind how I would do it. Not counting beginner or advanced in this list but more as an all around most riders best choice options.

    Hurricane area:

    -Gooseberry mesa: Technical Slickrock riding and is a must do.

    -Little Creek Mesa: More great slickrock riding but tough to navigate and not well marked yet so not for people that can get turned around easily.

    -Jem/Hurricane Riml/Goulds loop: Can be broken into shorter parts/loops or done as a large loop but is great and is mostly buff singletrack

    -Guacamole: Similar to Gooseberry riding but a mini/shorter version of it.

    -Grafton Mesa: Technical Chunky Singletrack. Appeals more to the all mountain/DH bike type of riding. Best done shuttled

    -Babylon/Little Purgatory: The trail is actually in Leeds but is in between the 2 towns. Technical singltrack with some climbing and some good descending. Not for beginners


    St. George Riding.

    -Zen Trail: Technical Singletrack with a good amount of climbing and descending. More for intermediate and advanced riders. Must do trail. loop

    -Barrel Ride: right next door to Zen and is very similar riding. More technical but does have several jumps/drops, most have alt lines/ride arounds. loop

    -Green valley loop/Bear claw Poppy/Stucki Springs: Classic mountain bike trail that can be done several different ways from. All different riders from beginner to advanced. 99% dirt singletrack with short ups and downs similar to a rollercoaster.

    -Icehouse/Broken Mesa: Longer loop options or shuttled. Technical singletrack from buff to chunky and technical. Mostly gradual climb and descent but has a steep final descent off mesa that would be difficult for begenners. Like Jem trail but with more vertical feet lost.

    -Santa Clara river Preserve Trails:
    Barrel Roll, Sidewinder, Rim rocks, Anazasi trail: Great XC style singletrack. Lots of loop options. All levels of riding. Trail is dirt/rock

    -Church rocks/Prospector trail/Dino cliffs: Moab style riding on Red slickrock and singletrack. Great for all riders. short and longer loops. XC and technical riding.

    -Paradise Canyon/turtle wall/chuckawalla: More Moab style Red rock riding. Mostly singletrack but does have small areas of slickrock and technical riding. Great for all levels and in town riding. Has some advanced/short drops in areas.

    This is a good start for now
    Hurricane RIM not Hurricane Canal. The canal trail is a non-motorized hiking trail that drops down to the virgin river.

    Prospector and Church Rocks...... it's "Old Faithful" when it's wet out.

    Might also waht to putr some stuff up about what is good when it's wet and what's not. Our trails took an absolute beating this winter between cows and riders who were not aware of where to and where not to ride.... and a few who just didn't GAF.
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    Good eye. fixed it. I'm far from perfect. Chime in also with camping advise and restaurants or what not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbster15
    Good eye. fixed it. I'm far from perfect. Chime in also with camping advise and restaurants or what not.
    Shoot me your email address via PM and I'll shoot you what we give to our guests... Covers Hurricane, Springdale and Zions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STT GUY
    Shoot me your email address via PM and I'll shoot you what we give to our guests... Covers Hurricane, Springdale and Zions.
    SST you just had too

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    Shelbster,

    Can you put on the sticky that there is a Bike Box (trail maps, tubes, lube etc) at the Chevron gas station on your left just before the Gooseberry dirt road turn off?
    http://24hrbikeshop.com/NV_ID_UT_CO_Locations.html

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    I like knowing where the Zions are just in case I need some quick cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by k2rider1964
    I like knowing where the Zions are just in case I need some quick cash
    I did that to see how long you guys whould take to pounce on me. Thank you for not disappointing...
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    Mods, can we make this a sticky, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Mods, can we make this a sticky, please?
    Sure thing!
    Sounds awesome out there! My neighbor will be retiring out there across the highway from St George. He has had the land for over 20 years, good foresight!
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    If I wasn't married, I'd buy a place out in Hurricane right now. I'd use it as a rental for a few years and then move out there myself when I retire. My wife has never been to the area other than driving thru on the way to Lake Powell. As of now, we plan on retiring in SW Colorado outside of Durango. 7-12 years to go depending on how long she wants to keep working full time, I'm done in 3 years, 6 months and 24 days!!

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    Any updates on lodging?

    I have gotten no response from the few VRBO listings in Hurricane. I can't tell if staying in St George is too far from Gooseberry or if it would be fine to stay there.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by essjss
    Any updates on lodging?

    I have gotten no response from the few VRBO listings in Hurricane. I can't tell if staying in St George is too far from Gooseberry or if it would be fine to stay there.

    Thanks in advance!
    When are you looking to stay..... a link in my sig line takes you to our place.
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    Last weekend in Sept (2011). Looks like your place is booked but I sent an e-mail anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by essjss
    Any updates on lodging?

    I have gotten no response from the few VRBO listings in Hurricane. I can't tell if staying in St George is too far from Gooseberry or if it would be fine to stay there.

