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    New question here. What is hands down the best DJ frame in the world?

    Hey, I may want to buy a new frame, but since I already have a tone of components laying around I may be able to splurge a little bit on the frame. SO what is the best MTB dirt jumping frame?
    I heard that the Jackle was number one along with the Yeti DJ, but I am not sure...?

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    will you stop posting already? theres not an end-all be-all best frame. it depends what exactly youre looking for in the frame, what geo you prefer, etc.


    just shut up and ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtjumper3
    Hey, I may want to buy a new frame, but since I already have a tone of components laying around I may be able to splurge a little bit on the frame. SO what is the best MTB dirt jumping frame?
    I heard that the Jackle was number one along with the Yeti DJ, but I am not sure...?
    well in my opinion you heard wrong. never ridden either frame but the SC jackal is a disappointment from the looks of it. geo isn't anything special, they are made of alum. yet heavier then most steel frames and they aren't cheap. they do have a cool look though. Yeti DJ's look like a solid frame but again, nothing special and to me not worth the money and probably won't hold up to as much as many other frames.

    do some research, there are plenty better frames out there for the money, probably all made by small companies. it also depends on the rider and what "terrain" they are riding.

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    Well then... what is the most durable, longest lasting, geometicly perfect, lightest frame there is?


    Ohhh... and my bike is in the shop, so what else am I going to do?

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    thats like asking what the best icecream is.

    its preference. there is no "best" frame.

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    How can that be? IF there are best DJ forks, best rims, best brakes... then there must be a best frame! Well anyway, what do you guys THINK the best frame is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtjumper3
    Well then... what is the most durable, longest lasting, geometicly perfect, lightest frame there is?


    Ohhh... and my bike is in the shop, so what else am I going to do?
    you aren't going to find one frame that is the strongest, lightest, fanciest, sweetest, best geometry-est etc...

    you need to learn more about the geo and general spec of frames, then you will wonder why you posted this thread. asking such a general question is just going to get you a lot of sarcastic answers...it all depends on what you are going to be doing..and not just "dirt jumping" in general.

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    there arnt really best forks, brakes, or rims either.

    only best stuff for a particular rider.

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    So what frame would you recomend for me:

    1) I like getting as much air as possible (light)
    2) I like doing 10 feet drops on flat (durable)
    3) I kind of like the P2 and jackle thing where you can get your leg though that area under the seat easily
    4) I sometimes trial ride
    5) I don't want ot buy another frame for like five years (long lasting)
    6) I like it very responsive to my moves (good geomitry)
    7) last but not least I want it to look good (looks)

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    kid...seriously....what are you...8 ?

    there is no such thing as a "best fork" or a "best frame" how many times do we have to tell you this?
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    thats about a 5,000 dollar frame....

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    Well like I said, I already have all the components, all I am buying is a frame here, which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggiebiker
    Pinarello > Colnago


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    Quote Originally Posted by aggiebiker
    Thats a fvcking road bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bao
    Pinarello > Colnago

    yeah, your right.

    http://www.pedalmag.com/images/pedal...arello%201.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtjumper3
    Thats a fvcking road bike.
    really? i couldnt tell.

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    lol, black market mobs are pretty sick

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    the mob seems to BMXy for me, but I do like the riot a little, http://www.blackmarketbikes.com/riot.html

    And the cannondale chase seems nice too.

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    I know I shouldn't be encouraging these sorta retarded threads... but to answer this kid's original question:

    The 2 "best" dirt jump frames I've been blessed to help build up and ride:





    'nuff said.

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    My friend has the Yeti 4x, I rode it and hate it, you cant do anything special with full suspension. I looking for a hard tail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtjumper3
    My friend has the Yeti 4x
    Who's your "friend"?

    Less than 1,000 of these frames have ever been made. They're highly sought after (for very obvious reasons) and I can only think of 2 people in the greater Bay Area (since you seem to be from Walnut Creek) who own one and they both race for Yeti/Fox factory.

    I rode it and hate it, you cant do anything special with full suspension. I looking for a hard tail.
    World-cup racer Jared Graves seems to disagree.

    And isn't it somewhat ironic of you to claim you can't do anything "special"? Seems like the only thing "special" YOU can do is trash your bike: I keep bending my rims!!!!
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    ^^^^ ftw.

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    lol nothing special with dual suspension somebody hasn't seen roam or any the new world disorder movies.


    if you want something to last get a planet x pit bull they are cromo and way heavy duty. but seriously you need to learn what you like in a bike and go from there

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    I found your frame.



    you're lucky, its only a complete bike option. so you could you know...probably sell all your components and put a super monster on there and go hit the jumps. the benefit of having two rear wheels, is your bike will no longer tip when you shift your weight, this gives you much better cornering skills and will be mighty handy in tight berms.

    With the use of the handles instead of handlebars, this gives you a much larger advantage, because....NOW YOU CAN PRETEND YOU'RE IN A HELICOPTER!

    The front wheel is direct drive, this gives you better control over your braking and to an extent cornering and acceleration. no more waiting for those hubs to engage. The bike is driven by the front wheel, this will make the bike a good all around trail bike. Take it to whistler one day, jump it the next then finish off the week with a XC race.

    With the super monster, it'll be capable of anything you can throw at it.
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    i think everyone here will say that thats the sickest bike ever.




    p.s. look at that head angle!

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    My friend races almost at the pro level on 4x, he went to colorodo to special order it.

    And if you notice in roam, the DJ section is all HARD TAILS!!! If I was into free ride I would have full suspension no dought, but hard tail makes you a better rider.

    Anyway, on a calmer note, I am between the Cannondale chase and the Yeti DJ frame, unless someone has a better one?

