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    @ Mostly Broken:I just came back from Moab today Do EZ/Lazy and North 40 at the Bar M trailhead, which is very well marked right off the main highway north of town. EZ/Lazy is a big loop, fast with very little tech stuff, North 40 is a 4 mile loop. If she feels up to something harder the next day try Mag 7, Get dropped off near Gemini Bridges (start of Bull run). You may want to have a shuttle pick you up at the end of Little Canyon cause otherwise the two-trackroad back to Highway 191 is uphill and pretty sandy

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    @ Donkey Kong..Bring atleast 100 oz of water for The Whole Enchilada..You can ride it from Burro thru Porcupine Rim and onto single track which goes beside the river..If youre scared of heights at all dont do these trails, much of the time they ride less than 10 feet from cliffs..If you get a shuttle to meet you at "negro bills" parking area your ride will be about 26 miles,,I found that due to elevation it takes about twice as long as I usually take to ride the same distance. PS- Bring lots of spare tubes, I saw one guy get 5 flats and he ran out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpranger467 View Post
    Do EZ/Lazy and North 40 at the Bar M trailhead, which is very well marked right off the main highway north of town. EZ/Lazy is a big loop, fast with very little tech stuff, North 40 is a 4 mile loop.
    Ez/Lazy loop is 3 miles and like ranger said, is not ver technical at all. I wouldn't recommend North 40 for a novice personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkeykong0 View Post
    If I show up next weekend on Saturday afternoon, will most of the good camp sites be gone? Thinking Sand Flats...but never been.

    Also, if I get a shuttle to do the Whole Enchilada, is riding back to SF gonna be really tough after the 25 mile beatdown? What's the best way to get back? Would camping on the river be a better option or will it be colder with less sun down that way?



    I would look to stay along the river. The Whole Enchilada ends with Porcupine Rim which leads past the river camping. You will want to just drop at this point! Sand Flats after this would be tough! Plus camping along river is nicer/quieter/less dusty etc. $8 you can't go wrong!

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    thanks everyone for the help on planning a trip, would poison spider have maps or can I download and print something myself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly Broken View Post
    thanks everyone for the help on planning a trip, would poison spider have maps or can I download and print something myself?


    They have free maps for Slickrock and Whole Enchilada. I would also recommend dropping in Uranium Bike Shop and picking up the 4th edition Mountain Bike Guide to Moab. It is on sale for $8 and is a great reference in addition to the free maps from Poison Spider. Trails are extremely well marked though with the exception of a few broken signs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly Broken View Post
    thanks everyone for the help on planning a trip, would poison spider have maps or can I download and print something myself?
    Check out Utah Mountain Biking - Trails, Information, Repairs for maps and gpx files
    Ride On!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpranger467 View Post
    @ Donkey Kong..Bring atleast 100 oz of water for The Whole Enchilada..You can ride it from Burro thru Porcupine Rim and onto single track which goes beside the river..If youre scared of heights at all dont do these trails, much of the time they ride less than 10 feet from cliffs..If you get a shuttle to meet you at "negro bills" parking area your ride will be about 26 miles,,I found that due to elevation it takes about twice as long as I usually take to ride the same distance. PS- Bring lots of spare tubes, I saw one guy get 5 flats and he ran out.
    Quote Originally Posted by rbbs View Post
    I would look to stay along the river. The Whole Enchilada ends with Porcupine Rim which leads past the river camping. You will want to just drop at this point! Sand Flats after this would be tough! Plus camping along river is nicer/quieter/less dusty etc. $8 you can't go wrong!
    Thanks! Guy from bike shop said there could be some winter weather moving in...hopefully TWE is still rideable.

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    Any updates on Burro Pass? Is it still good to go? Hopefully this storm that's rolling in tomorrow doesn't get too nasty. My current plan is TWE on Saturday.

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    I can see the peaks from where I am sitting. High clouds, no snow so far.

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    I'm guessing there's no way Burro Pass will be rideable by Saturday with the storm coming. We have a shuttle planned with Poison Spider, but I think we'll be lucky if we get up to UPS/LPS.

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    Moabman, We are also planning on riding TWE tomorrow. Keep us posted
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    http://onetrailatatime.blogspot.com

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    Light dusting of snow on the La Sals this morning.
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    saw some snow up there about dawn, but cant see that high now, can barely see the rim. Been raining since before dawn. heavy at first, moderately at the moment.
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    So tomorrow we are looking at Hero Dirt...or a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GageGillings View Post
    So tomorrow we are looking at Hero Dirt...or a mess.
    I've experienced nothing but hero dirt 24hours after rain here. You'll be fine. Bi-polar weather - monsoon like. La Sals are socked in. Snow wouldn't surprise me. The good news is it's rather mild down in Moab right now.

