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    Quote Originally Posted by Horup
    I'm going to Moab around the 20th-21th of april. I'll probably arrive in the afternoon and then have one or two full days before we have to move on.
    I think that I'll go with a guide on 2 day tours (it's always more fun to ride with someone, than riding alone + i wanna ride the best trails).

    My questions are:
    - should I reserve a bike and make and appointment in advance?
    - should I reserve hotel/motel in advance?
    - Is it possible to rent helmet, shoes etc?

    Ps: I'm from Denmark and have been dreaming of this since I started mountainbiking many years ago, and now I have the chance! Can't wait to go
    I would strongly recommend reserving a bike and motel. I'm not sure about renting helmets, shoes etc. I've only been to Moab once for a week and it was as good if not better than everyone raves about. Hope you have a great time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horup
    I'm going to Moab around the 20th-21th of april. I'll probably arrive in the afternoon and then have one or two full days before we have to move on.
    I think that I'll go with a guide on 2 day tours (it's always more fun to ride with someone, than riding alone + i wanna ride the best trails).

    My questions are:
    - should I reserve a bike and make and appointment in advance?
    - should I reserve hotel/motel in advance?
    - Is it possible to rent helmet, shoes etc?

    Ps: I'm from Denmark and have been dreaming of this since I started mountainbiking many years ago, and now I have the chance! Can't wait to go
    If you are planning to do day tours, you don't need to worry about reserving a bike. You should be able to rent a bike from the company offering the tour. I would start checking into the tours now though.

    You should DEFINITELY reserve your room in advance. Luckily you're planning on weekdays. It will still be busy though. Reserve ASAP.

    A helmet will be included with any bike you rent. I don't believe anyone in Moab rents cycling shoes.

    Have fun,

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    Sorry in advanced if this has been covered, I checked through the postings...is there a bike friendly motel that allows the bikes inside the room? I have glanced at the motels and notice that they have secured bike storage, but don't mention if you can put them in the room. Thanks for your help.

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    Silver Sage Inn. Dude that runs the place is really cool!

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    rustic inn

    We stayed at the Rustic Inn based in the center of town. Really nice place, relatively cheap and they allow bikes in the room. They even had a sheet for my bike in the room
    It was pretty difficult to find a place to stay, so I'd recommend booking in advance - luckily we came just between the easter jeep weekend and some kind of car show, so we were able to get a place to stay after trying 3-4 different inns...

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    How sad about the spring being shut down! Is it still closed? Permanently?
    I used to fill up there in the early 90's!
    Bummer.
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    She used to clean the whole trail.

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    Read the thread. Got my Lat 40 map. Been doing a lot of research...BUT

    Please name specific trails that are good for the HOT weather? I will be there this coming week and Utah's first warm front is hitting : ( SO, I've got a few days of 90 deg temps before it cools back down into the 80's.

    I need two days worth of riding in the 90's.

    Your help is greatly appreciated. thx. BQ
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    Great thread and info, thanks!

    I was looking to camp at Big Bend (tent) this weekend, or am I kidding myself? Will all the camping right around Moab be filled up?

    Also, any problems with snakes / scopions at campgrounds, generally?

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    To answer my own question and help others, when it's hot in Moab you can find free camping up in the National Forest and because of the higher altitude it's much cooler, about 15deg. It's a long drive up, but I think it's well worth it. It was 97deg in Moab and at our campsite it was 79deg! From there you can hit the LPS/UPS, Kokepelli, Hazard trails which are all fun in their own ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bquinn
    To answer my own question and help others, when it's hot in Moab you can find free camping up in the National Forest and because of the higher altitude it's much cooler, about 15deg. It's a long drive up, but I think it's well worth it. It was 97deg in Moab and at our campsite it was 79deg! From there you can hit the LPS/UPS, Kokepelli, Hazard trails which are all fun in their own ways.
    Where exactly are you talking about camping in the national forest? Warner lake? I am headed out on June 16th for a week and we are looking for a cooler camp spot.
    Thanks

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    camping moab

    Warner Lake, sure, or Oowah lake. take some mosquito repellant, it's that time of year. Great camping high on sand flats road, in the vicinity of where ups and lps meet...
    Nights may not be that hot in June, and it's dry heat, the desert evening in June is the best!
    If you're gonna be in the camp during the day, take your own shade in some form or another, that will help.

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    July visit

    I'm driving down to Arizona from Seattle to mountain bike in Flagstaff and visit friends in Sedona & Phoenix, 6/27 - 7/5. I thought I would stop in Moab for 2 days and ride around. It seems I will have to ride between dawn (6am) and be off the trail before 9 or 10am. I have a 3L camelbak and two 20oz water bottles.

    Looking for good rides to do in this timeframe. I'm from the Northwest, my favorite types of rides are 1) ride up big mountain, singletrack down and 2) rolling hills. Would be open to a guided ride if it wasn't incredibly expensive. I'm comfortable with technical trails and I'm in good shape.
    Really, though, I'll be happy with anything that gives me a good workout and lets me see a little of the amazing scenery.

    Currently reading Lee Bridger's "Mountain Biking Moab," 2/5 sections so far. I've flagged his Klondike Bluffs and Arches Loop. Any insight on those? I'll come back and post some more here once I've flagged some more.

    Tent camping for 2 nights, I heard the nights are awesome out there in the summer. Thanks!

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    Manuelw Im in sort of the same boat. Im going to passing right by moab this month on my way out to LA then coming right back by it on my way back in September. You riding by yourself? Im leaning more towards september as hopefully it wont be quite so hott.


    This next bits more for any one to answer


    I had the thought to do slick rock by myself, Im a fairly strong rider but am hesitant to go it alone. Never ridden the trail or been to moab. I assumed it being sucha famous trail that it wouldnt be much of a problem to just fall in with another group of riders.

    On that note any one know of any local groups or bike shops I could contact to see if any one wants to go for a ride?

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    Update - road trip canceled. I just found out my Subaru's head gasket is leaking pretty badly, so no 3,000 mile road trips into the desert for me. Maybe in the fall or next spring.

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    I don't know of any groups. I would just go to the trailhead at 8 a.m. In september dozens of people will be riding the trail on any given morning, there should be someone to hook up with.
    The later in the year and the earlier in the morning you ride, the better, due to heat.
    Close to the time you're coming to moab, drop me a PM, and if I'm not working that day maybe we can ride it together.
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    If anyone is paying attention to this thread ...

    I am planning to head out to Moab from Summit County, CO either this weekend or early/mid next week. I am definitely going to camp, because I love it and it's easier on the wallet. Now, it's currently 3:39am, and I have been reading, researching and looking over oodles of websites. My eyes are beginning to blur, and I think I still have some questions.

    Camping means no shower facilities. Yet, I may like to rinse off, if I am going to sit down at the brewery to sample and grub. I saw someone mentioned that the Poison Spider bike shop had showers that you could pay to use. Is that still the case? Also, do they have a hose that riders can use to wash bikes? If not there, is there a place where you can hose down a bike?

    I have read how there isn't any free dispersed camping within 10miles of town any longer. Someone mentioned free camping in the NF land. What road takes me to the NF land, and how far away from town is it?

    If I stay in a BLM campground with a site along the river, is jumping in the river for a rinse/cooldown a big no-no?

    I'm forgetting something that I want to ask, but I need to sleep.

    EDIT: Now I remeber -- I think -- or maybe they're just new questions ... anyway, aside from the brewery, where else is a good place to get a pint? And, is the pizza at Zax's good?

