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    Lets do some lines.........

    Pick pic 1, or pic 2.
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    pic 1 all the way
    i was hoping that the seat tube would be a bit shorter, but it's hard to visualize without the complete frame yet.
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    I like pic 2, not sure why, I just do.

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    i like the straight looks of pic 1 but with the chain stay and angles of everything looks kinda odd so i say pic2

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    i thought everyone had agreed on straight tt and seatstays?
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    I say neither. I'm usaually a fan of the first pic (straight), and if I had to chose out of your 2 options, I would still choose the first. But..... I dont really like the toptube being that low. So I suggest still have a toptube that is straight with the seatstays, but raise is abit and at the end of the seatstay, curve the tube down to the dropouts. Heres your pic with my suggestion, the red line.
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    pic 1 all the way. keep up the good work. i can't wait to see how this thing turns out.

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    i was a fan of straight tt and stays but it looks kinda trials ish in the first pic, the tt and dt are so close, so im not to sure, i think ill vote for number 2

    and cummings your design seems weeker to me but i do like were your goin w/ that idea,

    how the heck do i get my pic on here?

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    Cummings, you're just making the design more complicated with the bend and all, which is probably weaker than the other two. It does look better though.
    Actually, i can't make up my mind. I love designs with the straight tt and seat stays, but it looks a little low and there's too much seat tube sticking out for my tastes. Pic 2 does look better.
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    Oh my dear lord, I'm in love with number 1. That is actually a shorter seat tube length short of my frame design. That bent seat tube is trumptasticly sweet. Whoever gets this is one lucky son of a *****.
    I'm out of things to say . . .

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    I think if the seattube were hacked down anymore, you'd loose the ability to change your seat height at all.

    Maybe a brace would help the appearance. I agree that pic 1 looks a little too low slung and the TT/DT are too close, but it is super clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cummings
    I say neither. I'm usaually a fan of the first pic (straight), and if I had to chose out of your 2 options, I would still choose the first. But..... I dont really like the toptube being that low. So I suggest still have a toptube that is straight with the seatstays, but raise is abit and at the end of the seatstay, curve the tube down to the dropouts. Heres your pic with my suggestion, the red line.
    Looks good, but that is a structural nono. Twist kills, ever flat drop an Ellsworth ? I could go into the details, but I would'nt want to put anyone to sleep.
    Trust me.
    And btw thats an 11'' seat tube, and as I remember, it's what was the most popular.
    Cru Jones messed all traditional design up with his sick drop outs, and I made them.
    And they are stayin'.
    I'll cut and fit pic 2, and show it before I put 2000 degrees to it.
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    I think Pic 2 looks better.
    1st is sleeker, but too trials-ish, unless that's what you want.
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    I thought it would be cool to make a joke about the title of this thread,well, I'm not.

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    Pic 1. All the way, no question about it.

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    Pic 1 fa sho!!! But, maybe cut an inch or so from seat tube??? That sucker looks like it's meant to fly...

    The whole idea behind the dropouts was to keep the TT inline with the seat stay and have a super low standover. Yeah, it might look a little trials-ish... but, like Rick said, we ain't makin' no cookie cutter!!!
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    I think the cutting can occur once the frame is built up. Because we have no idea of the exact position and size of the top tube and seat stays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turboinferno83
    I thought it would be cool to make a joke about the title of this thread,well, I'm not.
    I will.

    I think the thread title scared away the kids with this in there sig...

    "98 % of all teens do drugs or have tried drugs if you are in the 2 % range copy and paste this in to your Signature"

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    I would go with pic 1, looks really original so far!
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    pic 1 is the way to go... reminds me of a trails frame because of the low standover and the short chainstays but the high head tube makes it straight up nasty for some park/dj action

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    Pic 1 for sure! It's low tt makes double cans, turndowns, tailwhips and decades a breeze. The inline tt looks awsome. The second pic looks a little more to the cookie cutter side. That is one huge dt though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthewelder
    Looks good, but that is a structural nono. Twist kills, ever flat drop an Ellsworth ? I could go into the details, but I would'nt want to put anyone to sleep.
    Trust me.
    And btw thats an 11'' seat tube, and as I remember, it's what was the most popular.
    Cru Jones messed all traditional design up with his sick drop outs, and I made them.
    And they are stayin'.
    I'll cut and fit pic 2, and show it before I put 2000 degrees to it.
    RTW.
    Alright, sorry bout that. I was just trying to figure a way of keeping the toptube in line with the seat stay, without being to close to the downtube.
    Here's an actual bike pic i found that kinda uses the idea i was thinking. Tonic.
    Well anyway, if that wont work, cool, I vote for pic 1. is there anyway we could maybe cut the seattube a bit? If you do leave it longer, a brace would be great for the appearance. You could even make it cooler by making the brace a cool shape, and engraving Old School Welding on it. Im not sure of a shape, but something jagged would be cool, like the shape of the deity seatpost clamp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turboinferno83
    I thought it would be cool to make a joke about the title of this thread,well, I'm not.
    I have to admit, I really wanted to make a cocaine joke when I first saw the title. Cocaine jokes are funny.

    Back on topic, I like the compact look of the first option.

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    Pic 1- how about a double top tube that turns into the stays like an old Torker or Haro? I guess that's the same as Imperial too.

