Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 50 of 64
  1. #1
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    229

    Dirt Jumping Niche - Can an Old Guy Noob be Accepted?

    I recently bought a DJ bike, some people on this site may consider it a poser / inferior bike (its the Specialized P2). I am a beginner but the bike is making me look good cause it jumps so easy, ran it at the local pump track and found the other riders to appreciate the bike instead of hating on it. I am not a stupid man, I understand that DJ'ing is kind of an underground activity that appeals to younger people and they may not want it to turn into a commercialized mainstream activity over-run with posers and hacks. But, what I can say is that the guys I chatted with yesterday were friendly and enthusiastic about my presence there, and my willingness to learn the sport. I guess I expected to be potentially rejected, but I actually found that the DJ set in my city were actually more friendly than the MTB set. Geez, maybe I want it to stay underground myself, now that I think about it. Anyway, next time you see an older guy that seems like a poser at your local DJ park, just give him a chance, he may understand he is kind of out of place, he won't ruin your good time, and he is probably going to do more good for your sport than harm.

  2. #2
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    853
    You get old when you stop playing, you stay young when you keep on playing... What I realise with mtb, bmx and skating is that the dudes that meet eachother don't pay attention to age anymore... You might see a group of very young kids have conversations with guys twice their age. It's all about the riding...

  3. #3
    Slopestyle Rider
    Reputation: joelalamo45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,448
    Old guys get props at the dj's around here. I should know, I'm one of them. While I'm only 36, I still am usually twice the age of most of the kids I ride with.

  4. #4
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    8,075
    Yeah, been spending lots of time at the pumptrack lately, the stigma is only perceived. Everyone is cool with everyone being there at all skill levels.

    And the Specialized P line kicks ass from what I can tell.

  5. #5
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    239
    Its all about havin fun and as long as you pick up a shovel or rake and lend a hand you will get along fine at most dj spots

    I'm 39 and I didn't start djs till I was about 32, never had a bmx. I'm not out there tryin to act like I'm a kid and I'm not trying to go to the xgames, just trying to be a better rider. I find myself hangin out with kids that are still in high school and its cool, most of them are mature from hangin out with older people at the dj spots anyway.

    What seems weird to me is it seems like the people that ride are either old like me or young like still in highschool or just graduated. Not to many people in the mid twenties that ride.

  6. #6
    Slopestyle Rider
    Reputation: joelalamo45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,448
    Quote Originally Posted by TortugaTonta
    Not to many people in the mid twenties that ride.
    A lot of people at that age are drinking and trying to get laid. By the time you are 30 you've plowed through plenty of strange and riding bikes takes priority.

  7. #7
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    513
    This forum is full of hate on the P bikes...I ride an 08 P1( because I have tuitiion to pay for, not another custom frame build) I bet if you were on a road bike and showed up on a "fast" club ride with the young guys you might catch some slack... I've found mountain bikers to be a whole other breed of people. For the most part, everyone is cool but there always has to be someone that doesn't know you that will not like you. If you're having fun on a bike and it is clear to see, than any decent rider should throw you some respect (regardless if you have an expensive custom or a big brand-out of the box bike). Im only 27 but more power to you, and have fun!

  8. #8
    Don't skid
    Reputation: KONA_in_SB's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    1,158
    31 here and have been hanging out at the skate park and DJ's alot lately. Many of the guys are half my age but everyone is cool. Everyone once in awhile there's that "too cool for school" guy, he's usually the one with no helmet that likes to cut people off. I ride a P2 and have never gotten attitude about it, but have noticed that on these boards there is some angst. Another guy I ride with is 55 and rips it at the skate park and knows all the local kids and they know him.
    So no, you're not too old, you'll just progress a little slower (injuries take longer to heal the older you get, it sux).
    The Revolution will not be motorized...especially at $5 per gallon.