    Also, if anyone sees a red VW GTI MKIII with roof rack, silver Santa Cruz Blur XC, or an orange and yellow Marmot tent ... feel free to show me how to ride or grab a beer from my cooler.
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    showers

    Last time I checked, Poison Spyder had showers and a hose to wash off a bike.
    Rim Cyclery has a hose too.
    Showers are easy to buy in Moab. Most of the RV campgrounds rent them, as well as Up The Creek Campground on 300 south street just east of Main st.
    Zaks pizza is fine, the all you can eat price is has gone up over the years but is still agood deal for those of us who can wolf down 4 or 5 slices or more.
    There is a new, locally owned gourmetish type pizza rest. in town for the healthy minded.
    It's called paradox pizza, just next to moab brewery, which also serves alround good brewery food.

    I wouldnt recommend jumping in the river. We've lost two visitors this year already to drowning. Besides even in Moab October isnt exactly the right temp for it.
    The 4 wheel drive roads that access sovereign trail, behind the rocks and
    klondike bluffs all have campsites on blm land. If they are all swamped, people park in the parking lot of the dalton wells trailhead all the time.

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    Just back from the 24 Hours of Moab

    The crew from FlashBak Lighting Systems went out to Moab for the 24 hour race this year(2009)! The track was difficult, but fair. Weather was perfect!(daytime=70's, nighttime=50's) They had some rain the week before the race, so dust was kept to a minimum. When we had a break in the action, we snuck out to ride a few trails. We selected The Baby Steps Loop to the Klondike Bluffs trail. WOW! What a ride. We hit rolling slick rock, winding single-track, killer downhill bombs, and along the way, we found the dinosaur tracks that we were told to look for. That was very cool. They look like really big lizard tracks in mud.....but its rock! Dinosaur tracks along a ride.....that was a first for me.
    After the ride, we returned to the race. We wondered the entire event talking to vendors, racers, and spectators. We handed out several FlashBaks to people who we thought might enjoy our product, or who are in a position to help us promote our lights(usually by performing a product review or writing a story).
    Anyway. The road trip was fun, the riding was awesome, and what a group of fun people! We will definitely be going back next year. My hats off to Granny Gear Productions, they really know how to set up a cool race!
    If you get the chance to go to Moab....GO! If you have the chance to go to The 24 Hours of Moab........GO FOR SURE!!!!

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    New question here. Weather after X-Mas

    Hey Moab locals, what are the chances of there being some good riding right after Christmas? Last I heard you all are under 6 inches of snow. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountainbikextremist
    Hey Moab locals, what are the chances of there being some good riding right after Christmas? Last I heard you all are under 6 inches of snow. Thanks!
    This is a good place note what the weather conditions have been in Moab over the past 10 days. People are always wondering what the weather is like around Christmas.

    8 inches of snow fell in town on December 8th, with a foot in Spanish Valley, and 18 inches at Porcupine Rim. Schools were closed for the first time in 25 years. Immediately after that, there were three nights of -10F at the airport (yes MINUS 10 degrees), followed by an extended run of cold weather that continues up to today, 12/17. It has not been above freezing during that time.

    The forecast is for highs in the mid-30s and lows in the mid teens for the foreseeable future. Fruita and GJ are also cold and snowed in.

    It is a good time to be boarding or skiing.

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    Wow, thats crazy....I hear that people are wearing shorts in Denver right now???

    Quote Originally Posted by honkinunit
    This is a good place note what the weather conditions have been in Moab over the past 10 days. People are always wondering what the weather is like around Christmas.

    8 inches of snow fell in town on December 8th, with a foot in Spanish Valley, and 18 inches at Porcupine Rim. Schools were closed for the first time in 25 years. Immediately after that, there were three nights of -10F at the airport (yes MINUS 10 degrees), followed by an extended run of cold weather that continues up to today, 12/17. It has not been above freezing during that time.

    The forecast is for highs in the mid-30s and lows in the mid teens for the foreseeable future. Fruita and GJ are also cold and snowed in.

    It is a good time to be boarding or skiing.
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    moab river running

    will be in moab the last week in april, will the river running outfits be open? and if so then whats a good one for a day trip?

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    So what's the hot mountain biker hotel to crash at for a few nights? Silver Stage Inn still a good bet?

    Zaks pizza still the place to get our grub on?
    And what's the name of the breakfast cafe place again?

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    MOAB Mtb with Solfun

    Hi,
    I am planning a 4 day mtb trip in Moab starting 4/28.
    Our current plan is to do 3 days at Moab - slick rock, porcupine rim and Sovereign , plus one day at Fruita.
    First, I would appreciate any comments on this plan - are we missing any great trains in the area ?
    Second - I understand there are many trails in Fruita - any specific recommendation ?

    Last but not least - we are planning to ride with Solfun - Does anyone have any experience with them and can share the goods and the bads



    Thanks, Dror

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    How long do you have to wait after a rain storm to ride? We are going in May, and I hear that it may rain on us. Do the rocks dry off pretty quick, or are there some trails that are ridable wet?
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adventurecycle
    How long do you have to wait after a rain storm to ride? We are going in May, and I hear that it may rain on us. Do the rocks dry off pretty quick, or are there some trails that are ridable wet?
    Thanks!
    Unless it rains for a long time, the trails dry out really quickly. There are several trails that are actually more fun after it rains because the sand is much easier to cross, namely Poison Spider and parts of Slickrock.

    I have heard Sovereign gets muddy and is best avoided during or after rain?

    A local rider would have more specific info, but you should be fine even if there are occasional thundershowers during your trip.

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    Bike Part Vending Machine on way to Slick Rock

    If you're arriving in town late and need supplies (trail map, tube, lube etc) for an early start the next morning, stop by the bike part vending machine that takes credit cards and is open 24/7..see www.24hrBikeShop.com for the vending machine location in Moab

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    Hey Thanks for those useful tips!

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    coming up in 3 weeks, pretty sure Burro pass looks like the peaks here, but how is hazzard coming? passable? hope to go from Hazzard down thru LPS May 8.

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    Has anyone filled up a camper or rv with water in town before heading out to a dry BLM campground? If so, where?

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    drinking

    I've read all three pages of this thread and I'm surprised no one has mentioned Utah's alcohol rules (maybe I missed it). If you are in Utah for your first time and try to order a beer in a bar, you may end up very confused.

    There are no 'bars' in Utah. They are all 'private clubs'. Of course, anyone can purchase a membership, allowing you to drink there. Prices vary, but they're usually no more than $5. Once you buy it, the bartender hands you a receipt, which is usually good for a week.

    Also, if you are staying for dinner, the server may deduct the membership fee from your total bill. I'm not sure if all restaurants do this, but most of the ones I have been to, do.

    If you hop to another establishment, you have to start the process over again.

    Hope this helps. Moab has some great microbrews. I'd hate for you to miss out on them because your intimidated by this policy.

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    Utah got rid of "private clubs" about 12 months ago. Some other changes as well but don't need to get into them here. You will not notice anything different if you went into a brewpub in Utah or Colorado or California.

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    Just back from another great Moab trip...I highly recommend the very clean and hospitable Hampton Inn, and love the Moab Brewery, Slickrock Cafe and Zaks. As for adventure: we hiked to False Kiva in Canyonlands, near Mesa Arch (secret- need to ask locals) and rode Circle O loop, Klondike and Slickrock...loved it all but was terrified from some of the ups and downs of Slickrock (int. rider). Also hiked\scrambled in the Fiery Furnace in Arches...very cool area - need a permit to enter. Moab is really special.