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    ohh yea, because the cowan DS is just for FR.
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    STOP POSTING. my iq goes down every time i read one of your posts.

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    Ok Bender!

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    I would get short chain stays and a big cockpit made of steel.
    "Don't give up, Never give up!"

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    Ya, the yeti DJ has a bigger chain stay than most bikes so it won't really work for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtjumper3
    My friend races almost at the pro level on 4x, he went to colorodo to special order it.
    Your "friend' must not be really smart. He could've just clicked here: http://www.yeticycles.com/Dealers/Dealers.cfm

    made a few phone calls and he would've been able to get one. What a waste of a plane ticket...

    If I was into free ride I would have full suspension no dought, but hard tail makes you a better rider.
    Funny, didn't you claim this was you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtjumper3
    yes i can, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnM-xOE928o me at whistler this year.
    in this thread: What DJ/urban tricks have you made up? ...Pics?

    Anyway, on a calmer note, I am between the Cannondale chase and the Yeti DJ frame, unless someone has a better one?
    Yeah, tell Mommy and Daddy to cut me a check for $2,000 and you can have my bike!




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    I rented a full suspension bike and headed up to whistler for a week, is there a problem with that? And no, I don't want to buy your bike! I said I like to Dirt Jump, not race! And seeing no one here is going to help me out with getting a new frame...

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    I'll sell my one-off custom anodized (in a very slightly different shade of black) custom built Addict Cycles DJ for 3 large.

    If you ride hard, you'll likely break an aluminum frame. Aluminum has a limited fatigue life. There is no frame that is absolutely indestructible. If you want to drop a few G's on a frame, Charge makes a Ti frame. No fatigue life, light, terribly expensive.

    The Yeti DJ weighs like 6 pounds. There are lighter frames out there.

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    Thanks XSL, I was considering the difference between steel and aluminum, although i hate the look of the steel frames, they all look like BMX bikes. But I don't have enough cash to go over a grand at the time. I am going to do a lot more reaserch, I just made this topic in hopes that somone knew of a perfect DJ frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtjumper3
    I rented a full suspension bike and headed up to whistler for a week, is there a problem with that? And no, I don't want to buy your bike! I said I like to Dirt Jump, not race! And seeing no one here is going to help me out with getting a new frame...
    Racing 4x/dual IS dirt jumping. Nobody said you couldn't dirt jump a 4x bike.

    The Yeti is a great hardtail. You definitely won't be unhappy on it (I've never seen anybody frown riding a Yeti...).

    Go buy one and stop posting.

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    Nothing is perfect. Everything is a compromise.

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    no, the chain guid is too long on the yeti, I can trial ride with it.

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    Chain guide? Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

    So you can't jump a squishie, huh? Hmmm... I guess I wasn't really jumping all those years then... D@mn...

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    I don't understand what you are talking about?

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    You said that dual suspension bikes are inadequate for jumping...

    I DJed on my Kona Coiler. Pictures aren't anything special, but it goes to prove a point.




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    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    but it goes to prove a point.
    point = wills a skinny little farker! oh yeah, and sweet jumps.



    this thread = retarded, and why isn't my coffee working this morning?

    you can friggin DJ on anything, best bike is pretty much irrelevant. i ride my bottlerocket on the same jumps that dudes on 20's shred.

    best bike = anything that doesn't break.

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    karpiel apocalypse, id bet bender would dj on it

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    why don't we have moderators who will ban this 3 year old? Maybe they can get rid of pantelis as well. The downfall of mtbr draws near...

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomrcrkhsbiker
    why don't we have moderators who will ban this 3 year old? Maybe they can get rid of pantelis as well. The downfall of mtbr draws near...
    its another potvinwanab lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by euroford
    point = wills a skinny little farker! oh yeah, and sweet jumps.



    this thread = retarded, and why isn't my coffee working this morning?

    you can friggin DJ on anything, best bike is pretty much irrelevant. i ride my bottlerocket on the same jumps that dudes on 20's shred.

    best bike = anything that doesn't break.
    1)your right, he is skiny
    2)agreed, u can jump anything
    3)bottlerocket... *drool*



    ok dude, there is no "best" frame is what you like...go test some out and see what you like the best

    now stop posting stupid posts
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    Hey kid, stick with your P2 it's a perfectly fine jumping frame. Why don't you built that up with better forks and whatnot. Once you out grow the P2 then you'll have some notch components to transfer to a frame you know damn well you'll like. By that time you'd have been riding enough to know what geo will fit your size and style. Right now people will be referring a shape frame that suits their style. Right now you probably have zero style and are a dead sailor jumping. Quit rushing, you got years to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtjumper3
    the mob seems to BMXy for me, but I do like the riot a little, http://www.blackmarketbikes.com/riot.html

    And the cannondale chase seems nice too.
    THe mob and riot share the exact same geometry, only difference is tubing used and weight. So neither is more bmx-ish than the other.

    There is no best frame, so quit looking for it.

    IMO, any lightweight Steel frame with the geometry and features you like will rock on the DJ's, but the bike isn't doing much of the work, the rider is. Give DJ pros a bone stock p.1 or STP and they'll be able to ride it just as well as their high end boutique bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ServeEm
    Hey kid, stick with your P2 it's a perfectly fine jumping frame. Why don't you built that up with better forks and whatnot. Once you out grow the P2 then you'll have some notch components to transfer to a frame you know damn well you'll like. By that time you'd have been riding enough to know what geo will fit your size and style. Right now people will be referring a shape frame that suits their style. Right now you probably have zero style and are a dead sailor jumping. Quit rushing, you got years to go.
    EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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