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    Singlespeed in Park City?

    Hi everyone. I am planning on a vacation with my family for next month to the beautiful Park City. I wanted to know how singlespeed friendly the trails were around there. Also, if you do SS up there, what gears are you riding? I currently have a 32x20, but could adjust accordingly beforehand. I realize this is a very subjective question, but wanted to throw it out there and hope to hear back. Thanks in advance. :-)
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    Lots of people do it.

    The Lower trails (Glen wild, Flying dog, Round Valley, etc) are great for a single speed. Climbing is a relatively gentle grades.
    The higher elevation trails have lots of climbing with 6-10% grades sustained for long periods. If your comfortable climbing a 8% grade for 45 minutes on your SS then you will be fine.
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    Why not give it a try.

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    What pedalfaraway said, plus:

    Lots of people do it. However, I haven't run into too many tourists in Park City on singlespeeds.
    The base of Park City is at 7000 feet and goes up from there. What elevation do you ride at normally and how much climbing do you tackle in a ride? Are you prepared for a minimum 45 minute climb starting at 7000 feet in elevation? Please submit your riding resume...

    Strava and Garmin Connect websites can allow you to look at rides in the area and get a feel for elevation and time. Personally, when I go to a new region to ride, I want to log as many miles as possible. The gears and suspension give me that luxury.

    The trails Round Valley and Glenwild areas in the PC region are pretty SS friendly and I enjoy the SS when I'm riding those areas, but I grab the gears and suspension when I ride at the main Park City / Deer Valley trails due the long climbs and descents.

    As always, YMMV. Enjoy your time in Park City. It's an awesome place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalfaraway View Post
    Lots of people do it.

    The Lower trails (Glen wild, Flying dog, Round Valley, etc) are great for a single speed. Climbing is a relatively gentle grades.
    The higher elevation trails have lots of climbing with 6-10% grades sustained for long periods. If your comfortable climbing a 8% grade for 45 minutes on your SS then you will be fine.
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    Why not give it a try.
    Quote Originally Posted by charcist View Post
    What pedalfaraway said, plus:

    Lots of people do it. However, I haven't run into too many tourists in Park City on singlespeeds.
    The base of Park City is at 7000 feet and goes up from there. What elevation do you ride at normally and how much climbing do you tackle in a ride? Are you prepared for a minimum 45 minute climb starting at 7000 feet in elevation? Please submit your riding resume...

    Strava and Garmin Connect websites can allow you to look at rides in the area and get a feel for elevation and time. Personally, when I go to a new region to ride, I want to log as many miles as possible. The gears and suspension give me that luxury.

    The trails Round Valley and Glenwild areas in the PC region are pretty SS friendly and I enjoy the SS when I'm riding those areas, but I grab the gears and suspension when I ride at the main Park City / Deer Valley trails due the long climbs and descents.

    As always, YMMV. Enjoy your time in Park City. It's an awesome place.
    Thanks, guys. I really appreciate the feedback! I am going to bring the SS, as I am vacationing with my family and want a bit of a challenge while we all ride together. I will break away for at least 3 solo rides, unless any of you would like to join me.

    I ride quite a bit in Phoenix and have gone up north to Sedona, Prescott, and Flagstaff to ride at elevation.

    The SS is currently geared at 32x20. I will also bring a 22t cog to gear down, if necessary.

    Charcist: what is your gearing on the SS?
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    My brother lives there (I'm moving out there in a couple days!) and all he rides off-road is a rigid SS. He's on the forums here from time to time but i forget his handle, I'll see if I can get him to chime in on this one. I do remember him saying he had it geared fairly light, because he found that uphill was the only time he was pedalling. Downhill the gearing didn't matter because it was all gravity anyway.
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    I'm geared 32x20 on a 26". My wife runs 32x21 on a 29".

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    Sounds like you've done plenty SS'ing. Leave the 22T at home, because you won't need it. 32x20 on a 29er is great for all trails in PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phsycle View Post
    Sounds like you've done plenty SS'ing. Leave the 22T at home, because you won't need it. 32x20 on a 29er is great for all trails in PC.
    Yeah, you'll scoot right up Sweeny's with that gearing!

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    Thanks, guys! Much appreciated on all the feedback. I will give it a go at 32x20 and if I am dying, I will go to a 21t or 22t.