    Thanks in advance!
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    How long are you staying down here? For hurricane its about 30-45 minutes to get to the white trail parking lot. For stg its going to be 15-30 more minutes depending on where you stay in town. Are you riding anything else?(stg trails and what not) that would be a major determining factor.

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    Right now it looks like a Thursday eve arrival and Sunday mid-day departure. I have heard that Gooseberry can be covered in a day and the mesa to the south can take another day, as far as the 1/2 day, I'm not sure where to go.

    I'm not sure if that is the best use of time for 2.5 days of riding, any and all suggestions are welcome.

    We don't really want to be in the car too long before/after rides so it sounds like Hurricane might be the best bet but I guess another 15 min wouldn't kill anyone if the options are better.

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    You can make a full day out of gooseberry. Or at least a big chunk and go ride something else if your legs can take it. Im usually done for the day after 15 miles up there. Go ride little creek in the morning and jem in the afternoon. On sunday go to st. George and ride zen and try to add barrel ride.(dos mesas). That would be around 3 hours of good riding.

    St. George has a better selection of motels and food selection but hurricane will be more practical

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    If STTguy's place is booked, the next best option is Hurricane. I'm surprised you aren't getting any replies. I had great luck when I was using VRBO for Hurricane lodging. Check www.homeaway.com as well. We found a 2BR/1BA place there for $85 a night in NW Hurricane...bonus that it is literally across the street from Church Rocks riding and has a designated bike/ATV wash area. It was about 15-20 minutes to JEM Trail, unknown how much further to Goose as it was snowed in/over on our trip.

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    Anyone know where the coral springs condos are in relation to Gooseberry? I'd like to spend as little time as possible in the car. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by essjss View Post
    Anyone know where the coral springs condos are in relation to Gooseberry? I'd like to spend as little time as possible in the car. Thanks!
    Your just over an hour to the White Road trailhead.... unless you have a rental car with damage waiver.. then maybe 40 minutes. You have to go SR 9 to SR 59 and then catch Smithsonian Butte Buyway to the Goosebery turn-off.
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    Thanks for the info Monte. That is good to know before we get there. You're still booked for Sep 29-Oct 2 right?

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    Am planning a trip this weekend. I've been before, but have only ever done Gooseberry, Bearclaw Poppy, and Zen.

    Our plan is to ride Gooseberry and make almost a full day of it. But we'd like another 1-2 hours somewhere else in the Hurricane area. Any suggestions?

    What's a time estimate for the JEM/Hurricane/Goulds trails? Is there enough to make it a full day (6 hours or so)? Or would it be good just doing a portion for 1-2 hours after Gooseberry.


    Another question.....I see it's raining today and rain in the forecast for Thursday. Will trails be okay on Friday? Saturday? Any trails particularly bad with drainage that we should stay away from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinnacle10 View Post
    Am planning a trip this weekend. I've been before, but have only ever done Gooseberry, Bearclaw Poppy, and Zen.

    Our plan is to ride Gooseberry and make almost a full day of it. But we'd like another 1-2 hours somewhere else in the Hurricane area. Any suggestions?

    What's a time estimate for the JEM/Hurricane/Goulds trails? Is there enough to make it a full day (6 hours or so)? Or would it be good just doing a portion for 1-2 hours after Gooseberry.


    Another question.....I see it's raining today and rain in the forecast for Thursday. Will trails be okay on Friday? Saturday? Any trails particularly bad with drainage that we should stay away from?
    Thanks for asking.....

    I just walked in from six hours on Little Creek... The Outter Loop will be to wet to ride and the inner loops are getting there quick.

    Gooseberry should be ok to ride (use common sense...) on Practice Loop, North Rim, Bowls and Ledges, South Rim and Yellow Trail. Personally I'd avoid Hidden Canyon and Gander. Getting to Gooseberry is going to be hit or miss based on what you're driving.

    JEM/Hurricane Rim/Goulds should be ridable if you do the following:

    Stay off upper JEM (Upper JEM Trailhead accessed from HWY 59) between Trailhead and Sheeps bridge road and the Upper Goulds. (Between Sheepsbridge/Cattle Pen and HWY 59). You can put together a nice loop starting at Lower JEM and then taking Hurricane Rim to Goulds and Goulds to the Cattle Pen. at this point take a left and follow the dirt road north, cross HWY 59 and follow the dirt road and pick up the lower JEM on your left.

    This will cut about six or seven miles off your total ride of 24 or so, but preserve our trails. If you're making ruts please discontinue your rides and turn back.

    Hope this helps.

    BTW.. Consider Barrel Roll and Sidewinder and the Rim System out in Santa Clara and also Prospector and Church Rocks with an extension to Dino Tracks which is a bit sandy and is great during or after it rains.
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    How late in the year can you ride out there. I'll be in the area over Thanksgiving and was thinking of bringing my bike. I'm guessing a lot will depend on the weather but if it hasn't snowed/rained in a week and temps are above 45 are some of the trails in the area still rideable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbietz View Post
    How late in the year can you ride out there. I'll be in the area over Thanksgiving and was thinking of bringing my bike. I'm guessing a lot will depend on the weather but if it hasn't snowed/rained in a week and temps are above 45 are some of the trails in the area still rideable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badbietz View Post
    How late in the year can you ride out there. I'll be in the area over Thanksgiving and was thinking of bringing my bike. I'm guessing a lot will depend on the weather but if it hasn't snowed/rained in a week and temps are above 45 are some of the trails in the area still rideable?
    Our riding areas here isn't St George vary greatly. We've had super nice late November riding and we've has absolute shite so its luck of the draw.