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    Any good DH shuttles? We'll be stopping overnight, on our trip from Phx, to Breck/Keystone/WP. I was thinking my SO could shuttle me for some early am gnar, before continuing our annual pilgrimmage to the elevation.
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    Moab Trip last week of Sept 2010

    I'm going to be in Moab with the fam 8/29-9/4 and I'm looking for a riding cohort. Did the whole Enchilada last year but will most likely do the ride from Hazzard county vs. Burrough Pass. Any other rides would be fine too. wifey rides but too tamely... not that there's anything wrong with that of course!... we'll probably do the Circle O with the kids; i've already done Bartletts, Amasa back, Poison spider, Soverign, Blue Buffalo, Slick rock and Whole Enchilada which covers Burrough Pass, Hazard, Kokopelli, UPS, LPS and Porc Rim. If anyone's interested please email me at tibikeguy@gmail.com

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    Slickrock in early/mid Sept

    I'm going to be in Green River on a business trip and have a Sunday to burn (9/12). Thinking of heading down to do the Slickrock trail in the AM, and depending on how I feel (and the weather), another loop in the afternoon.

    I have a 2 liter hydration pack and a large CamelBak insulated water bottle - is that enough to get me through a loop this time of year? High temp on Sunday looks like 85F, but obviously I hope to get an early start...I run 25-30 miles/week so I'm reasonably fit.

    I ride exclusively singlespeed back in Michigan (usually pulling a kid in a trailer) so riding a geared full-boinger will be a luxury.

    I plan on renting a bike from Poison Spider or Moab Cyclery. Perhaps the latter as they rent SPD shoes too - which I'll need since I didn't bring mine.

    Pretty sure none of my co-workers are up for this ride, so I'll be going solo. From what I can gather here there will be plenty of others out on the trail with me....right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatchanceti
    I'm going to be in Green River on a business trip and have a Sunday to burn (9/12). Thinking of heading down to do the Slickrock trail in the AM, and depending on how I feel (and the weather), another loop in the afternoon.

    I have a 2 liter hydration pack and a large CamelBak insulated water bottle - is that enough to get me through a loop this time of year? High temp on Sunday looks like 85F, but obviously I hope to get an early start...I run 25-30 miles/week so I'm reasonably fit.

    I ride exclusively singlespeed back in Michigan (usually pulling a kid in a trailer) so riding a geared full-boinger will be a luxury.

    I plan on renting a bike from Poison Spider or Moab Cyclery. Perhaps the latter as they rent SPD shoes too - which I'll need since I didn't bring mine.

    Pretty sure none of my co-workers are up for this ride, so I'll be going solo. From what I can gather here there will be plenty of others out on the trail with me....right?
    I live in Florida and rode the Slickrock loop last July with no problems, although I started about 7:00 AM. 2L Camelbak is plenty if you're in shape. l I rented a bike from Poison Spider and they took good care of me. Have a great ride. Coming from somebody who rarely sees a desert landscape like that, it's just awesome.

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    ok, so would it be totally crazy to try and run/hike the Slickrock trail? I don't want to be "in the way" of the cyclists or is there enough room for everyone out there?

    If I start at 7AM I should have 3-4 hours of sub 80 temps (9/12).

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    Sharing Slickrock

    There will be plenty of room to run the Slickrock trail and not have issues with other users. Anyone you see will probably be happy to take a break and tell you how crazy you are. You probably won't see many other users if you start at 7:00AM on Sunday though.

    If you want to run in Moab, there are many more options than the popular mtn bike routes. But if you haven't been here before, Slickrock will be a really unique landscape and is definitely worth seeing. Hopefully some of your regular running mileage is on pavement!

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    Run/hike went well (impossible to "run" on all of that) this morning. I started at 8pm, the sun came out quick and was intense, even without the heat.

    I didn't run the practice loop, but as far as I know did the whole rest of the loop, even though my Garmin says it was 9.35 miles. I wonder if it missed some of the up and down elevation change? Anyway, it took me 2.5 hours to cover that distance on foot. I only stopped to take a few quick pics and to shove down a fig newton or dig my Gatorade out of the hydration pack.

    stopped at the "loop head" on my way back to dump the sand out of my shoes:

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/4984125244/" title="photo 12 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4089/4984125244_40a7a0ac3c.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="photo 12" /></a>

    Didn't see anyone else for the first hour or so, then saw quite a few cyclists on my way back in. Most looking at me like I was crazy. I'll definitely try it on bike next time.

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    Would this weekend be bad timing?

    Hi everyone, I'm planning to head out to Moab to ride/hike with my girlfriend (her idea!!! ), but I just realized that 24 Hours of Moab happens to be this weekend. Should I expect all the campgrounds and trails to be packed to the max, or should it still be ok? We'd be riding low-key stuff like Bar-M and Dead Horse Point as she's a beginner, and getting into town late Fri night.

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    The Jailhouse was expensive and disappointing!

    Quote Originally Posted by dieselcruiserhead
    , the best breakfast is actually the Jailhouse Cafe .
    My wife and I tried the Jailhouse on our last trip to Moab and I can not recommended it. The coffee was very good but our food was mediocre at best and very expensive. A real disappointment!

    Cheers!

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    I'm planning a 12 day trip in the area late winter/early spring (March/April) and would like to spend my time about 50/50 between biking and sight seeing.

    • When's the best time to go within those two months, weather/crowd wise?
    • What sights can I take in without adding long detours/lots of driving?
    • Given a biking/sight seeing itinerary, what airport should I fly into? SLC appears to be the closest international airport, but if I fly into Vegas, I might be able to fit in visits to a few national parks on my way to/from Moab. If I fly into Denver, I see Fruita is on the way. Decisions, decisions....


    Thanks in advance for any help anyone is able to provide.

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    Awesome thread, and I am still reading, so if any of these comments/questions have been answered forgive me.

    I have wanted to go to Moab with some Jeep groups for a while now and loosely thinking about a trip in the early fall of 2011. I'd like to drive up from Austin and maybe spend a few days on the bike and a day or two with my Jeep. These are the things I am thinking about as I look into this a bit deeper. Any advice or concerns I am not thinking about would be appreciated.

    1) Trails - Are the trails well marked or is it recommended to sign up for one of the paid guided bike tours? Since I am very new to MTB, I think I would prefer to ride the trails without a guide or with a group because I have no qualms about walking a section that I'm unsure about. Also, I wouldn't want to hold up a group if I wanted to stop and take pics or rest.

    2) Skill level - Again, being a newbie, my skills are questionable at this point. However that said, I think I would want more than just flat single track. I'd like to encounter some obstacles and choose what I want to try and what I want to walk around. I think I could probably handle some intermediate trails.

    3) Bike - We are riding Hardtails. While I completely understand the desire for a FS, I don't know if I will have one by then. I'm not sure I would want to rent a FS bike either. I am used to my bike.

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    Didn't know whether to just start a new thread about this or just post it here, so let's try here first:

    Going to be riding Moab/Fruita in early May 2011. Thinking ahead, what type of tires are best for the environment? Seems almost like DJ/urban tires would work best for Slickrock, but on Porcupine / Poison Spider etc, something knobbier would be better.

    What are you guys using? I am currently running 2.1 Nevegals, but I will need new tires soon...

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    It's been raining here in Socal for 6 days.
    Plan on driving near Moab and may considering riding with the wife.

    What's the weather and importanly, riding conditions like for next week, after Xmas?

    I have only done porcupine and I know that's shot this time of the year. I think I've been to Slickrock but nowhere else.

    Any trail/loop suggestion for me and my wife (she's in decent shape, good descender but hates long grueling grinder of climbs)?

    Any must do hiking destination for a half-day trip?

    Thanks. Great info in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzer
    It's been raining here in Socal for 6 days.

    What's the weather and importanly, riding conditions like for next week, after Xmas?


    Any trail/loop suggestion for me and my wife (she's in decent shape, good descender but hates long grueling grinder of climbs)? Any must do hiking destination for a half-day trip?

    Thanks. Great info in this thread.