    Flying Dog, GlenWild, Armstrong, Mid-mountain and Round Valley, here I come!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSU Alum View Post
    Yeah, you'll scoot right up Sweeny's with that gearing!
    Challenge.....ugh-ccepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSU Alum View Post
    Yeah, you'll scoot right up Sweeny's with that gearing!
    Quote Originally Posted by phsycle View Post
    Challenge.....ugh-ccepted.

    Looks like I will be coming down Sweeny if I go the popular route... No?

    Just an example in a ride I found: Bike Ride Profile | Spiro/Powerline/Shadow Lake/Keystone/Steps/John's/Sweeney near Park City | Times and Records | Strava
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    Make sure to check the basin rec center trail condition page since we just got some snow and a ton of rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomvader View Post
    Looks like I will be coming down Sweeny if I go the popular route... No?

    Just an example in a ride I found: Bike Ride Profile | Spiro/Powerline/Shadow Lake/Keystone/Steps/John's/Sweeney near Park City | Times and Records | Strava
    Go up Sweeny's, Johns, anyone can go down them. I expect the top of johns may yet be wet. There is a nice climb in Pinebrook that is off the radar screen. If anyone wants to go on that ride let me know and I'll join you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phsycle View Post
    Challenge.....ugh-ccepted.
    20 years ago it would have been a challenge. Challenges are sleeping through the night and tracking down my car keys. Now I just want to show off my home town.

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    Singlespeed in Park City?

    Quote Originally Posted by MSU Alum View Post
    20 years ago it would have been a challenge. Challenges are sleeping through the night and tracking down my car keys. Now I just want to show off my home town.
    That is too funny!

    Just arrived a couple of hours ago. What a beautiful town! Cannot wait to ride!
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    Singlespeed in Park City?

    Johns is dry all the way to the top and in primo shape. One snow pile at the start of johns 99 but dry other wise. No way you could make it to keystone or shadow lake without skis.

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    I may have to head up Sweeny's/Johns, back down to 99 and across Gravedigger and down Rossi this afternoon!

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    Singlespeed in Park City?

    Are any of you guys on Strava?
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    Well, where did you ride today and how was the gearing?

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    Singlespeed in Park City?

    We did a small family ride in the round valley area, including Matt's Flats. About 13 miles round trip from downtown. Wife and kids hung in there and had a great time. My SS gearing was not an issue for that ride.

    http://app.strava.com/activities/57581766

    I am planning on doing a solo ride tomorrow. Trying to put a route together that includes Armstrong, Spiro, and Mid mountain. Somewhere around 30 miles. Do you have a loop that you usually do that incorporates those trails and more?

    What an awesome town! I am loving it!
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    There is an interactive function on this site for building routes. Mountain Trails Foundation
    I think it also has conditions for the trails listed.

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    This time of the year you have to be a little creative to get 30 miles. I'd probably climb Armstrong, hook a left on MM, descend Spiro, cross the PCMR parking lot, up Sweeny's and John's, on to John's 99, up Little Chief to MM, right on MM toward Park City and finally descend Jenni's back to the PCMR parking lot. I'm guessing that would be in the 25ish mile range with a little bit of every thing PC has to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    This time of the year you have to be a little creative to get 30 miles. I'd probably climb Armstrong, hook a left on MM, descend Spiro, cross the PCMR parking lot, up Sweeny's and John's, on to John's 99, up Little Chief to MM, right on MM toward Park City and finally descend Jenni's back to the PCMR parking lot. I'm guessing that would be in the 25ish mile range with a little bit of every thing PC has to offer.
    That would be a nice route for this time of year! I applaud your recommendation of climbing Sweeney's and John's!

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    Singlespeed in Park City?

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    Singlespeed in Park City?

    Just climbed Armstrong and Mid Mountain. Sitting on a bench trail side enjoying the view and what will surely become one of my favorite rides of all time!

    Thanks, guys!
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    Is porcupine open yet? Throw the crest in and you could make one hell of a day but I'm guessing the crest is still muddy as well?

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    The Mid Mountain goes from Pinebrook to Deer Valley...lots of options. As you head north, you'll come to Team Big Bear. Nice ride, if you run into snow, how about a ride report. I went up Collin's/Robs last week and ran into snow prior to intercepting the MM, but it may have cleared by now.