    West of town we have Santa Clara which is much lower and typically warmer and the soil dries faster (excluding Bearclaw Poppy). The Prospector/Churchrocks loop is nearly always ridable unless we have had many, many days of rain and if its to wet to ride you are pretty much screwed everywhere else.

    The Mesa's, Gooseberry and Little Creek are unique in a couple of ways. Gooseberry dries quicker but the road into it can be a challenge even for a 4WD at times. agressive 4WD use to gain access just fu#ks the road up to no end for those nice enough to wait a for it to dry a lttle. Basically if you can get TO Goose you can ride it. Hidden Canyon is the slowest trail to dry.

    Little Creek has a better road into it but it is the slowest of any of the trail systems here to dry as it is high (5300') and most of the dirt portions are shaded and/or face north so they are very slow to dry. Additionally it is difficult to navigate and the chances of you getting off route and causing trail damage are high.

    Best plan is to ask a local who rides here day in and day out or a bike shop (Zion Cyles, Over the Edge, Red Rock are all excellent choices). We'll be honest and give yu some options of what trails are going to offer you good rides with minimal impact on the trails systems.

    Good luck
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    I stopped last Friday on the way to Vegas and rode Gooseberry for the first time it was great. Glad I didn't let the weather underground talk me out of it Thursday showed 40% rain, cloudy and cold for Friday. I had blue skies and views forever. Rode Santa Clara on the way home barrel roll and sidewinder fun quick trails and back on the road. I look forward to sampling more on the next trip.

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    Any suggestions for a decent campsite near the most number of worthy trails (we are pretty good riders who like technical stuff)? We are looking at the last week of Nov and would like to find something central (with showers). I've never ridden the St George/Hurricane area and we've got 3 days there - any info would be appreciated!

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    bump ....also for camping w rv in st george thanksgiving week

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    bump ....also for camping w rv in st george thanksgiving week
    Zion River Resort in Virgin - RV Camping

    Quail Creek State Park - Tent and RV camping
    Sand Hollow State Park - Tent and RV camping
    The Willows RV Park in Hurricane - RV camping
    Snow Canyon State Park - RV and Tent as well IIRC
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    I'm coming down to St. George sometime after Thanksgiving from Kodiak, Alaska, will have to rent a bike. I want to thank you for all this info it's making my trip so much easier to plan. I will probably end up using that shuttle service and I was wondering if there's anybody out there that might want to show me around St. George trails.

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    I usually camp right on Gooseberry Mesa about 1 mile from the trail head, past the bathroom to the left. Much of the mesa is open to camping. That's the ONLY modern convenience on the mesa, other than maps. But I'm always there in spring or autumn.
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    Gotta do Guacamole when you're there. We passed through Hurricane Thanksgiving week and rode the Goose which is awesome, but didn't get a chance to ride Guacamole. We get home and there's a killer review on FatCyclist about it; can't wait to get back!
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    Guacamole is basically "Gooseberry Lite", taste great but less filling.
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    Bumped a St. George thread cause I was blind to this sticky. I guess this is the thread for the info I seek.

    How are are Virgin and Grafton? I'm coming down for work tonight. I would like to bring some others and get some time in the saddle. According to weather reports, all should be well this week. Just making sure I'm not missing anything.

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    Okay, I may be flying solo now. However, I'm pretty set on doing a Dig it/Grafton Mesa ride. If any Southerners want to hook up and ride Grafton for sure, and maybe session Red Bull a bit as well, shoot me a pm.

    Not sure what condition Flying Monkey is in. I have heard rough shape the past few seasons. I would be okay with that as well if it is ridable.

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    Utah Trip

    I need some help with a little Utah trip I’m planning. A group of us are planning a trip to SW Utah late Sept-early Oct. but none of us have been before so the trails will be new to us. We will have a full 3 days of riding and the only thing we know for sure is we want to hit up Gooseberry Mesa other than that we’re pretty open to suggestions? My thought is, maybe do 2 days in the Hurricane area then hit Brianhead area for a day…or maybe the other way around. We’re looking for about 20-30 miles a day, and we all have an XC background so we’re not opposed to some climbing when the decent is worth it. We’re hoping to get some technical trail/all-mountain stuff and some good flowy stuff.

    So here’s my questions:
    If you had never ridden Utah and you had 3 full days of riding (planning to do 20-30 miles a day) and you didn’t mind driving about 45 minutes to get somewhere what would your 3 best days be…St.G/Zion/Brian head/Gooseberry? It doesn’t have to be a 20-30 mile loop…it could be a 10-15 mile loop, back the vehicles for some lunch then back out for a different 10-15 mile loop (or out and back)

    Some places that I’ve noted are Gooseberry, Little Creek mtn, Bearclaw Poppy, and Thunder Mountain but since we’ve never been I’m simply going off trail reviews.

