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    Fork Recommendations

    Looking to upgrade the fork on my '05 Specialized P2. I do both urban and light DJ. I weigh about 220#s. What travel length is best 80 or 100mm? Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks

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    What's your budget?

    There's about a dozen of these threads already started.

    Apparently since I'm a tool (per another thread), I'm going to recommend looking at the Pike and the Argyle. Ease of use, lots of adjustments, great dampening, very solid forks. Gold Labels and slammed Shermans are also nice. I would defiintely recommend a TPC+ Manitou Sherman. They're relatively light, you can permanently reduce the travel (lowest I've reduced one to is 65mm), shimstacks can be played around with to change the feel.

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    Budget is around $350. I may be looking for a used fork to get more for my $. I'm pretty open right now, I know that I have to replace my Marzocchi Dirt Jam Pro because its a piece of $hit. Every time my front wheel leaves the ground it slams open. Feels like the lowers are going to just keep going right on past the stanctions.

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    Wow, that is a bad case of top out.


    My dj3's don't top out at all, mind you I barely have any air in them(I'm pretty light at 150lbs geared)
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastNdirty
    Budget is around $350. I may be looking for a used fork to get more for my $. I'm pretty open right now, I know that I have to replace my Marzocchi Dirt Jam Pro because its a piece of $hit. Every time my front wheel leaves the ground it slams open. Feels like the lowers are going to just keep going right on past the stanctions.

    word bro, i just rode my friends new cowan yesterday that came with a dj3...exact same thing happened. caught me off guard when i was manulling it. there is another thread about this same subject where you could get a ton of info, but i will just say again that i recommend a pike

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    Some Marzocchi SSV dampened forks have wicked top-out. Check oil levels, run less air pressure, maybe run a more viscous oil.

    350 can get you a Pike for sure. Unreal has the air model for 375 new (thus with warranty). But SRAM really isn't a stickler for warranty issues.

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    my dj3's are workin fine on my hardrock

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    im not sure how much they are but the new rock show totems look pretty cool and have got a big right up

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolling racer
    im not sure how much they are but the new rock show totems look pretty cool and have got a big right up
    They are over a grand, plus, he's looking into an urban fork, not an 180mm hucking/downhill single crown.

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    Yea, remember, we're looking for a street dj fork, not a hucking monster. Anyway, there are many threads on this topic, not trying to be rude, but just do a search and you will get the exact same answers in those threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaky69
    They are over a grand, plus, he's looking into an urban fork, not an 180mm hucking/downhill single crown.
    Well said.

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    Ended up getting the new Marz 4X. Feels way better than the Dirt Jam Pro amd much lighter too.

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    Thanks for guinea pigging it for us.

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    nice. ride it and give us a review

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    Yes, do. Personally, I don't think there is any difference between a 2007 DIrt Jumper and a 4x except 110 mm vs 100 mm, but that's based on the site info.
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    100, maybe more?

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    Im pretty sure there is alarge weight difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyharry
    Yes, do. Personally, I don't think there is any difference between a 2007 DIrt Jumper and a 4x except 110 mm vs 100 mm, but that's based on the site info.
    The crown is different, the 4x uses an air spring I belive.

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    Brad's customed 4x uses an air spring, but i dunno bout the normal one. WHat's the crown difference?
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    Doesn't use pinch bolts and I think it is somewhat of a different shape. Check out marz's site.

    There you go, marz 4x, not pinch bolts and holes in the crown to make it lighter. http://www.marzocchi.com/Template/de...DOggetto=30798

    Dj3, pinch bolts and a slightly bigger crown.
    http://www.marzocchi.com/Template/de...DOggetto=30800

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    Pike, Gold Label, or used Nixon. Used to run Marzocchis but the weight is killer and so is quality of the cheaper forks. Top out and bad rebound countrol in general also broke a DJ3 at the drop out.... P frames are heavy as hell to begin with, mine was a tank with a DJ3.

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    Woah, P. frames heavy? Hold on there, my friends p.1 frame is crazy light, compared to mine of course. Mine is atleast 9 pounds (just the frame!).
    I'm out of things to say . . .

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    You just got straight out shafted then. My Coiler weighed under nine WITH THE SHOCK. Stab Supremes weigh around 9.5 with the shock. The Cowan is 5 pounds. My Addict is a hair under 5 pounds. Scott Voltage YZO weighs a hair under 5 with the thru-axle. Even the Azonic Steelhead is only 7.5 pounds. You get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyharry
    Woah, P. frames heavy? Hold on there, my friends p.1 frame is crazy light, compared to mine of course. Mine is atleast 9 pounds (just the frame!).


    What kind of frame is it?!... 9lbs is a ton for a hardtail unless its made from Hi tensile lead?...

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    He's got a Trek Bruiser.

    P1 is going to feel lighter because it doesn't have gears, front brake, other heavy stuff, etc.

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    Ouch I have never liked those frames geo or I guess period.

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    My bike's singlespeed! Either the tires are making it feel heavier than it is, or it's just plain heavy. I am not going to be taking all the stuff off to weigh the frame, but it's heavier than J-doggs steelhead by A LOT. But I've got some seriously large tires.
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    P. frames arent heavy.
    mine weighs in around 5.5 pounds.

    complete my P. is 28 pounds.

    now tell me, is that heavy ?
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    I may be off a bit, but I'm going to back up the estimation that my bike is 45 pounds singlespeed.
    I'm out of things to say . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyharry
    Yes, do. Personally, I don't think there is any difference between a 2007 DIrt Jumper and a 4x except 110 mm vs 100 mm, but that's based on the site info.

    lowers are different as well as everything else Snaky69 said- look at the drops on each and compare. More formed on the 4X. don't assume these things... at least look at the pictures before you do...
    Schralp it Heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyharry
    I may be off a bit, but I'm going to back up the estimation that my bike is 45 pounds singlespeed.

    I'm doubting this assumption as well dirtyharry...
    but, you know, this negative (reverse?) exaggeration is interesting though, most people at least attempt to make their own possesions sound better than they really are, instead of just throwing it out there that the sh!t is a brick....
    Schralp it Heavy.

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    I'm not kidding. Tell you what, I'll try and weigh it. Of course, I have to find a scale.

    The bike may be heavy, but I sure do enjoy it. I'm learning to flick it around quite well. As soon as my soccer tournament is over, I'm going to go for the 15 footer (the next step up from what I'm jumping now). I did the current 8 footer so perfectly the other day. So, SO smooth, it was crazy.
    I'm out of things to say . . .

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    Use the bathroom scale, not the most accurate, but gives you a ballpark figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyharry
    I'm not kidding. Tell you what, I'll try and weigh it. Of course, I have to find a scale.

    The bike may be heavy, but I sure do enjoy it..
    There is no way your bike is 45lbs, thats just rediculous. My hard tail is a tank and its 36.5...

    45lb HT, geeze, maybe a monster T on a morphine would get you that high...

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    i don't have a bathroom scale . . .
    I'm out of things to say . . .

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