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    @MSU Yeah John's is by far my favorite Park City trail and in my top 5 trails any where. I like riding down it, but love climbing it. Even after years of riding it I don't alway's ride it clean from bottom to top.

    As far as trail conditions...word is Porcipine is good about half way up, but the crest is still snow packed. A buddy claims to have ridden Armstrong, MM and down Rob's earlier this week but haven't had a chance to ask him how much (if any) hiking was involved. Another friend made it to Shadow Lake yesterday, but had to hike a bike through the snow for the last couple hundered yards prior to the lake.

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    Thanks ripn. Yeah, if I clean S/J I'm a happy guy. As you go up John's, I think you get to a left hand cut off that's John's99 (after 20 years, I'm still gooning up the names) which drops down across the PCMR access road and onto Gravediggere. There's a final climb up at the end that is a killer. If you haven't tried that variation, I think you'd like it. Also, there's a nice, hard climb in Pinebrook ... here's the climb, not sure if this will help you find it or not, but it's another hard climb. It starts out behind houses, so caution for pedestrians is good:
    Activity by Joe N (01 Jun, 2013 | Mountain Biking | 3.05 mi | 00:47:59)

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    MSU- I think that climb over by Gravedigger might be Speedbag/Ore Cart. Haven't ridden that in at least a few years, but remember it being a mother. Very steep, a little gravely/loose and overgrown? Tried to pull up your map for the Pinebrook trail, but didn't allow me to see it. Another tough one is upper Apex/Dead Tree trails. Never even gotten close to cleaning those. If I am doing an "over the top" ride I normally take the Jupiter access road and cut over to the top of Dead Tree so I can avoid the walk of shame.

    @boomvader: Sorry for the thread hijack. What else did you end up riding? The one speed work out ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    MSU- I think that climb over by Gravedigger might be Speedbag/Ore Cart. Haven't ridden that in at least a few years, but remember it being a mother. Very steep, a little gravely/loose and overgrown?
    @boomvader: Sorry for the thread hijack. What else did you end up riding? The one speed work out ok?
    Boomvader, I'll also apologize, but...ripn, sorry, that's 420 that leads to Gravedigger, not John's 99. I just rode it. For the first time in the history of our solar system, I cleaned all three - Sweeney's, John's and Gravedigger. Even better, my 22 year old son flubbed Gravedigger! Celebrated with milk chocolate pecan bears at Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory and much verbal abuse of my son. I agree on the unrideable (for me) trails you mentioned.

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    Boom, this may be made for you. I expect it's all dry. Coyote Canyon, I think the shortest loop is 20 miles...report back.... Utah Mountain Biking - Trails, Information, Repairs

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    Singlespeed in Park City?

    No worries on the hi-jack! I appreciate the information!

    Today's ride was amazing. Up Armstrong, left on Mid Mountain for a while, until I decided to go back and catch Spiro down. I wasn't quite sure how far to take Mid Mountain and needed to be back by 11:00.

    http://app.strava.com/activities/57751658

    Bob's Basin tomorrow with the family!

    32x20t was fine today. I didn't have to walk anything.
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    Singlespeed in Park City?

    Quote Originally Posted by MSU Alum View Post
    Boom, this may be made for you. I expect it's all dry. Coyote Canyon, I think the shortest loop is 20 miles...report back.... Utah Mountain Biking - Trails, Information, Repairs
    This link did not show what I think you wanted it to.

    I will do a search on Coyote Canyon. Thanks!
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    Singlespeed in Park City?

    Just finished up my week in Park City. My family and I had a blast! I rode 125 miles and climbed over 15,000' of Park City's trails on the 32x20 SS. I hit a good survey of trails, but left more to explore on our next visit.

    Armstrong, Mid Mtn, Johns, Sweeny, Spiro, Rob's, Bear Hollow, Glennwild, Round Valley, Trailside Bike Park....

    I don't want to leave! :-)

    Also, the folks at Jan's and White Pine are a very friendly and helpful group. Highly recommended!

    Last, but not least.... The weather was perfect!

    Thanks guys for getting me pointed on the right direction! Please feel free to ping me if you venture south to Arizona.
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