    Thanks for any help you can provide,
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    Quote Originally Posted by james_95 View Post
    I need some help with a little Utah trip I’m planning. A group of us are planning a trip to SW Utah late Sept-early Oct. but none of us have been before so the trails will be new to us. We will have a full 3 days of riding and the only thing we know for sure is we want to hit up Gooseberry Mesa other than that we’re pretty open to suggestions? My thought is, maybe do 2 days in the Hurricane area then hit Brianhead area for a day…or maybe the other way around. We’re looking for about 20-30 miles a day, and we all have an XC background so we’re not opposed to some climbing when the decent is worth it. We’re hoping to get some technical trail/all-mountain stuff and some good flowy stuff.

    So here’s my questions:
    If you had never ridden Utah and you had 3 full days of riding (planning to do 20-30 miles a day) and you didn’t mind driving about 45 minutes to get somewhere what would your 3 best days be…St.G/Zion/Brian head/Gooseberry? It doesn’t have to be a 20-30 mile loop…it could be a 10-15 mile loop, back the vehicles for some lunch then back out for a different 10-15 mile loop (or out and back)

    Some places that I’ve noted are Gooseberry, Little Creek mtn, Bearclaw Poppy, and Thunder Mountain but since we’ve never been I’m simply going off trail reviews.

    Thanks for any help you can provide,
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    Ur thinking pretty good on this. Lots of options on stuff to do. Two days in Hurricane would work and one day up near Brian head would work.


    Loop Gooseberry and possibly add gander to Grafton makes for an epic day.

    Consider Little creek the next day if you want more mesa slickrock or head to STG and do all the intown short loops. You could bust out Zen, barrel ride, bearclaw poppy(do stucki and end on BCP), Barrel roll paradise etc in a full day of riding. No wusses!

    The leaves tend to peak last week of September-first week of October up near brian head so it would be sure pretty riding off the peak. Either doing some awesome shuttling down Bunker creek, Dark hollow and Blow Hard in a day or doing an epic point to point on VRRT. All require a shuttle or some major climbing and riding pavement would be involved all around 9000

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    shelbster, which would you say is better riding for day 2..STG or Little Creek? Would it be best to stay in Hurricane for the and drive to STG and/or Brianhead or should we stay in Brianhead and/or STG on the days that we plan to ride there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by james_95 View Post
    shelbster, which would you say is better riding for day 2..STG or Little Creek? Would it be best to stay in Hurricane for the and drive to STG and/or Brianhead or should we stay in Brianhead and/or STG on the days that we plan to ride there?

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    Little creek or STG. Depends. LC is a blast but good or bad offers the same style of riding as your previous day on Gooseberry just with less hero moves up and down stuff. Slickrock with interconnecting singletrack upon a mostly flat mesa. Views are still an ugly shade of "Ooh", "Ah" and "Beautiful". Make the call after you ride the Goose. Another day of this or some variety? I was suggesting some variety. STG trails would be mixing everything together. Either way you'll have fun and won't regret it.

    If you do LC. Do the outer loop. It will take most the day of goofing off and gandering and could possibly have time to ride jem in the pm when done.

    If you do STG. Ride Barrel Ride(not roll) then drop down and head up to Zen. 3-4 hours technical chunky riding with some good climb and descents.
    Refuel and head over to navajo drive to the bottom of BCP and ride stucki springs as CCW loop and return back to car. get gps files from utahmountainbiking.com for fast roller coaster riding
    In the lader part of the day head over to santa clara preserve and do barrel roll w/ sidewinder and if you want more do the rim loops SW of barrel roll.
    If your super hero and want more do churchrocks w/ prospector or paradise for some Moab flavor riding.

    You can drive up from STG or Hurricane to Brian Head and knock out a full day of riding and head back down when done. I do it no Problem. I've left and done either VRRT or Brian head peak rides and been home by dark. Count on 1 1/2 hours to drive there. If your return trip home is north I'd stay in Cedar city or BH, If your heading towards vegas you would be fine staying in STG/Hurricane.

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    One more thing to consider:
    I should also mention Grafton Mesa for some chunk. Its chunky but boy is it killer. 5-6in trail bikes handle just fine if you do all the upper loops on top of the mesa. the descent off to the valley floor can be a little rough if ur on a trail bike and requires a lot of climbing to get back up. I usually bring the trail bike and stay on top. OTE sports in hurricane can point you the right way.