    It's been a tad rainy, but the trails were dry (and deserted) as of 2 days ago.
    There are a parcel of new trails here that are not in the guide books yet, but merit investigation.
    Bike shops can fill ya in. Ask about Pipedream.
    Forecast seems to be more of the same, partly sunny, highs around 50...perfect riding weather in the desert.
    There's snow in the mtns of course, which leaves you with 99 % of the trails still rideable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazafakka
    Didn't know whether to just start a new thread about this or just post it here, so let's try here first:

    Going to be riding Moab/Fruita in early May 2011. Thinking ahead, what type of tires are best for the environment? Seems almost like DJ/urban tires would work best for Slickrock, but on Porcupine / Poison Spider etc, something knobbier would be better.

    What are you guys using? I am currently running 2.1 Nevegals, but I will need new tires soon...

    I ride 2.35 nevegals here. Got no complaints, seem to handle sand, dirt, rock as well
    as anything I've tried. I think I first tried them because so many other folks around town were satisfied with em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moabman
    It's been a tad rainy, but the trails were dry (and deserted) as of 2 days ago.
    There are a parcel of new trails here that are not in the guide books yet, but merit investigation.
    Bike shops can fill ya in. Ask about Pipedream.
    Forecast seems to be more of the same, partly sunny, highs around 50...perfect riding weather in the desert.
    There's snow in the mtns of course, which leaves you with 99 % of the trails still rideable.
    Thanks!!!
    Looks like we're in for it.

    So Pipedream is a good ride with a SO? I'm not looking for gnar gnar, just chill enjoy the Moab experience kinda ride but nothing too "touristy" trail. We don't mind doing a 16-20mile loop either.

    A few more ?s:

    1. Generally speaking, how long of a drive is Moab from the Vegas/St. George area?

    2. Which bikeshop to go to to get good info on trails, etc? Or are all ok?

    3. We're probably gonna be in a tight budget but still would like to have a good place to stay, near the action but far and cheap is ok too. Which one is better to stay at. Red Stone, Silver Sage or Rustic Inn?

    Thanks again. Pretty stoked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzer

    So Pipedream is a good ride with a SO? I'm not looking for gnar gnar, just chill enjoy the Moab experience kinda ride but nothing too "touristy" trail. We don't mind doing a 16-20mile loop either.

    A few more ?s:

    1. Generally speaking, how long of a drive is Moab from the Vegas/St. George area?

    2. Which bikeshop to go to to get good info on trails, etc? Or are all ok?

    3. We're probably gonna be in a tight budget but still would like to have a good place to stay, near the action but far and cheap is ok too. Which one is better to stay at. Red Stone, Silver Sage or Rustic Inn?

    Thanks again. Pretty stoked.

    These are some "ymmv" questions, but I'll give ya my 2 cents.
    I do moab to Vegas in 7 hours. That's being in no particular hurry.

    I couldn't recommend one bike shop over another, I really like all of those guys.
    Mostly depends on if the person you collar is in a talkative mood, doesn't it?
    This time of year they'll have time on their hands....give em some business if you can, it will appreciated.

    Cant help you much with lodging, cause I live here. Usually I have trouble remembering which hotel is which, even though i drive by them everyday. Maybe somebody from out of town will chime in. I'd get one with a hot tub! AArchway has one. lots of other places too.

    Had to chuckle at " near the action". You know it's off season, right? Gotta make your own action...

    I guess I would call Pipedream a tad gnarly. Not much vertical, but it's not a beginner ride. I wouldnt take my SO on it, it would be intense for her.

    I mentioned it cause it's brand new and not on the radar yet. Here 's my advice for
    rider and so.

    first stop, Intrepid trail at Dead Horse st park. Drop dead gorgeous and fun but rideable singletrack for everyone. Not sure about the snow situation , but should be ok Be sure to take the camera.
    If you ride it and want more challenge, go to the bar m trail and park take the bar m
    2 track to lazy, then the two track to bar b(counter clockwise) to rockin a to circle o, and then the 2 track bar m to the cliff trail and around to the parking lot. The most technical section is the bar b, and can just be left out if needed. These directions will make sense when you look at the map at the trailhead.( Lazy is a new trail and a bike shop may or may not have a map with it included.). These are all concentric loops, it's not tricky to find your way around.



    If you and so want more challenge than that, then I'd say try the venerable Sovereign trail starting at the willow springs road and heading north. It's well marked.
    Or the pipedream.
    I've been riding both, and they are dry and riotous.
    Slickrock is also dry.

    There is now a paved bike trail running up Moab canyon, it's a nice ride.

    For a cruiser workout, I frequently do that, or I park at the slickrock parking lot and ride up sand flats road to porcupine rim parking lot(and beyond). It's about an hour ride, steady up hill but not too steep, and it's gorqeous and totally deserted this time of year.
    Makes a nice drive too.

    I'll be around so dont hesitate to ask your questions.

    HTH
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    I'm so in love with the trails here.

    Zax's appetizers are one of the best I've had. Entree's are hit or miss.
    Rustic Inn is damn good place to stay.

    Final trip question:
    Snow storm is forecasted for tomorrow through i-70 mtn pass.
    Do snowstorms close the pass on I-70 (like Richfield) to i-15?
    If so, are there other drivable alternatives back to Vegas other than 70 during a snowstorm??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzer
    I'm so in love with the trails here.

    Zax's appetizers are one of the best I've had. Entree's are hit or miss.
    Rustic Inn is damn good place to stay.

    Final trip question:
    Snow storm is forecasted for tomorrow through i-70 mtn pass.
    Do snowstorms close the pass on I-70 (like Richfield) to i-15?
    If so, are there other drivable alternatives back to Vegas other than 70 during a snowstorm??
    That pass can get nasty, but that doesnt mean it will this time. If you have all wheel drive and snow tires, it will likely be just another drive in snowy conditions. If you don;t, I'd monitor
    road conditions carefully as the storm progresses.

    You can detour south from moab and turn west at Flagstaff. It's a long detour,
    but if you're not in a hurry the drive through monument valley and the rez
    are interesting. Of course if the storm is coming that way, it can be a mess around flagstaff, also(been there, done that).

    If you get stuck here, PM me, we'll treat you to a latte!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzer
    I'm so in love with the trails here.

    Zax's appetizers are one of the best I've had. Entree's are hit or miss.
    Rustic Inn is damn good place to stay.

    Final trip question:
    Snow storm is forecasted for tomorrow through i-70 mtn pass.
    Do snowstorms close the pass on I-70 (like Richfield) to i-15?
    If so, are there other drivable alternatives back to Vegas other than 70 during a snowstorm??
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    Quote Originally Posted by moabman
    If you get stuck here, PM me, we'll treat you to a latte!
    Thanks.

    It did get ugly fast and we're lucky to just get out on time. Rode Bootleg Canyon the rest of the break. Awesome trip.!!

    I think I'm more in love with Moab now than I was during my initial trip. I think last time, we were just in a rush to get as much gnar riding as we can and sorta missed the draw of the whole place. This time, we took our sweet ass time riding (kinda have to with the wife) and explored the area and town. I think it's adviseable to sorta "throttle down" sometimes and enjoy the place at a different pace.

    We will be back...during off season again. I like cheap rooms.

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    Looking for a dry dog Trail for MLK weekend.

    I'm looking for a trail to take my dog out riding with for his first time.

    Ideal would be the following:

    1) Dry, not snow covered or muddy.
    (Do I need to look toward Arizona or is there something dry within CO?) We have a lot of bare ground in Western Eagle County, Colorado and the snow sitting around is thin. This makes me think that something out there is free of snow.

    2) Boring. A wide open double track that goes on for 5-10 miles would work pretty well. An improved dirt road would work too. I want to go along pretty quick so the pup's focus (2yrs old) is on keeping up rather than interacting with the bike/rider.