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    Could i get an update on conditions after the storm passes through. I'm looking to come out for a few days at the end of next week, driving from cali so i want to make sure conditions are good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mt. Tam Haze View Post
    Could i get an update on conditions after the storm passes through. I'm looking to come out for a few days at the end of next week, driving from cali so i want to make sure conditions are good.
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    Still foggy up there. Worst case, you won't be able to ride Burro. Everything else is Primo.

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    well I talked with my wife about the trails that were suggested and she just chimed in "how about slick rock" I didn't argue so we are doing it tomorrow. the rain was crazy today but we drove through the park and saw tons of water falls all over. my ten year old is coming along for the ride tomorrow as well but we are only doing the slick rock practice loop, we shall see how they feel after that for another ride somewhere else but my wife is pushing to hit goblin valley on the way home so may be a crunch for time.

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    It rained off and on today, the lower trails were in good shape. I'll find out tomorrow morning how the upper stuff is. The shuttle driver wasn't sure yet on conditions above LPS.

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    Slickrock

    I didnt do the practice loop at slickrock (did the 12 mile portion) but from what I understand its no easier (skills needed) than the rest of the trail. That being said,,it is very steep in some places, I personally feel like a 26 felt better than a 29 at SL,,and rent from a place that has a dropper post, you'll love it though,,

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    Great Moab Trip. Ended up riding the Entire Whole Enchilada. The car couldn't make it all the way up to Geyser Pass so we pedaled up the road and rode/hiked/carried our bikes to the Top of Burro in 4-6 inches of snow. Burro was covered in snow at the top and Hero dirt down farther. Only place we had to walk was on parts of Kokopelli. It was a fantastic adventure ride. Ended up riding about 35 miles. Snow and 30 degrees on top, sun and 70 at the bottom.

    A few Pics are on our facebook page below.
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    I'll be in Moab with la-prego-wife and inlaws next weekend Friday-Sunday. I'd love to tag along on some people's rides and won't slow you down. PM me or email DanOrion at yaho dot com.

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    We ended up riding laz ez instead of the slick rock practice loop. my 10 yr old had fun and wants a bike now. Looking for a kids 24 inch. to have my kid like mountain biking made the trip even better. now to find a decent deal on a bike for him!

    thanks for the help everyone. looking forward to going again

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    Will be in Moab 10/19-10/25. Looking to join in on some afternoon rides. Any good ideas on how to connect with riders ??

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    Hi guys,

    Do you think spending 5 days at Moab for thanksgiving is a good idea ?
    Is there snow up there by this time of year ?

    I'm desperately looking for a good ride location

    Thanks

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    At this point any sort of weather will likely cover Burro untill Spring. Quite possible more. Aside from that, it would be pretty unlikely to be skunked around that time of year.
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    what's the word on Burro Pass now? muddy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by afraid View Post
    what's the word on Burro Pass now? muddy?
    More like frozen. Clear and rideable but ice on some of the corners near the top.

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    Conditions updates

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    More like frozen. Clear and rideable but ice on some of the corners near the top.
    Guy at Poison Spider I just talked to was no bueno on burro... but I like a bit of adventure. Couldn't get more details but he was pretty adamant that LPS was "as high as you can ride" right now.

    anyone have any first hand confirmation/ride reports of burro/hazard?

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    When I wrote that, Burro was indeed open. System has since passed through. LPS is indeed as high as you can go. Warming trend is coming our way. That being siad, if we see Hazard again this year, i'll be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    When I wrote that, Burro was indeed open. System has since passed through. LPS is indeed as high as you can go. Warming trend is coming our way. That being siad, if we see Hazard again this year, i'll be surprised.
    I hiked up to Burro Pass on Saturday- snowy, but looked ok. I looped the entire enchilada on Sunday:

    Geyser Pass Rd: Snow packed starting around 9,000' - good riding. not too sloppy but that could change if the warm weather continues

    Burro Pass Trail: 90% snow- deep just over the pass. 70% rideable. Snow-bound adventure-fest

    Hazard: Some snow- but mostly snow-free- nothing deep, tacky dirt- no mud, will only get better till next storm

    Once you hit the end of Hazard there's no more snow anywhere.

    Get it while you can

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    Any current updates on UPS status? Hoping you guys dodged the recent snow storm. I was thinking about riding up Kokopelli and hopefully getting in UPS/LPS PR.

    Thanks for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foote30 View Post
    Any current updates on UPS status? Hoping you guys dodged the recent snow storm. I was thinking about riding up Kokopelli and hopefully getting in UPS/LPS PR.

    Thanks for the help
    Nope. Porcupine proper had snow this last weekend. LPS if you are lucky.

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    Bummer. You guys must have had more snow than we got in Colorado. Looks like I will have to find something lower in the valleys to ride, maybe check out that new 7up to Mag 7 loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foote30 View Post
    Bummer. You guys must have had more snow than we got in Colorado. Looks like I will have to find something lower in the valleys to ride, maybe check out that new 7up to Mag 7 loop.
    Haven't been up to the LaSals but it does indeed look like they got a decent dumping this past weekend.