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    Hi guys,

    Landscapes looks amazing around STG and we want to hit some trails during a weekend.
    Do you think I can ride these trails (Barrel Ride, Zen, Gooseberry ...) with my hardtail ? (Cannondale trail SL2)

    Thanks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxone View Post
    Hi guys,

    Landscapes looks amazing around STG and we want to hit some trails during a weekend.
    Do you think I can ride these trails (Barrel Ride, Zen, Gooseberry ...) with my hardtail ? (Cannondale trail SL2)

    Thanks !
    As long as you have a healthy back, sure! Goosberry isn't chunky rocky, it's masses of rocks with steps and tech moves by the second. Main thing to remember about Gooseberry is the road in, if there's been a lot of rain it's not drivevable, but that's NOT the case.
    If you can find some at Goose to help you find Little Creek it's well worth it, personally I like to ride it first as it's easier and helpful in teaching how to ride the slickrock.
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    Thank you for the advice

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    I am going to be visiting Las Vegas in March. My plan is to fly into Vegas a few days early so I can get some saddle time in. I've been looking at trails in the area (Cotton Wood, Bootleg, and St. George) and I was wondering if it would be worth the drive (Vegas to St. George) to ride Zen, Green Valley, and other trails in that particular area? I haven't made any hotel reservations or solid plans yet so I could rent a car, drive to St. George, rent a bike, and be ready to ride the next day. Bringing all my gear with me. Any suggestions would be helpful.

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    I'd do one day at Gooseberry, 1 day on the JEM/Hurricane Mesa/Goulds Loop and 1 day at Church Rocks/Prospector in StG....then 1 day at Thunder Mtn!!

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    Thanks K2rider. Are the trails pretty easy to navigate? I'll probably only get two days of riding in before I have to be in Vegas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rghyland View Post
    Thanks K2rider. Are the trails pretty easy to navigate? I'll probably only get two days of riding in before I have to be in Vegas.


    Your rides will be totally dependent on the weather and trail conditions. thunder MTn will be under two to four feet of snow in March so scratch that one.

    Basically, a couple of days before your trip check back and we'll tell you where you should go. Make sense?
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    Yep! Thanks!

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    Rain.

    If there is much rain I would aviod the JEM Goulds area. The clay surface does not handle water well and you will leave lots of ruts. Goose handles water pretty well except for the access road. Any signifigant rain/snow (yes its snow on goose) can leave it impassable to anything but high clearance 4x4. Call ote sport is hurricane when its only a couple days out and they will give you the beta on where your good to ride and where you should avoid;
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    Does OTE rent bikes?

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    Yep, the trails I listed are easy to navigate....especially the JEM and Hurricane Rim trails/loop. You can ride to them straight from STT's rental as well The signage out there is pretty good.

    OTE does rent bikes. I rented a bike for my son from them last April (from SlowerThenSnot)

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    Cool! I appreciate all the good info.

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    Trail conditions check for this weekend!

    How is the road to gooseberry? Did you guys get any moisture last night.

    Also how are Zen/Bear Claw/Barrels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRIDE View Post
    Trail conditions check for this weekend!

    How is the road to gooseberry? Did you guys get any moisture last night.

    Also how are Zen/Bear Claw/Barrels?
    road is a bit sloppy, but not too bad

    zen, claw ect should all be fine this weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot View Post
    road is a bit sloppy, but not too bad

    zen, claw ect should all be fine this weekend
    Think the road is good enough to get a RWD van back there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRIDE View Post
    Think the road is good enough to get a RWD van back there?
    Might give a ring to the guys at OTE on that one.... or a better question is how much do you like your van?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRIDE View Post
    Trail conditions check for this weekend!

    How is the road to gooseberry? Did you guys get any moisture last night.

    Also how are Zen/Bear Claw/Barrels?
    Everything except Little Creek is pretty nice, please stay off Litte Creek, it's muddy,

    Road to Goose is 2WD accessable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot View Post
    Might give a ring to the guys at OTE on that one.... or a better question is how much do you like your van?
    The van is blue.. but the undercarriage is "custom Moab red." It's a tool, not a show vehicle.

    Luckily I've got another friend w/a Subaru coming. Just hope he can pull me out if I get stuck.

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    Any recommendations on primitive camping around St. G? Usually stay up on Goose or in Springdale, but wouldn't mind being a bit lower this weekend....is there any cool place to park a couple of trucks and chill out for a long weekend of riding? Planning on spending a lot of time around Green Valley Gap....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor Lord of Thunder View Post
    Any recommendations on primitive camping around St. G? Usually stay up on Goose or in Springdale, but wouldn't mind being a bit lower this weekend....is there any cool place to park a couple of trucks and chill out for a long weekend of riding? Planning on spending a lot of time around Green Valley Gap....
    Nothing truly amazing in STG compared to the Goose.

    People seem to camp around "the Gap" even more towards zen trail(Turn left once you drive down into the gap for about a mile till you hit the lower bailout of zen) This would be towards Moe's valley and you could boulder when not riding. Not sure on status though I always see a tent or two. I believe its State Trust Land.

    You could always drive out past bear claw poppy off of Navajo Dr. in Bloomington a few miles but don't know of any stellar primitive camping in town.

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    Thanks for the info....yeah, never have found a great spot for camping around St. G. Goose is the place to go. Heading down with a buddy tomorrow. If anyone is up for a ride this weekend give me a holler....I'm the guy on the purple Bottlerocket.