    3) No vehicle traffic and not parallel to paved road.
    If it's a low use dirt road with good visibility then that would be fine. I want plenty of time to park my dog off the road and let vehicles pass.

    Any known trails/roads that fit in here?

    Thanks for playing.
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    This is the thread that keeps on giving. 2011 is my year to make it out to the mecca, and there is tons of good information here! thanks guys
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    Shuttles

    Anyone know a round-a-bout price for a shuttle from Grand Junction to Moab? I am thinking about not renting a car, and just biking it everywhere while i am there.
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    booked into the kokopelli for a week in April. I can't wait, been dreaming of going to Moab for 10+years....

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    Moab is awesome. I've only ridden there twice. After the first visit, it inspired me to become a geologist. The second time, I actually understood some of the geology. Can't wait until my boys are old enough to ride out there with me.

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    So I am planning a trip from feb 19-21st... short but sweet. I am from the midwest and will be with 3 friends with varying abilities all of us limited to small drops(2-3ft). What suggestions do you guys have for this time of year?

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    Recommendation for wife and I?

    Great posts in here.
    Can I get an expert opinion...I have hit moab before and ride "all mountain." I did Porcupine and Slick Rock in the past. My wife has also rode there before and rides duel suspension more XC. We are going to be there the first week of April for the first time together. We plan on doing some white water rafting on one day, then I will hit Soverign Trail by myself on another. Together we're looking to do a 3-4 hour loop or out and back (not slickrock) that is light to moderate.
    I was thinking Monitor and Merrimac Trail and taking a look at the dino tracks? Can you ride to them or only hike to them? Thoughts on trail selection? I wouldn't mind staying on the north end because after the ride, we may go into Arches for a few hours.

    Thanks all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kawsakimx6
    Anyone know a round-a-bout price for a shuttle from Grand Junction to Moab? I am thinking about not renting a car, and just biking it everywhere while i am there.

    Shuttle services seem to come and go here
    I usually call the MIC(moab info center), when I need an update on that kind of info. They seem to have the latest scoop. http://www.cnha.org/mic.cfm

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddywings
    Great posts in here.
    Can I get an expert opinion...I have hit moab before and ride "all mountain." I did Porcupine and Slick Rock in the past. My wife has also rode there before and rides duel suspension more XC. We are going to be there the first week of April for the first time together. We plan on doing some white water rafting on one day, then I will hit Soverign Trail by myself on another. Together we're looking to do a 3-4 hour loop or out and back (not slickrock) that is light to moderate.
    I was thinking Monitor and Merrimac Trail and taking a look at the dino tracks? Can you ride to them or only hike to them? Thoughts on trail selection? I wouldn't mind staying on the north end because after the ride, we may go into Arches for a few hours.

    Thanks all!
    Gemini Bridges is a moderate ride that anyone can enjoy as a shuttle or as an out-and-back. Klondike Bluffs and Baby Steps form a nice loop. There are some challenging bits on BS but nothing high or exposed, just tricky little ledges. You could also ride the MOAB trail system, the trails out there are friendly and easy to loop together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshuagore
    So I am planning a trip from feb 19-21st... short but sweet. I am from the midwest and will be with 3 friends with varying abilities all of us limited to small drops(2-3ft). What suggestions do you guys have for this time of year? Josh
    You guys will enjoy Amasa Back and Slickrock, both will almost certainly be clear. Sovereign should be quite good as well. Poison Spider to Portal might be a good ride, but tends to be sandy on PS and gnarly on Portal. If you guys ride the other three with no trouble, check it out!

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    All right, I have a lot of questions. I'll number them so you guys can answer them more easily.


    I want to take my brothers to Moab in the end of May for 3 days. Is 3 days long enough (1) and is end of May it a good time (2)?


    I got the flight from Canada to Vegas covered and I plan to rent an SUV to take us to Moab. Do car rentals have optional bike racks (3)?


    I found the hotel in Moab, but I really don't know where to start. And I want to drive from town to trails...is there parking available or should we ride from town (4)?


    It's important to mention that I'm a road biker and that my brothers are advanced mountain bikers. Of course, I can ride a beginner's trail, but I'd like to know if there is an epic trail that can be ridden by all range of skills (5).


    I'd like to plan our 3 days as followed:


    1st - one long easy trail for scenery
    2nd - one average trail that they can play in and that I can survive in
    3rd - on the last day, we go seperate ways. I return my mountain bike for a road bike. I drop them off (or they drop me off, depending on what's best) to an expert trail and I go for a road ride.


    Does this make any sense? Which trails/road would be the best(6)?


    Some more questions...


    Can bike shops rent ALL type of equipment (7)? I like to travel with only a carry on.
    Once you got your trails figured out, is it easy to find your way in Moab or should one prepare a lot(8)? Do you need a guide (9)? Is May too hot for an average Canuck or should I wait for the end of fall(10)? My brothers usually prefer to ride in the fall in canada and I commute by bike with light clothes at 20F so maybe we won't be acustomed to that kind of heat. EDIT: Do you get cellphone reception anywhere in and around Moab? (11) If we go on seperate ways, I like the idea of having some way to contact each others (or proper help) in case of an emergency.


    I really want to do that trip. And since it's a surprise I want to make to them (I'll pay all expenses), I don't want to ruin it by being such a noob and because of poor planning. I could ask them to find whatever trail they want to ride since they know a lot more about this than I do but I'm the most comfortable in english (ESL) and I've travelled more than them so planning will probably fall on my shoulders. Any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you in advance.

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    All right, I have a lot of questions. I'll number them so you guys can answer them more easily.
    I'll try to help with a few questions. Most of these answers will fit with the original topic of this post. The ride questions are pretty tough to give specific answers to. Maybe you should start another thread specifically dealing with rides. My honest opinion is that you should not worry too much about figuring out the rides ahead of time. Especially if it's a surprise to your advanced ability brothers.

    All right, here goes:

    1. 3 days seems short, especially with all the traveling time just to get to Moab. Are you coming from Quebec?

    2. The end of May is a good time. Yes, it may be hot. You can ride earlier if it's exceptionally hot. On the positive side, some trails at higher elevations should be open.

    3. It sounds like you're renting bikes in Moab. Bike shops in Moab do have bike racks available. It will be up to you to make sure the rental vehicle can fit them. Receiver hitch? Ability to fit a trunk rack?

    4. Most popular trails in Moab have parking available at trailheads. Shuttle companies are popular for many one-way routes.

    7. Mountain bikes, road bikes, racks, helmets, pedals - yes. You should bring your own shoes, pedals (since you're bringing your shoes anyway), and hydration pack at least.

    8. It's easy to find your way around in Moab.

    9. You don't 'need' a guide. Guided rides are much more rewarding than you'll often hear in this forum though. It sounds to me like you might benefit from a guided ride to get your Moab bearings.

    11. Tough to say what cell reception you'll get. A road ride in Arches would keep you feeling closer to 'civilization' perhaps.

    Have fun with your trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frejwilk
    1. 3 days seems short, especially with all the traveling time just to get to Moab. Are you coming from Quebec?
    What would you suggest? Is 4 days enough? Or should one go for a week? I'm a freelancer, so any day I miss at work makes my trip double expensive. I'm already trying to fit this into a long weekend.

    Yes, I'm coming from Quebec.

    3. It sounds like you're renting bikes in Moab. Bike shops in Moab do have bike racks available. It will be up to you to make sure the rental vehicle can fit them. Receiver hitch? Ability to fit a trunk rack?
    Yeah, well, obviously I should rent my bike rack in Moab...not Vegas. Thanks for that obvious tip...lol

    Btw, is the drive from Vegas as long as Google.Maps put it? 7 hours is kinda of a long drive. Do you know if the road is worth it? Or shoudl I land in Salt Lake City instead? (more $$$ though).