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    Top Tube in

    1st, about the coke jokes, I did not mean to infer anything with a thread title except what the title says, lets make a frame, lets do it, lets do some lines.
    I don't care who uses drugs, I don't, and think it is a huge waste of time and hard earned money. I did plenty when I was younger, and smoked cigarettes too, and if I could take back anything from my life and do it over, those would be the things I would pick. And, no, I'm not a Jesus freak !
    But, to each his own.
    Now, here is a pic of the straight TT, I just put it in. Like I said, no heat til everyone checks in.
    I'm gonna go ride 12 miles now on my HT, It gets me high
    I'll check back this afternoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cummings
    If you do leave it longer, a brace would be great for the appearance. You could even make it cooler by making the brace a cool shape, and engraving Old School Welding on it. Im not sure of a shape, but something jagged would be cool, like the shape of the deity seatpost clamp.
    What about something that looks like this. It may not be jagged, but it is more representative of the time we all put into this.
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    Man MTBR has a weird way of placing posts... Anyway rick, take a look at that crude pic of a top tube/seat tube bracket, I think it'd be cool, since brackets can't be sanded off like paint, so that no one can ever forget that we all put at least some time in there.

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    I like that top tube, looks much better than the blue line in your first pic, but do you think you could cut down the seat tube by maybe an inch? Looks a bit tall.
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    lookin good, im diggin pic #1
    woooooooooo

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    dang it looks alot better to me now the you got actual steel put in there instead of a line,

    its really lookin nice now

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    psssss...its alum.

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    Yeah pic #1.
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    Hey rick, that straight top tube looks pretty damn good. it gets my vote, beats #2. Can you have a look at post #7 and #8 by me and snaky, tell us what ya think.

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    I'm all about pic 2.

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    Here's an idea: make the tubing look like it's off of a Fall Guy. That would totally pimp this frame to the limit! WORD.

    Was that wiggerish or what?

    But seriously, that would look pretty cool.
    I'm out of things to say . . .

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    Pic #1 for sure... I would love to see beefy rectangle chain stays.
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    ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i like the straight tt/st deal...looks hot rick, cant wait to see this thing together

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    WIth the TT in, it looks better now. I think a brace would still help it's appearance (and probably functionality). DO NOT HACK DOWN THAT SEATTUBE ANYMORE! WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST THE SEAT HEIGHT IF WE HAVE TO!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    WIth the TT in, it looks better now. I think a brace would still help it's appearance (and probably functionality). DO NOT HACK DOWN THAT SEATTUBE ANYMORE! WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST THE SEAT HEIGHT IF WE HAVE TO!!!!!
    Use my brace

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    Quote Originally Posted by cummings
    Hey rick, that straight top tube looks pretty damn good. it gets my vote, beats #2. Can you have a look at post #7 and #8 by me and snaky, tell us what ya think.

    Pic 1 wins. I'll machine the cutouts in the Cru's tomorrow, I just made the stays, both seat, and chain.
    The seat tube is a sleeve, straight guage, with a seat tube inserted down to the kink. I will weld around the top, and place a tube gusset behind, where the stress concentrates. We figured it out @ my ''real'' job when the 4X , slalom bikes all cracked @ the same area.
    I can't wait to take it out of the jig and '' put the money '' on it.
    I'm thinking it will have a MTBR head badge.
    Time to find a painter................

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthewelder
    Pic 1 wins. I'll machine the cutouts in the Cru's tomorrow, I just made the stays, both seat, and chain.
    The seat tube is a sleeve, straight guage, with a seat tube inserted down to the kink. I will weld around the top, and place a tube gusset behind, where the stress concentrates. We figured it out @ my ''real'' job when the 4X , slalom bikes all cracked @ the same area.
    I can't wait to take it out of the jig and '' put the money '' on it.
    I'm thinking it will have a MTBR head badge.
    Time to find a painter................

    RTW.
    Have it stamped, and then bend it and weld it to the head tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthewelder
    Pic 1 wins. I'll machine the cutouts in the Cru's tomorrow, I just made the stays, both seat, and chain.
    The seat tube is a sleeve, straight guage, with a seat tube inserted down to the kink. I will weld around the top, and place a tube gusset behind, where the stress concentrates. We figured it out @ my ''real'' job when the 4X , slalom bikes all cracked @ the same area.
    I can't wait to take it out of the jig and '' put the money '' on it.
    I'm thinking it will have a MTBR head badge.
    Time to find a painter................

    RTW.
    so far so good. it's quite sexy IMO. did you decide on what kind of paint scheme you wanted? getting a color (white or mint) that matches with the argygle would look pretty sweet. or just paint the argyle... you could just make it the toughest bike ever and just black rhinoline it.

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    Looks good Rick!!! This thing might end up being one of the lightest DJ/Urban/Park frames out right now.

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    My late vote is for Pic 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by bidaci
    My late vote is for Pic 1

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    Whoa! that was cool
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    haha, wow, I leave town for a few days without my computer, and the thing is almost built! haha...
    looks great! I'm impressed. The Pic 1 looks fantastic, but of course, these things will look much different when built! I really like it though. looks so solid.
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    I still say a Fall Guyish seat stay would look so sweet, but hey, not my bike!
    I'm out of things to say . . .

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