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    Heading down with some people this weekend. I see snow in the forecast tomorrow. I switched a ski trip, planned for this weekend, in favor of a bike vacation due to lack of snow... and it may bite me now that the date has arrived.

    Anyone care to keep us posted on conditions after tomorrow's storm and heading into the weekend? Especially Grafton and the higher trails.

    This could suck if I switch good snow for bad biking... or this could prove how awesome Utah is if I get to ski 10" of fresh tomorrow followed by biking tacky goodness a few days later. Fingers are crossed hoping the snow doesn't stick down south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roguebuilder View Post
    Heading down with some people this weekend. I see snow in the forecast tomorrow. I switched a ski trip, planned for this weekend, in favor of a bike vacation due to lack of snow... and it may bite me now that the date has arrived.

    Anyone care to keep us posted on conditions after tomorrow's storm and heading into the weekend? Especially Grafton and the higher trails.

    This could suck if I switch good snow for bad biking... or this could prove how awesome Utah is if I get to ski 10" of fresh tomorrow followed by biking tacky goodness a few days later. Fingers are crossed hoping the snow doesn't stick down south.

    We usually post up trail conditions promptly...don't see why that will change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roguebuilder View Post
    Heading down with some people this weekend. I see snow in the forecast tomorrow. I switched a ski trip, planned for this weekend, in favor of a bike vacation due to lack of snow... and it may bite me now that the date has arrived.

    Anyone care to keep us posted on conditions after tomorrow's storm and heading into the weekend? Especially Grafton and the higher trails.

    This could suck if I switch good snow for bad biking... or this could prove how awesome Utah is if I get to ski 10" of fresh tomorrow followed by biking tacky goodness a few days later. Fingers are crossed hoping the snow doesn't stick down south.
    No way St George and it's many trails are snowed in. Gooseberry access might be limited to riding in. I love powder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abegold View Post
    No way St George and it's many trails are snowed in. Gooseberry access might be limited to riding in. I love powder.

    Snowed down to 4000 feet last night and rained everywhere else.

    Gooseberry will most likely dry out by the weekend and the road in should be ok to good.

    Little Creek will need another two weeks to dry out. I was up there Sunday doing recon and and it was muddy and needed five to ten days more dry time, especially the "big loop". This additional snow will push back the "ok to ride" date will into March.
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    STT: thanks for the updates. They are greatly appreciated by many of us.

    The storm up North made for some very very good skiing today. Although there is a bit of related travel... I love living in a state where I can get face shots all day long at the Bird, and then head south for the biking equivalent in the same week.

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    The weekend was very nice. We spent Friday and Saturday lapping Grafton and Flying Monkey. This was my first time fist fighting the Monkey. What a crazy fun trail. Two of us finished off Saturday evening with a Red Bull session.

    Over all the weather was just about perfect (high 50's) minus some wind on Friday. The roads were dry and the trail dirt was good thanks to the moisture earlier in the week. Not sure about St. George proper; but, out past Hurricane... it's pretty good right now.

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    Headed down there tomorrow night. What are the conditions on Goose and Little Creek?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB_TDI View Post
    Headed down there tomorrow night. What are the conditions on Goose and Little Creek?
    How was it? If you're there now can I get a weather update? Will be up there in a few days to a week.

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    What day you getting into town wakebrdr142? I'm arriving on the 23rd in the afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rghyland View Post
    What day you getting into town wakebrdr142? I'm arriving on the 23rd in the afternoon.
    Not sure yet. Trying to plan the trip out and I have 12 days to burn, solo. I just know I'm going to Sedona, Gooseberry, and Moab. No order decided yet but I'm leaving Tucson on Weds.

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    I'm solo. If you get into Hurricane this coming weekend and want someone to ride with post up and I'll be watching to forum. I'm riding Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

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    Trails were great. It rained a bit after we left but they should be good to go.
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    Going to be in Hurricane for one full day April 2nd. I figured gooseberry mesa is a must ride if I had to pick anything out there. Looking for the best/most fun way to ride the mesa. My wife and I like going fast and riding technical stuff, we don't mind climbing but only to ride fun trails. Which way should we go? Which trail head should we start from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdamschen View Post
    Going to be in Hurricane for one full day April 2nd. I figured gooseberry mesa is a must ride if I had to pick anything out there. Looking for the best/most fun way to ride the mesa. My wife and I like going fast and riding technical stuff, we don't mind climbing but only to ride fun trails. Which way should we go? Which trail head should we start from?
    I rode Windmill trail and it was fun. Great view, too. Next time I'm hitting up the North Rim and South Rim.