    4. Most popular trails in Moab have parking available at trailheads. Shuttle companies are popular for many one-way routes.
    K thanks. I assumed it was. Anytime I go to the US, I'm amazed how easy it is to go around. I was so nervous before going to Hawaii but it was ridiculously simple to get around once over there (compared to say...Europe)

    9. You don't 'need' a guide. Guided rides are much more rewarding than you'll often hear in this forum though. It sounds to me like you might benefit from a guided ride to get your Moab bearings.
    Yeah, I like guides too because they usually talk a lot and provide a lot of random info. Feels like reading Wiki. But my brothers are not exactly the listener types, plus, I don't assume they come for cheap.

    11. Tough to say what cell reception you'll get. A road ride in Arches would keep you feeling closer to 'civilization' perhaps.
    I don't really care about civilization. As long as no one is never alone. Though thinking of it, I'll be the only one on my own and I'll be on the road so no worries.

    Which brings me to another question...is slick rock hazardous? Like can you get injured easily? My only fear of this entire trip is that my brothers are kinda reckless when they get excited and it would really suck to have our trip ruined because of an injury. I plan to tell them that the only condition is that they don't act crazy, but accidents still happen. Are they frequent for peole who has never rode slick rock?

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    What would you suggest? ....
    Most of these questions are too personal for easy answers. Pretty much you're looking at how dollars vs days compare for you. You'll save 3hrs driving each way by flying into Salt Lake City. Flying time - who knows? Or dollars? And maybe the flying negates the driving anyway.

    It's hard for me to imagine you're going to fly out of Montreal, Burlington, or anywhere else close by, and get to Moab very easily in a day no matter what you plan. Two (full) days travel vs three days riding seems like a tight ratio to me.

    With regard to injuries on Slickrock (or any other trail). Some people hurt themselves, but the percentages are astronomically against you being seriously injured there. You're probably in more danger driving into town on the highway. Of course, you know your own brothers better than random folks on the internet...

    It seems like you need to focus more on what you can afford as far as time away from work, flights, vehicle rentals, and accommodations are concerned. I think the rest of your planning will be a lot easier to figure out once you actually arrive in Moab.

    As I posted before, you might get more answers to some of your specific questions in new threads rather than this one.

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    Like I said, I already picked my flight, vehicle and even hotel. The rest is details about biking. I wouldn't want to go in the middle of nowhere, not knowing what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RawKeyBaldBoa
    Like I said, I already picked my flight, vehicle and even hotel. The rest is details about biking. I wouldn't want to go in the middle of nowhere, not knowing what to do.
    RK:

    I am a mountain biker who is coming to Canada in July to ride with my three roadie brothers. I want to do several 80 plus mile days and was looking for some rides that you would suggest we try. My normal ride is 12 miles and I climb about 1,500 feet.

    What kind ao a car do you suggest I rent for the bikes and do they come with racks?

    I also freelance and my budget is pretty tight these days. How many days will it take me to work up to the 80 mile distance so I won't hold my brother up on the rides. They normally ride over a 100 milles, and I am looking for rides that we all can do and really enjoy?

    Should I rent a bike with a triple or double and can I ride with my normal flat pedals or do I need to buy new shoes and pedals just for this trip? Do bike shops in Canada rent road shoes and what pedals do you recommend?

    Thanks in advance,

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    I am a mountain biker who is coming to Canada in July to ride with my three roadie brothers. I want to do several 80 plus mile days and was looking for some rides that you would suggest we try. My normal ride is 12 miles and I climb about 1,500 feet.

    What kind ao a car do you suggest I rent for the bikes and do they come with racks?

    I also freelance and my budget is pretty tight these days. How many days will it take me to work up to the 80 mile distance so I won't hold my brother up on the rides. They normally ride over a 100 milles, and I am looking for rides that we all can do and really enjoy?

    Should I rent a bike with a triple or double and can I ride with my normal flat pedals or do I need to buy new shoes and pedals just for this trip? Do bike shops in Canada rent road shoes and what pedals do you recommend?

    Thanks in advance,

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    Hi traildoc,

    I'm sure you know that Canada is pretty large. You should narrow down what area you would want to visit. As I mentionned, I'm a noob in moutain biking so I don't know much about this. Besides, you'd have better luck asking these questions in the Canada forums.

    Good luck.

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    Hi traildoc,

    I'm sure you know that Canada is pretty large. You should narrow down what area you would want to visit. As I mentionned, I'm a noob in moutain biking so I don't know much about this. Besides, you'd have better luck asking these questions in the Canada forums.

    Good luck.
    You mentioned that your brothers are good mountain bikers and you are a roadie. That means either your brothers are going to have to go on a beginner ride with you or you are going to have to walk a lot of the trails they might want to ride. There is no way a beginner mountain biker is going to be able to hang with good mountain bikers in Moab unless they are willing to go on a beginner trail because you are paying for the trip.

    What kind of shoes and pedals are you planning to ride with? What king of leg and arm protection are you going to wear? What kind of bike shorts are you planning to ride with? What kind of gloves do you plan on wearing? At least look like a mountain biker, so if you crash you will be able to get up and continue to ride. If you don't wear arm protection you might consider a long sleeved poly shirt to give you some arm and sun protection.

    If you ride down Hazard watch your speed and be careful of the rut. I have seen many beginner riders eat it about 200 yards into the ride.

    Please give a report how your trip went.

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    It looks like a bunch of us North Vancouverites will be landing in Moab right after Jeep week, around the 25th of April. We usually camp out in the Slickrock area, do you think it will be tough finding a camping spot?

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    Hi all! I am like everyone else on this forum...planing a trip to Moab for some mountain biking. I am coming from Boulder, CO which is only a 6 hour hop in a car, so me, my wife, and some friends are heading out to ride for a few days. I have been reading through these forums and I have some good ideas about which trails I may want to try, but I was hoping that some of you might be able to give me some input about camping and more trails. (NOTE: Skill levels range from beginner to expert)

    We do NOT want to stay in a hotel or too close to town, we would like to be a little further away from town and civilization What I am looking for (and hoping exists out there) is a place I can toss up some tents (for free), and hit a different trail that is relatively close to camp without having to drive. I am thinking we are going to have 3 full days of biking and maybe some hiking.

    So the million dollar question, does such a place exists in Moab? Or might it be better to head to canyonlands? I am a noob on the Moab/Utah biking scene, as I have never been there, so I am looking for some people to help mold my knowledge of the place and give me some great ideas.

    We are looking to head out the in mid-late May. Hope to hear some great ideas from ya guys!

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbitzer
    Hi all! I am like everyone else on this forum...planing a trip to Moab for some mountain biking. I am coming from Boulder, CO which is only a 6 hour hop in a car, so me, my wife, and some friends are heading out to ride for a few days. I have been reading through these forums and I have some good ideas about which trails I may want to try, but I was hoping that some of you might be able to give me some input about camping and more trails. (NOTE: Skill levels range from beginner to expert)

    We do NOT want to stay in a hotel or too close to town, we would like to be a little further away from town and civilization What I am looking for (and hoping exists out there) is a place I can toss up some tents (for free), and hit a different trail that is relatively close to camp without having to drive. I am thinking we are going to have 3 full days of biking and maybe some hiking.

    So the million dollar question, does such a place exists in Moab? Or might it be better to head to canyonlands? I am a noob on the Moab/Utah biking scene, as I have never been there, so I am looking for some people to help mold my knowledge of the place and give me some great ideas.

    We are looking to head out the in mid-late May. Hope to hear some great ideas from ya guys!