  9. #9
    KIBZIE
    Reputation: KIBZIE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    101
    I don't know the first thing about P Series bikes so I can't comment on that but I'm all for new riders, what ever the age. Ive spoken to a few 30+ riders in my area that are getting into DJ/Trails after riding other sorts of bikes for years. I know I'm going to keep riding for as long as I enjoy and my body can take it. Look at John Cowan and Dave Mirra. Into their 30s and still two of the most loved and respected riders in the sport.
    There's Only One Word For That Dude.... B!TCHIN'

  10. #10
    Rb
    Rb is offline
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    1,626
    Age is nothing but a number.

  11. #11
    Slopestyle Rider
    Reputation: joelalamo45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,448
    Quote Originally Posted by KIBZIE
    Look at John Cowan..........the most loved and respected riders in the sport.
    Hey Agency, wanna take a crack at this one since I really shouldn't comment?

  12. #12
    KIBZIE
    Reputation: KIBZIE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    101
    Quote Originally Posted by joelalamo45
    Hey Agency, wanna take a crack at this one since I really shouldn't comment?
    Whats the matter with that?
    There's Only One Word For That Dude.... B!TCHIN'

  13. #13
    Slopestyle Rider
    Reputation: joelalamo45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,448
    Quote Originally Posted by KIBZIE
    Whats the matter with that?
    I'll let the Agency tell you a little about John Cowan.

  14. #14
    I post too much.
    Reputation: snaky69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    6,446
    I like seeing older guys at the DJ's(I'm 19), they are usually pretty cool, often not as good/daring as the young guys, but they usually have awesome bike stories to tell, and are having fun just as much as I am.

  15. #15
    dirt rules
    Reputation: sittingduck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    3,050
    Accept the youngsters for who they are, and they will accept you....
    Show up when it's time to dig.
    Don't obsess about bikes, just ride what you can, and keep it in top shape. Bring some tools and help out the people who let their bikes fall apart.

  16. #16
    mtbr member
    Reputation: DSFA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    810
    Quote Originally Posted by KONA_in_SB
    snip...
    So no, you're not too old, you'll just progress a little slower (injuries take longer to heal the older you get, it sux).
    Ain't that the truth!

    I'm turning the big 4-OH in a couple of weeks.....think I need to take a field trip to some skate parks
    Bikes=Sanity

  17. #17
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    20
    There's this guy that worked at my lbs, I'm not sure if he still does, but everyone calls him uncle jimmi. He's an older guy but he is extreme. Take a look at some of his pictures at this link:

    http://freeridesouth.com/pics/pics.p...ry=uncle+jimmi

    He mainly rode hardtails but, some of the ones on the firs page are of him flipping his full suspension bike. Old guys can throw it down.

  18. #18
    Pro Crastinator
    Reputation: .WestCoastHucker.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    9,647
    Quote Originally Posted by Plats
    ...I am not a stupid man, I understand that DJ'ing is kind of an underground activity that appeals to younger people...
    and all this time, i actually believed you weren't stupid...
    Last edited by .WestCoastHucker.; 08-10-2008 at 11:03 AM. Reason: eye iz teh sukc at teh spellin...


  19. #19
    Slopestyle Rider
    Reputation: joelalamo45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,448
    Where have you been WCH? Not a lot of posting lately... Digging?

  20. #20
    Pro Crastinator
    Reputation: .WestCoastHucker.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    9,647
    Quote Originally Posted by joelalamo45
    Where have you been WCH? Not a lot of posting lately... Digging?
    life and riding related crap. a new job and a few bike trips here and there. recent injuries aren't helping much. we did get a new pump for our trails, pumps out about 3 times the water of our old one. the digging season is starting to go down here...


  21. #21
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    360
    Those who race gravity in Colorado's Mountain States Cup know how a 52 year old rides on a P3, having an earlier P bike frame replaced. I started a 48 years old

  22. #22
    Slopestyle Rider
    Reputation: joelalamo45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,448
    Quote Originally Posted by .WestCoastHucker.
    life and riding related crap. a new job and a few bike trips here and there. recent injuries aren't helping much. we did get a new pump for our trails, pumps out about 3 times the water of our old one. the digging season is starting to go down here...
    I'm gonna be in SoCal the 14th-17th. of August. No bike, but I'd be down to watch you guys ride for a day...