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    Start at the main trailhead and head south and ride the entire South Rim Trail but detour down and back up Hidden Trail before finishing the South Rim. Then hit Yellow Trail and Bowls and Ledges on the way back to the trail head. If you wish to really get more tech head to Grafton Mesa, off Gooseberry's northeastern end, a very tech trail that heads down towards Springdale.
    Don't miss Little Creek Mesa, damn near as fun as Gooseberry but a little easier ride but harder to find.
    Zen Trail is a blast, too, harder climbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdamschen View Post
    Going to be in Hurricane for one full day April 2nd. I figured gooseberry mesa is a must ride if I had to pick anything out there. Looking for the best/most fun way to ride the mesa. My wife and I like going fast and riding technical stuff, we don't mind climbing but only to ride fun trails. Which way should we go? Which trail head should we start from?

    I would park at the Pit Toilet.

    Head west on the White Road to the Cattle Crossing make a left and take Cattle Grate trail heading south out of the parking area.
    This will basically become the South Rim Trail

    You will come to an interection this is where Hidden Canyon Trail goes right (north) and South Rim continues.... take Hidden Canyon.

    Hidden Canyon ends at the White Road (White Road bisects the mesa from East to West) take a right (east).

    You will almost immedtately come to the Connector Trail on your left. Take it to the North Rim Trail and go left or west on North Rim.

    This section of the North Rim ends at ......you guessed it... the White Road. Go right and about 100 feet on your left you will see the Yellow Trail...take it. It is a little 1/2 mile fun detour around the sand pit on the White Road. When you get back on the White Road take it left or west all the way out to the Point. Enjoy the killer view and a snack.

    Now come back from the Point and you will see the South Rim Trail on your right. Take it and you will eventually end up back at the Hidden Canyon junction again..... Bummer... you get to do Hidden Canyon again! LOL!!!

    This time when at the North Rim go EAST or right and follow North Rim to Bowls and Ledges to the Windmill Trail which will eventually dump you into the Windmill parking lot. Head East out of the parking lot and take a right on teh main road and in about ten minutes you will arrive back at your car.

    This is a big day, be warned. IIRC it's 20 miles, but it will seem like double that because Gooseberry is Hammer, coast, spin...all day long. You don;t get to rest all that much or set a steady pace.


    Enjoy!!!!
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    Awesome day riding with Quinton from Over the Edge Sports in Hurricane, not to mention the other great folks that I rode with today. If you get to Hurricane, stop by this shop. Top notch!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bdamschen View Post
    Going to be in Hurricane for one full day April 2nd. I figured gooseberry mesa is a must ride if I had to pick anything out there. Looking for the best/most fun way to ride the mesa. My wife and I like going fast and riding technical stuff, we don't mind climbing but only to ride fun trails. Which way should we go? Which trail head should we start from?
    The best advice I can give you is hire Monte (STT GUY) to guide you. Goose is a 'must do' but there's not alot of going fast and if you try to do it in the wrong place, you'll find yourself dropping several hundred feet. Have fun!!

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    Gooseberry can be ridden without a guide. All trails are marked very well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rghyland View Post
    Gooseberry can be ridden without a guide. All trails are marked very well.


    I just want to ride.
    Is this a full day of riding? Any other fun trails in the area we should check out?

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    Check out the 1st Post in this Thread for Answer!

    Quote Originally Posted by bdamschen View Post
    Is this a full day of riding? Any other fun trails in the area we should check out?
    Hey Mr. bdamschen,

    Here is the info:

    1. First question that is asked the most is "what to ride."
    The trails in this Corner of the state can be broken down into two different areas, Hurricane riding and St. George riding. For the most part the two towns can be as close as 20 minutes to around and hour to get from one town to another depending on where you are coming from. So I would plan trails down to riding in one area at a time. Ride Hurricane for a day or two and then ride STG and vise versa. The Trails I would suggest are in my mind how I would do it. Not counting beginner or advanced in this list but more as an all around most riders best choice options.

    Hurricane area:

    -Gooseberry mesa: Technical Slickrock riding and is a must do.

    -Little Creek Mesa: More great slickrock riding but tough to navigate and not well marked yet so not for people that can get turned around easily.

    -Jem/Hurricane Rim/Goulds loop: Can be broken into shorter parts/loops or done as a large loop but is great and is mostly buff singletrack

    -Guacamole: Similar to Gooseberry riding but a mini/shorter version of it.

    -Grafton Mesa: Technical Chunky Singletrack. Appeals more to the all mountain/DH bike type of riding. Best done shuttled

    -Babylon/Little Purgatory: The trail is actually in Leeds but is in between the 2 towns. Technical singltrack with some climbing and some good descending. Not for beginners


    St. George Riding.

    -Zen Trail: Technical Singletrack with a good amount of climbing and descending. More for intermediate and advanced riders. Must do trail. loop

    -Barrel Ride: right next door to Zen and is very similar riding. More technical but does have several jumps/drops, most have alt lines/ride arounds. loop

    -Green valley loop/Bear claw Poppy/Stucki Springs: Classic mountain bike trail that can be done several different ways from. All different riders from beginner to advanced. 99% dirt singletrack with short ups and downs similar to a rollercoaster.

    -Icehouse/Broken Mesa: Longer loop options or shuttled. Technical singletrack from buff to chunky and technical. Mostly gradual climb and descent but has a steep final descent off mesa that would be difficult for begenners. Like Jem trail but with more vertical feet lost.