    Thanks!
    ~Nick
    Sand Flats is pretty nice and offers easy access to several classics, but it is not free to camp there and if it's a busy weekend it can be difficult to find a spot. Same goes with spots on Kane Creek road. Remote free camping can be had further from town but it's not likely to be close to more than one trailhead. My advice for SF and KC areas? If you are coming in April or May, plan to show up mid-week and grab whatever you can. Next morning when people are packing up, go nab something sweet.

    It's kind of like trying to get the line on the elusive free condo in Whistler next to the Garbo lift. It might happen once in a while but it's darned unlikely.

    I certainly roll snake eyes every once in a while... I have ended up squeezing into the ghetto overflow dirt lot at Sand Flats after checking all my favorite spots in a 10 mile radius of town and finding them occupied.

    Oh, and off topic but not really:

    NEW TRAIL right in Moab. PIPE DREAM runs from the Hidden Valley Trailhead back into town. It's techy but not over-the-top and is a great way to sample the local goods without a long drive. It's new this spring so there are still a very small number few soft spots and sandy turns. It's 100% rideable as an out-and-back from town, but it flows noticeably better when ridden South to North. Credit the folks at Trail Mix for finally putting a trail in Moab that dumps you out right next to beer!

    http://www.moabtimes.com/view/full_s...nds-Day-events

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbitzer
    Hi all! I am like everyone else on this forum...planing a trip to Moab for some mountain biking. I am coming from Boulder, CO which is only a 6 hour hop in a car, so me, my wife, and some friends are heading out to ride for a few days. I have been reading through these forums and I have some good ideas about which trails I may want to try, but I was hoping that some of you might be able to give me some input about camping and more trails. (NOTE: Skill levels range from beginner to expert)

    We do NOT want to stay in a hotel or too close to town, we would like to be a little further away from town and civilization What I am looking for (and hoping exists out there) is a place I can toss up some tents (for free), and hit a different trail that is relatively close to camp without having to drive. I am thinking we are going to have 3 full days of biking and maybe some hiking.

    So the million dollar question, does such a place exists in Moab? Or might it be better to head to canyonlands? I am a noob on the Moab/Utah biking scene, as I have never been there, so I am looking for some people to help mold my knowledge of the place and give me some great ideas.

    We are looking to head out the in mid-late May. Hope to hear some great ideas from ya guys!

    Thanks!
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    There's camping along the willow springs road, near a sovereign trailhead, along dalton wells road, near another sovereign trailhead, camping on the road to Klondike, and camping on the road to monitor and merrimac and bartlett wash, just off the top of my head. On a busy weekend you'd want to go farther back these roads to avoid much
    Winnabegos and travel trailers with attendent atv's and motos, but with a little patience some privacy could be found even on the busiest weekend.
    My favorite hidden spot for potential camping would be a little loop of the copper ridge road, just south east of Klondike Trail head. This little loop goes right up against the park,
    (arches), and I believe the camp spots are legal. It would require high clearance to get started, and 4 wheel to get back to the hinter part of it. This little loop is also a fine mtn bike ride, although short, and virtually unknown. It is probably in 4 wheel guidebooks.

    I see camping spots on Garden Mesa, dont know if they're legal, and even inside the bar m loop on the northern mesa, which must be legal, cause they're damn visable.

    Of all of these, I might start with willow springs road, if I were new, there will be spots, and if you are diligent you can find some dang fine ones, on side spurs behind rock outcroppings.

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    Memorial Weekend Trip

    I just got back from a few days in Moab and wanted to post my experience for anyone needing some reference.

    Bike- Ran my '09 Titus El Guapo, but we also had a '07 Enduro and '08 Stumpy FSR Pro and a 2010 Ibis Mojo SL. Our tires ranged from Tioga Psycho Genius 2.1/2.3 combo to a Maxxis Highroller and HolyRoller combo. All tires hooked p well in the loose over hardpack and slickrock. The wider tires performed better in the sand sections and the 2.1 WTB Motoraptor was the best of the narrow tires.

    Trails- We ran the shuttle (Moab Bike Shop) up in the morning to do Kokopelli to UPS to LPS to Porcupine Rim. This was an awesome run with a little of everything in terms of terrain. No flats among the 4 of us, but a couple minor mechanicals (broken chain, loose bolts, bent levers and bruises) and helped someone else with a spare tube. My 100oz. hydration pack was sufficient water in the 92 deg heat. I usually consume a lot of water and I still had plenty left after the ride into town. 25 miles total.

    In the afternoon we ran a loop out at Bar-M and paid the $5 parking fee. This was a nice cool down in the evening kept the muscles loose. We strung together a couple of loops out there to make about a dozen miles. It was ok, but still some nice single track out there and some nice views way off in the distance.

    Morning in Moab had severe wind warning in excess of 45mph. Out at Slick Rock it was closer to 50-60mph gusts through the saddles between the hills. It made a challenging trail even more so. This was a great trail and due to the wind and heat we did not see a ton of people or vehicles on the trails. All tires and even slicks hooked up well on the rock.

    Bike Shops- We had great luck at the following. All had competitive retails (with some items a little higher) and lots of logo'd apparel and accessories if you want souvenirs. All did everything they could to repair crash damage and supply parts to get us out on the trails ASAP.

    Moab Bike Shop - Bought some gear and supplies as well as booked out shuttle run in the morning. Thanks to Meric (sp?) for hooking us up!

    Poison Spider on - Helped with some mechanicals and were reasonably priced and good service. Sent us to a competitor after tracking down some parts they did not have in stock.

    Rim Cyclery- Great service and a good selection of bikes and parts. Really helped us out on some repairs to get us out on the next ride quickly.

    These LBS rock to save your vacations. We can't thank them enough. You always bring parts and supplies, but it never fails that something is damaged enough to require a pro or need additional parts.

    Food- We ate at the following and had good and adequate experience.

    Blue Pig ? (BBQ)- Located next to La Quinta. Pretty good and authentic southern bbq. I've had better, but it was good and filling. Price was about $25 + tip for a dinner and a couple of beers. Service was great.

    Moab Diner (diner fare)- Good food and reasonably prices. Service was great. Cost was about $10 for dinner and a soda (what no beer).

    Pasta Jay's (Italian) - Good food and reasonable prices. Service was good. Cost was about $15 for a meal.

    Fiesta Mexicana (Mexican)- Food was adequate and a little overpriced. Service was good, but I wouldn't waste your money. Lunch was about $20 + tip with a $5 beer.

    Hogi Yogi/Teriyaki Stix (sandwiches and Asian) - Food was ok. Service was ok. Typical fast food Asian food and sandwiches.

    Lodging - La Quinta was a good place to crash. Price was reasonable for 2 beds and the rooms were clean and quite. $150/ night for 2 double beds. Rooms were big enough to bring all the gear and bikes up. They never batted an eye at the bikes coming through the lobby. The staff was very courteous and the breakfast was pretty extensive compared to the continental's I have had at competing brands.

    Hope this helps anyone planning a trip. I know this thread was very valuable to me in planning my trip.

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    Hi all!

    I am planning a trip to Moab in a couple wks and am wondering what is a good tire for the trails? I currently run ExiWolfs on my Pivot 429.

    Would my Exi's be a good choice, or should I consider something else?

    Assistance greatly appreciated!

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    tires

    Some of us use Nevegals. I run 2.35. They are as good as or better than anything else I have tried over the years.
    I just mounted a Cedric Garcia 2.1 on the rear wheel, just to check it out( and rode the Magnificent 7), and it's ok,
    but the Nevegal has a little more bite climbing up ledges out of the loose stuff.