  23. #23
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    70
    I just turned 51. Ha!

  24. #24
    To "Air" Is Human
    Reputation: The Agency's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    753
    I'm almost 33. I didn't realize there were so many of us "older" guys on this forum. I got a guy coming in for a Commencal Max Max later that is in his 40's. He already owns a DMR Transition 24".

    Quote Originally Posted by joelalamo45
    I'll let the Agency tell you a little about John Cowan.
    Wow, how did I miss this thread? Too much Olympics! I had a big response typed out here with a story from CO Crankworx but I don't think this is the right thread. Let's just say it is easy to spot John at events...he is the guy with the scowl on his face at all times.

  25. #25
    i like rocks
    Reputation: euroford's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    1,404
    the 30 something and over crowd (which i'm a member of) appears to be the more dedicated group around these parts.
    Tim M Hovey

    IMBA CAMBr COMBA BMA
    Transition Bottlerocket
    Gary Fisher Rig
    Blk Mrkt MOB 4x
    1950 CJ3a
    1999 F350 PSD

  26. #26
    Bikes Rule
    Reputation: Demo-9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    1,133
    dbl post.

  27. #27
    Bikes Rule
    Reputation: Demo-9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    1,133
    The best is being 34 and showing up to the DJ/park areas with a 2 - 6. Double the fun. Most are very cool and really ask about the bike and comment how nice it is. Then I ride for a bit and mention that it is easier for the young guys. That usually spawns off the "how old are you?". Most think that is ancient, but they really act normal. At least where I ride the group is diverse with all ages and 20" through 26" bikes...

  28. #28
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    11
    I think that's old-school thinking anyhow. I'm 40; it's my parent's generation to think that way IMO.

    I'm about to buy a house with some land on it. I'm not thinking twice about building a pump track on it. I don't physically feel any different than when I was in my twenties, and while I now can't afford to be out with an injury that doesn't mean I can't have fun without being too rad.

    There IS one difference I think, though:

    My generation coming up seemed more into getting out there and BUILDING, whether it was dirt jumps, trails, skateboard ramps. Seems like I encounter kids all the time today that say things like "I'd ride more, but the skatepark is too far away, or the track is too far away" - meanwhile, there's woods nearby, a field, whatever.. I ask "do you have a shovel? Do you have a hammer?" and they act like it's some sort of magic to actually build such things, much less have the INITIATIVE to do so.

    / that wasn't me and my buddies when I was 13, riding an "appropriated" sheet of plywood down the hill on my skateboard to build a ramp
    // that also wasn't me that built jumps behind the school.. or a number of other schools
    /// .... or on the lot behind the Kroger
    //// ... or the ramps INSIDE Kroger when they were building it <g>
    ////.... or wearing the rut in that guy's front yard who had the nice table top jump adjacent to his driveway
    ///// .... homeowner's associations can write a notice more easily than tearing down a half-pipe
    ////// etc...

  29. #29
    Slopestyle Rider
    Reputation: joelalamo45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,448
    I'm 36 and my dad used to go to all my amateur AFA comps with me back in the day... we traveled all over the country together at Mongoose's expense. The day before I rode Crankworx Colorado last month, he called me to up to pump me up. Told me a bunch of stuff I forgot about competing (visualize your first trick, think ahead, etc...). Super cool having an almost 60 year old dad who thinks it's cool I still ride and compete...

  30. #30
    mtbr member
    Reputation: HardLuck682's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    51
    we got a clique of 4 riders, im 26, other ages are 44, 30 and 17... age isnt anything...

  31. #31
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    28

    Cool-blue Rhythm Age

    Glad to here age is nothing i'm 47 , just picked up my first dj prob is can't ride i'm in Fl. haven't seen the sun in 5 days. BTW it's an '09 STP 1. I really don't know a darn thing about this stuff but willi'n to learn . open to sugg. Thanks.