    -Santa Clara river Preserve Trails:
    Barrel Roll, Sidewinder, Rim rocks, Anazasi trail: Great XC style singletrack. Lots of loop options. All levels of riding. Trail is dirt/rock

    -Church rocks/Prospector trail/Dino cliffs: Moab style riding on Red slickrock and singletrack. Great for all riders. short and longer loops. XC and technical riding.

    -Paradise Canyon/turtle wall/chuckawalla: More Moab style Red rock riding. Mostly singletrack but does have small areas of slickrock and technical riding. Great for all levels and in town riding. Has some advanced/short drops in areas.


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    Rainbow Rim on the north Rim of the Grand Canyon is special. Locust Point in the trails center is a good camping spot. Much of the riding is simply in pine forest hills till the views spots. Usually doesn't open till 4/15, check USFS as it's been dry. East Rim is even better riding, higher elevation, aspens/spruce/fir forest.
    There's also the northernmost section of the AZ Trail from Jacob Lake to Utah, if you can set up a shuttle, pretty big descent.
    Page's Rimview Trail is fun.
    Thunder Mountain is great, if open. Very special trail with hoodoos, close and similar to Bryce NP.
    Many Utah trails can be researched on utahmountainbiking.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abegold View Post
    Rainbow Rim on the north Rim of the Grand Canyon is special. Locust Point in the trails center is a good camping spot. Much of the riding is simply in pine forest hills till the views spots. Usually doesn't open till 4/15, check USFS as it's been dry. East Rim is even better riding, higher elevation, aspens/spruce/fir forest.
    There's also the northernmost section of the AZ Trail from Jacob Lake to Utah, if you can set up a shuttle, pretty big descent.
    Page's Rimview Trail is fun.
    Thunder Mountain is great, if open. Very special trail with hoodoos, close and similar to Bryce NP.
    Many Utah trails can be researched on utahmountainbiking.com.

    All of those trails (excluding the one in Page, which IMO is cnot worth making a special trip to) are very weather dependent and I wouldn't bet on any of them in the spring. Could you get lucky...absolutely, but you could also get rain/snowed out or end up riding on muddy trails which is a bummer.

    Best plan is an open plan. Check the forecast a few days out and then decide. As a guide that's what I try to encourage clients to do. Its a vacation, be flexible and we'll always find some kick a$$ riding.
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    Going to st. George next week for a family funeral. Will be riding Wed thru sat if anyones around for a ride. Definitely want to ride Goosberry since its been 8-10 years.

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    next week, if you were only doing 2 rides in St. George, how about Barrel Ride & Zen? good as any two?
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    Yeah I'll probably ride those two trails plus the Santa Clara reserve and Gooseberry for sure.

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    Hi UTES, I am planning on Gooseberry this weekend April 20th...
    I am hoping to drive my rv small 24 footer to the windmill trailhead and park and stay along the wooden rail fence. Last time I was in the area I had ridden VRRT, then the entire Hurricane Rim trail so by the time I got to gooseberry I was worn out. So wanting to spend more time exploring the goose.
    Maybe hit the gas station for pizza again it was good eats.

    How is the weather and the road?

    thanks a lot
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    road is in pretty good shape, gonna be mid 80's this weekend
    Read my BLOG!

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    I rode Goose last night after work. The roads are a little rough from the rains we had last weekend, but you will be fine getting your RV back there. Weather is perfect!

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    What is accessable via a sedan VW jetta on dirt roads near Hurricane? Not willing to crack an oil pan for a bike ride.

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    You should be able to access just about everything in your Jetta. JEM, Gould's, Hurricane Rim. Even Gooseberry is fine. If the road seems too rough just park at the first turn off and ride the 3-4 miles to the trails. Totally worth those couple miles of biking the dirt road if that's what you have to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstaples View Post
    You should be able to access just about everything in your Jetta. JEM, Gould's, Hurricane Rim. Even Gooseberry is fine. If the road seems too rough just park at the first turn off and ride the 3-4 miles to the trails. Totally worth those couple miles of biking the dirt road if that's what you have to do.

    how's the drive to Little Creek? Weather have it dry enough to ride?

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    Haven't been to Little Creek since late March but it should be good to go. Most of these trails around here dry up in just a day or two after rain. That road is also doable in a Jetta if you don't drive like a maniac.

    I don't know how much riding you have done here, but I would be careful hitting Little Creek without someone who has done it before. It can be really confusing and people throw up cairns left and right that lead to nowhere.

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    Am I carzy to think about riding Hurricane area the last week of June? I'm used to hot weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outlierrn View Post
    Am I carzy to think about riding Hurricane area the last week of June? I'm used to hot weather.
    It should be toasty but if that's not to your liking head to Thunder Mountain (7000'-8200'), Virgin River Rim Trail (9,300'), Navajo Lake or Brianhead (11,301'). Some day I'll get to Fish Lake and the Mytoge Mtn singletrack. Skyline Drive again, someday.
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