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    meh... moab has such a wide variety of terrain I'm not sure it matters too much. I've been using a maxxis high roller in the back for years, and my front switches between maxxis minion dhf, intense dh and intense 909, depending on what jenson has for sale. treats me nice and works well in Colorado where I do most of my riding.

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    Howdy to all my singletrack brethren west of the Mississippi,

    I am new to the forum and will be heading out the Moab area the dates of September 9th through the 17th. Any suggestions for must do rides ?

    Also if anyone out there will be around those dates and needs a riding partner feel free to drop me a line. I do not get out to Utah much so I am all about getting some long days in the saddle.

    Hope to see you on the trail.

    Cheers,

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    If you find yourself looking at Porcupine Rim, do yourself a favor and start higher up at Burro Pass. You can do a 35 mile ride through several different linked trails dropping 7000' of elevation and ending with Porcupine Rim. They call it the Whole Enchilada and it's amazing. You can get a shuttle ride up to the top - ask at the Chile Pepper Bike Shop and they'll help you get in touch with a shuttle company. You can also rent some sweet demo bikes there.

    I rode the Whole Enchilada on my first Moab trip a couple years ago and it was a life-changingly awesome experience.

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    great info, planing to go there soon

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    Hi there. Just wondering if anything is going on in town around 14-17 Sept? Having trouble finding a com this far out. Admittedly I'm using what appears to be pretty generic reservation pages for the hotels/inns I'm looking at as opposed to calling, maybe that's it?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Great thread! I'm glad to here the 4 wheelin' types are friendly, because I'm one myself...

    I'm headed to Moab 9/18-9/23 with my Jeep club, but wanted to get at least a couple of good rides in. I've been to Moab a few times before, but this will be my first time with my MTB and the first time with my Jeep. Looking forward to it!

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    Any recent White Rim news? I know the road has been closed from Mineral Bottom to Hardscrabble to cars, but open to bikes and foot traffic. Can anyone comment on the current condition on how that section is? Sandy? Muddy? I plan to ride clockwise, starting at Mineral and ending with the closed section. Thanks!

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    Ride Partner wanted 10/14 or 10/15/11

    I would like to do the whole enchilada or Poison Spider. They are on the bucket list. The family will be with me but my husband doesn't ride so he will be hanging with the kids. I have been riding 15 yrs and should be able to handle both rides, I just like to have a partner just in case. I also like to shuttle.

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    Well finally getting out to Moab next week. A group of 5 of us has turned into a group of two. Our biggest concern is finding that great mountain biking campsite. I have searched through this forum and hear a lot about Sand Flats. Our biggest concern is going early November, and want to make sure we get the most sun possible. I hear spots near the river dont get much early morning sun do to the big cliffs. Is Sand Flats a good spot or should i look for another place? Where would a local go to camp in early Nov?

    Thanks for any help?

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    Sand Flats will get lots of sun, go to site C which is just up the hill past the Slickrock trailhead.

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    Thats great help, thanks. How about firewood? I do realize that Moab is in the midddle of the stinking desert. Im driving there from Tahoe, and am wondering if i should bring wood. dont really want to go to a grocery store and buy a small bundle for $5. I am happy to bring it if needed. Thanks again

    Oh, and is finding Sand Flats difficult? Ive been to Moab, but not to ride.

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    You'll need to bring firewood or get the bundle at a gas station/grocery store, there is none at the camp site.

    Just follow the signs in town for the Sand Flats Recreation area or Slickrock trail. You'll pay a fee to use the campsite ($10 per night per car). Go past the Slickrock trailhead parking lot, up a hill. Road will go from paved to improved dirt. Right at this spot is where sites C (left of the road) and D (right of the road) are.

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    Ill be in Moab wednesday the 2nd-8th. Looking to ride DH terrian/trails. Been to moab but never for biking so can anyone recommend DH trails? Ive talked with some shops and they reccomended "the portal trail"...difficult? Porqupine rim and whole enchilada, are these dh or xc?
    I'll be climbing as well so if anyone climbs and rides give me a shout. Thanks for the help!

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    Any advice on more downhill-style rides?

    Quote Originally Posted by PNW DH View Post
    Ill be in Moab wednesday the 2nd-8th. Looking to ride DH terrian/trails. Been to moab but never for biking so can anyone recommend DH trails? Ive talked with some shops and they reccomended "the portal trail"...difficult? Porqupine rim and whole enchilada, are these dh or xc?
    I'll be climbing as well so if anyone climbs and rides give me a shout. Thanks for the help!
    I'm also planning a trip for my 35th birthday with a group of more downhill-style riders. We're not afraid to pedal, but are downhillers. Thanks ahead!

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    Hi all!

    This thread is great. I'm planning on being in Moab in early January.

    Weather-wise... what should I look out for? Am I going to get hit with a monster snow storm that will bury my tent? Or is it usually pretty mild?

    Trail-wise... what should I look out for? Can I ride all the trails in the area this time of year?

    Ride-wise... where should I look for people who are going on rides? Is there a local forum I could look at? I'm going to be solo, and don't want to spend money on a full guided tour. Would rather hook up with others who are going out the days when I'll be in town.

    Thanks and I can't wait to ride Moab!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dickt3030 View Post
    Hi all!

    This thread is great. I'm planning on being in Moab in early January.

    Weather-wise... what should I look out for? Am I going to get hit with a monster snow storm that will bury my tent? Or is it usually pretty mild?

    Trail-wise... what should I look out for? Can I ride all the trails in the area this time of year?

    Ride-wise... where should I look for people who are going on rides? Is there a local forum I could look at? I'm going to be solo, and don't want to spend money on a full guided tour. Would rather hook up with others who are going out the days when I'll be in town.

    Thanks and I can't wait to ride Moab!!
    Anything can happen in January, you could be riding in shorts or buried in snow. Down low snow usually goes away quickly and trails open. Nights are cold. Bike shops and this forum are good places to look for people to ride with.

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    I am trying to coordinate a couple of groups meeting in Moab in May 2012. Last year when we were there April 30-May 1 the shuttles said they needed a few more weeks and the Whole Enchilada would be open.

    I have heard many others say that it isn't open till June or July. What's typical? Thanks Mark
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    I am trying to coordinate a couple of groups meeting in Moab in May 2012. Last year when we were there April 30-May 1 the shuttles said they needed a few more weeks and the Whole Enchilada would be open.

    I have heard many others say that it isn't open till June or July. What's typical? Thanks Mark
    Typical is that it depends on many things. Typical is that fall is the best time to ride it. Also typical is that when it opens in the late spring or summer, it's usually very hot which is difficult for many and dangerous for some.

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    Hi guys,

    As my username tells i'm a french biker.
    i'm planning my bike/road trip to Utah/Colorado area to ride the trails with my 575 on September.
    i have not yet found the trails i'll ride but for first i'm wondering if September is the right season to go.
    it's not cold yet ? not too much rain and about trails conditions ?

    Thanks for your help, think i'll have other questions later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchi rider View Post
    Hi guys,

    As my username tells i'm a french biker.
    i'm planning my bike/road trip to Utah/Colorado area to ride the trails with my 575 on September.
    i have not yet found the trails i'll ride but for first i'm wondering if September is the right season to go.
    it's not cold yet ? not too much rain and about trails conditions ?

    Thanks for your help, think i'll have other questions later.
    Southern Utah is a desert. September is usually great. High in the mountains can be very different. It really depends on where you are. September is a great time to ride the Burro trail all the way down to the colorado river. Think about adding that ride to your list.

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    A couple of us midwesterners are planning a trip to Moab over memorial day weekend. Any must do trail suggestions, I just watched a video of the whole enchilada over at bike rags site and was very impressed but bummed it wont be open most likely when we are there.

    Any help would be appreciated.

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