  32. #32
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    229
    Yo, here is my update: Did the pump track initially, hope to get back there soon. But, me and the nephew went out to the farm and got our shovels to start our own jump park. Two weekends later and we got three doubles, the largest is a 6 foot gap with almost 3 foot launch. We just started small and the dirt is very forgiving, so cased jumps are easily scrubbed off. DJ'ing is so different than mountain biking, the only thing it has in common is the two wheels. We hang out, shovel, then get all brave and try our jumps each time we make em bigger. Now all the other nephews are excited to get into it; it's gonna be cool, cause our little DJ park is right next to the cabin and we got chairs for peeps to hang out while others hit the jumps.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  33. #33
    mtbr member
    Reputation: cmc4130's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,594
    Quote Originally Posted by TortugaTonta
    Its all about havin fun and as long as you pick up a shovel or rake and lend a hand you will get along fine at most dj spots

    I'm 39 and I didn't start djs till I was about 32, never had a bmx. I'm not out there tryin to act like I'm a kid and I'm not trying to go to the xgames, just trying to be a better rider. I find myself hangin out with kids that are still in high school and its cool, most of them are mature from hangin out with older people at the dj spots anyway.

    What seems weird to me is it seems like the people that ride are either old like me or young like still in highschool or just graduated. Not to many people in the mid twenties that ride.
    that's cuz all the 20 something bmx riders move to austin.

  34. #34
    What's the Speed of Dark?
    Reputation: aeffertz91's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    503
    That's an awesome update Plats!
    Keep the progress going!
    Tricks Like: The Heavy Metal Maniac's Dizz Flip, Redefine the Term "Radness"

  35. #35
    dirt rules
    Reputation: sittingduck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    3,050
    Quote Originally Posted by Plats
    Yo, here is my update: Did the pump track initially, hope to get back there soon. But, me and the nephew went out to the farm and got our shovels to start our own jump park. Two weekends later and we got three doubles, the largest is a 6 foot gap with almost 3 foot launch. We just started small and the dirt is very forgiving, so cased jumps are easily scrubbed off. DJ'ing is so different than mountain biking, the only thing it has in common is the two wheels. We hang out, shovel, then get all brave and try our jumps each time we make em bigger. Now all the other nephews are excited to get into it; it's gonna be cool, cause our little DJ park is right next to the cabin and we got chairs for peeps to hang out while others hit the jumps.
    Get in the habit of building the landings a bit bigger than the lips! Looks like you guys are in for tons of fun!

  36. #36
    mtbr member
    Reputation: cmc4130's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,594
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubens Hakkamacher
    .......

    There IS one difference I think, though:

    My generation coming up seemed more into getting out there and BUILDING, whether it was dirt jumps, trails, skateboard ramps. Seems like I encounter kids all the time today that say things like "I'd ride more, but the skatepark is too far away, or the track is too far away" - meanwhile, there's woods nearby, a field, whatever.. I ask "do you have a shovel? Do you have a hammer?" and they act like it's some sort of magic to actually build such things, much less have the INITIATIVE to do so. ........
    ...
    i know what you mean . . . . but i think some people are builders/diggers and some just aren't. no matter what the age. you just haven't found the right younger dudes to help you.

  37. #37
    mtbr member
    Reputation: cmc4130's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,594
    i think you're right, though about lack of DIY plywood in skateboarding. open any skateboard mag, and the photos are 80% handrails and stairs/ledges, 15% cement skatepark/bowls/pools and 5% or less home-constructed plywood ramps. (where'd i get those numbers? out of my .ass.)

  38. #38
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    239
    Quote Originally Posted by cmc4130
    that's cuz all the 20 something bmx riders move to austin.
    Haha! Thats funny! the one 19 year old I ride with is moving to Greenville NC too ride with Mirra and those guys down there. He will never get any better ridding with an old fart like me so I think its damn cool he is young and has a chance to ride with good guys to step his game up.