    I have not ridden 7up yet. Evidently most of it is double track. Getaway, however, is all singletrack, creates a great loop with arths, getaway and bull run and has been getting rave reviews... Have fun.

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    I haven't ridden 7up either. Just learned of it. Write up on UMB.com looks good, plus anyway to avoid the shuttle up 313 will be awesome and should shape up to be a great loop ride.

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    what trails are going to be rideable for this weekend? has most the snow melted?

    looking at possibly doing a couple different rides:

    1.fisher mesa and 2.top of the world, I know fisher mesa is higher elevation so maybe a no go?

    are the classics clear like soverign, slickrock and amassa back?

    thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmar123 View Post
    what trails are going to be rideable for this weekend? has most the snow melted?

    looking at possibly doing a couple different rides:

    1.fisher mesa and 2.top of the world, I know fisher mesa is higher elevation so maybe a no go?

    are the classics clear like soverign, slickrock and amassa back?

    thanks!!

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    Anything in the La Sals is unrideable. Everything else is ridable. Fisher mesa trail head is at like 8500 feet. I'm sure there is at least some snow, if not unridable at higher elvevations.

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    awesome thanks!

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    Rode 7UP and Mag 7 yesterday, no snow at all and the trails were good to go.

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    Porcupine Rim on Sunday-- awesome and tacky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honkinunit View Post
    If you are hotelling it, and you plan on actually being there across Thanksgiving, you might want to make reservations, as half of Denver now shows up for one last ride before breaking out the skis.
    LMFAO

    Dude that's me, old lady and I are here for the weekend from the Denver area!

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    I'm going with a class from school to Moab for spring break. Am i crazy to take my SS rigid niner? What am I in for as far as terrain, and what would be more important, suspension or gears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigstevo View Post
    I'm going with a class from school to Moab for spring break. Am i crazy to take my SS rigid niner? What am I in for as far as terrain, and what would be more important, suspension or gears?
    I think it all depends on where you're going to be riding, and how much riding you'll be doing. I think you'd be just fine on the SS Rigid Niner at the places I rode over Turkey day with my GF. Which were the Dead horse State park and the Bar-M/Moab Brands Trails. Both of those places had very little climbing and would be fine a SS. That's the cool thing about Moab, is there's so many trails that you can find terrain to suit every bike and rider.

    If you're going to do The Slick Rock Trail or some technical trails, rent a bike for the day. My GF rented a SantaCruz Superlight 29'r from Moab Cyclery and I believe it was ~$50/day.

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    Well I ride a SS niner hardtail, although I do have a REBA up front. I have ridden pretty much every trail I am familiar with in Moab on my bike since it is the only bike I ride and I have always been happy. Truthfully on longer rides all of those slabby rock sections that Moab is so famous for can get a little abusive but heck thats half the fun of riding a rigid right? As far as climbing and such that really depends on what you define is a lot of climbing. Most Moab trails tend to have some climbing although not an insane amount in my opinion at least.

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    Thanks for the help. I don't mind climbing, or walking that is. If we plan on doing some crazy slick rock sections I'll probably go with the rental idea. Prices seem fair for decent equipment. I guess it just comes down to trail selection once I get down there. Good to hear at least one other lunatic has ridden a ss in Moab, gives me a better feeling about it.

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    People ride them all the time. That being said, I used to ride a whole lot more before I moved here. I totally miss it. There is all sorts of climbing around here to be had, however a lot of the desert stuff is say 1K - 1.5K of climbing on a ~10mile ride with the ex exception of Bar M and Intrepid. I have a 100mm fork on my SS and after a day of riding it, I can't wait to get back on the squish.

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    26 FS for Slickrock

    If you havent been there before you will find that Slick Rock feels steeper that what the pics show. So just my opinion, but I rode a 29 on slickrock and felt I was way to high (center of gravity), I swapped to my friends 26 fs and felt much better, I was able to hit more of the steep rides with confidence.

    I did do Whole Enchilada on a 26 and loved it for the first mile or so (steep switchbacks), Then I wanted a 29 as it got rocky and bumpy. Again in my opinion I would do a FS for everything but the Bar M trails which are mainly flat. Again my opinion, If you do WH on a HT it will rattle the crap out of you and you will be exhausted halfway thru.

    My favorite trail there was Mag 7, you could build up some good speed and the trail had nice flow. There is a cut-off ride out part that was a leg burner but I would hit Mag 7 before any other trail.

    Remember bring lots of tubes (and repair kits) many of these trails have no help anywhere close and a broken bike could mean a 15 mile walk
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    Hello all, been thinking of going to Moab the second week of Feb for some riding. I've been there for Easter Jeep Safari with my Jeep in April, however have not been there in Feb.

    How's the weather for riding? Too cold? I don't like below 35 or so for l day riding. Thanks!

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