  39. #39
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    781
    I'm 47, never left the sport(started dj in 1969) My P bike is the best bike I've ever built and is never dissed on at the trails.

  40. #40
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Bobby Peru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    474
    I am 46 and I started jumping (doubles) a year ago!

    I ride with guys ranging from 12 to 57.... age is a number, that's all. I do not act my age or feel it, most of the time!

    Nobody has ever given me a hard time in person at the dirt jumps. A few people have given attitude online. But never to my face. Funny how some people are very brave behind a computer. 99.9% of the people I have met riding are very cool. Nobody should give you a 'tude for being out riding your bike and having fun.
    "Well I don't drink as much as I ought to."

    ~Jerry Jeff Walker~

  41. #41
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    234
    anyone familiar with the scene in the SF bay area? I'm moving there soon, I freeride, but new to DJ. any tips?

  42. #42
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    22
    24 years old...love my 08 p1--had to change a few things to get it that way though

    Anyone who gives other riders attitude just hurts the sport in my opinion...as long as you have fun riding--regardless of age--that's all that matters

  43. #43
    mtbr member
    Reputation: motts's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    69

    Sheep

    I'm 37, seems like middle of the pack for this crew. I'm glad to hear I have a few years left.
    As far as building goes, the 23 year old I dig with imparted a little wisdom on me after I got bent at some of the younger guys who come out and rip, but never dig.

    Story goes: people are either sheep or goats. Goat are independent, do what they want and tear things up. Sheep people follow everybody else around and get screwed by the farmer in the end.

    I felt better.

  44. #44
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    234
    I'm new to the Montclair area and would like to go ride pleasanton, shells, etc. or freeride. I'm a noob in DJ, have a solid DJ rig, and would be up for riding companions in the Bay Area . PM if interested

  45. #45
    I really like Cookies
    Reputation: ncossey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    170
    You were dirt jumping in 1969, was it on a beach cruiser?

  46. #46
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    89
    this thread made my day as I began to feel a bit old amongst all these 16 year olds at the park...

  47. #47
    Killer of Chains
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    1,797
    I'm 24 now and I still hit the jumps occasionally. While I'm not nearly as good as most of the kids I've got a camera that costs as much as their cars so I offer to take pictures.

    Only downside? College takes away from money being spent on a new DJ bike.

  48. #48
    mtbr member
    Reputation: cmc4130's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,594
    Quote Originally Posted by dpspac3
    anyone familiar with the scene in the SF bay area? I'm moving there soon, I freeride, but new to DJ. any tips?
    http://www.sandhillracing.com/

    I wanted to go there last time I was in SF, but I couldn't make it out.


  49. #49
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    781
    Quote Originally Posted by ncossey
    You were dirt jumping in 1969, was it on a beach cruiser?
    no, I had to build my own BMX. A friend of mine brought home a huge book from the Library about this new sport called BMX. It showed us how to cut a section out of the down tube and seat tube of our stingrays to raise the BB up and reweld it. I then robbed the three piece cranks off my sisters bike. we went to a bicycle wrecking yard in this old guys back yard to scrounge for parts like different cogs and such. Found some knobby tires in the store and for handle bars I took some off an old motorcycle I found laying in the ditch and had my dad weld them on the stem. By the way, the year before that my dad built me a 26" fat tired three speed bike. I call my dad the grandfather of the mountainbike.

  50. #50
    To "Air" Is Human
    Reputation: The Agency's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    753
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy Jim
    no, I had to build my own BMX. A friend of mine brought home a huge book from the Library about this new sport called BMX. It showed us how to cut a section out of the down tube and seat tube of our stingrays to raise the BB up and reweld it. I then robbed the three piece cranks off my sisters bike. we went to a bicycle wrecking yard in this old guys back yard to scrounge for parts like different cogs and such...
    Joe Kid on a Stingray!

    I don't suppose you remember the name of that book? I would love to find it. Cool stuff Jim. A lot of my Cycle Pro was pieced together with Sting Ray parts.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •