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    Quote Originally Posted by GorillaTactics
    ....a lot of those lips are way too steep for 26" wheels....
    one of the dumbest things i have ever read. a bike jump is a bike jump, don't hate because you have no skill.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by .WestCoastHucker.
    one of the dumbest things i have ever read. a bike jump is a bike jump, don't hate because you have no skill.......
    huh? Who the hell am I hating on? And have you ever even been to austin? I also didn't realize you had secret surveillance video of me riding to come to the conclusion that I have "no skill"...

    It's a pretty commonly known fact that you can ride steeper trannies on a 20" than a 26"...look at BMX riders using concrete traffic barricades as quarter pipes. Those jumps are built for BMX bikes...and 20" riders are the only people I have ever seen at 9th street doing the really huge, steep sh!t.

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    for the record, you mentioned nothing about tight trannys. you plainly stated what i quoted. i've built dirt jumps for over 20 years, and have heard the numerous complaints about steep lips being a "bmx" thing and have heard all the excuses...


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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeSATORI
    AWWWWWwwwww, dude, WTF?





    was it the law, vandals, or mother nature herself?
    the trails were a cut through for school kids and thugs....got tired of the crap...some of it's still there just not maintained......
    It should be WAY BIGGER John I'm so out of shape!

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    Quote Originally Posted by .WestCoastHucker.
    for the record, you mentioned nothing about tight trannys. you plainly stated what i quoted. i've built dirt jumps for over 20 years, and have heard the numerous complaints about steep lips being a "bmx" thing and have heard all the excuses...
    Fair enough...by steep lip i meant ridiculously steep transition on the jumps. I could have clarified better, but you don't have to jump down my throat about it. Mostly because
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    ok. you win.....







    retard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GorillaTactics
    Fair enough...by steep lip i meant ridiculously steep transition on the jumps. I could have clarified better, but you don't have to jump down my throat about it. Mostly because
    Classy. Real classy. Mental handicaps are really quite funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXhucker
    Classy. Real classy. Mental handicaps are really quite funny.
    Yeah, I usually point and laugh at handicapped kids when i see them in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXhucker
    Classy. Real classy. Mental handicaps are really quite funny.
    hey, it's not our fault your parents were brother and sister...


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    i have 2 friends that hit up 9th street in austin all the time on their 26's. mainline and all.
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    will someone post some directions to here.

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    denton texas bmx trails

    As of July 27, 2010, these trails are still in an somewhat-ridable state... . I was just out there today and I think that with a few days of work, they'll be good to go again. If anyone has the courage to try to rebuild these with me, let me know. I would really like to have some trails to ride here in denton. I'm going to get some pictures later today to post on here.

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    Denton Tx. trails PICS!!!-cimg2673.jpg
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    Dude talk to Casey Bowman on facebook... I think he's up in Denton. He's a stupid good bmx'er (almost Dew Tour) and he's building in your area... looks like he's digging solo, too. I bet he'd welcome some help throwing dirt.

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    awesome. will do

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    glad somebody put up current pics of these poor trails...they need help bad.

    I quit riding after my dad died in 08...but I'm down to dig again.

    Man I'm out of shape...tempted to change my user name to WAY BIGGER John.
    It should be WAY BIGGER John I'm so out of shape!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGER John
    glad somebody put up current pics of these poor trails...they need help bad.

    I quit riding after my dad died in 08...but I'm down to dig again.

    Man I'm out of shape...tempted to change my user name to WAY BIGGER John.
    yeah i just started riding again myself, but i am definitely down to fix those trails up.

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    if you need a break from diggin, check out big cedar (if you arent already aware) on the south side of dallas too, has some really nice dj's and a few freeride trails too

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    In that first pic http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...8&d=1280277451 I'm noticing the hole on the left. Looks like someone was trying to dig drainage for the pit. Just a friendly suggestion: either that drainage pit should have been off to the right where it's not creating a crater in an otherwise rideable area . . . or expand and blend/transition that hole so you can ride through it, or even make it a future line.
    it's good to think strategically about where to get dirt from, so that the end result is a work of architecture that actually looks good, rather than a moonscape with one rideable jump line.

    also, sent u a PM

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    these pits were feeble attempts to ward off ATVs years ago...I'm sure the new guy will agree with how much damage the ATVs have done in that regard.
    Quote Originally Posted by cmc4130
    In that first pic http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...8&d=1280277451 I'm noticing the hole on the left. Looks like someone was trying to dig drainage for the pit. Just a friendly suggestion: either that drainage pit should have been off to the right where it's not creating a crater in an otherwise rideable area . . . or expand and blend/transition that hole so you can ride through it, or even make it a future line.
    it's good to think strategically about where to get dirt from, so that the end result is a work of architecture that actually looks good, rather than a moonscape with one rideable jump line.

    also, sent u a PM
    It should be WAY BIGGER John I'm so out of shape!

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    yeah there were tons of ruts and a lot of the ramps were little more than hills because of it. we will definitely have to figure out a good way to prevent that from happening again.

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    That place still looks like it would be fun to dig/ride - probably not too much work to make it a decent set again. I haven't jumped for a couple of years either ... I thought they were going to tear that area out and build more apartments?

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    i would be down to get some trails up and going. i haven't rode in a couple years but have the itch to get back into it. hit me up on facebook.

    - Phil Hedges

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    I know this three has been silent for years. Anyone still riding up in Denton? Photographer here looking to do some photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhouse View Post
    I know this three has been silent for years. Anyone still riding up in Denton? Photographer here looking to do some photos.
    im working on some stuff south of ftw, also lots of good riders at alliance skate park

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfwraptor View Post
    im working on some stuff south of ftw, also lots of good riders at alliance skate park

    Im in Euless, so ether would be fine.

    Looking for dirt or street riders to get photos to add to my site, anyone interested can email me, I will pass along any photos I take to use for social media, just make sure to cite the photographer.

    Normally weekends work best.

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    when i get them nice and pretty i will let you know

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    Anybody still riding in Denton?

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    Started digging/rebuilding today. Everything was trashed

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    Before and After

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    Or after and before. My bad

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    looks like you have been busy! nice work!

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    These jumps are in Denton? Where at? And are they suitable to have an FR bike hit them, or just DJ/BMX bikes?

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    Alex, is that the Taylor Jumps in Burleson?

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    They could be done on an FR bike but it would be a heck of a pedal. No roll in yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Petti the Yeti View Post
    These jumps are in Denton? Where at? And are they suitable to have an FR bike hit them, or just DJ/BMX bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy Jim View Post
    Alex, is that the Taylor Jumps in Burleson?
    No these are in Denton

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    Wasn't real pleased with the flow and some kids came out jacked it up So just rebuilt today! Denton Tx. trails PICS!!!-photo-1.jpgDenton Tx. trails PICS!!!-photo-4.jpgDenton Tx. trails PICS!!!-photo-3.jpgDenton Tx. trails PICS!!!-photo-2.jpg

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    Damn you are a busy boy! Great work!

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    If I may make a friendly suggestion: Be strategic about where you get your dirt. Start a source pit away from the trail that is not very visible and use a wheelbarrow to move dirt. When you dig out of it, dig at an even depth all the way across, so it looks tidy and is not an ankle-twisting hazard. Cover up the source pit with logs, branches etc when not using.

    This is way better than digging from right next to the jump like a lot of people do. It creates a moon crater appearance and is potentially a hazard for someone riding around the jump. Authorities, hikers etc tend to be much more upset about unsightly holes than they are about mysterious "mounds."

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    Also, I know this is an ongoing debate in the bmx and mtb-DJ scenes, but building large filled-in tables or rollable/case-able doubles can be better for a spot for a number of reasons:

    1. Tables are way harder to knock down or mess with. Also, because less experienced riders are more able to ride them, they are less likely to mess with them.

    2. A lot more riders of your skill level will come out and help; on the flip side if you're only trying to attract hardcore riders they will tend to only help if they can make your doubles taller, steeper etc. So you will constantly have people trying to tweak your doubles--either to make them easier or to make them harder.

    3. You (and everyone else) will be more comfortable learning tricks and getting more height and distance. So, progression will increase. Not only that, but many riders will be more comfortable hitting a much larger jump when it is filled in or has a big case pad. (I can give you lots of examples of people hitting 10-16 foot tables that they never hit if they were true gaps).

    4. The larger cycling community--rec mtb xc'ers etc.--will be much more likely to be on your side (even if they don't actually ride the jumps) if you ever have a tear-down threat, or especially if you are in an area where you are supposed to be getting permission. Most parks have trail stewards for mtb trail systems. Tables, even if they are bigger (longer and taller) look less dangerous than smaller gap doubles (even if they're not).

    5. Even though it takes more dirt to fill in jump as a table or rollable double (camel-back), once you've done it, it's done, and the jump will last way longer for the reasons stated above. If there are lots of fallen trees around, and you're allowed to use a saw, you can fill in the gap pretty fast.

    My 2 cents (from experience). Although, don't get me wrong, I totally respect lots of trails and trail builders who do amazing spots with gap jumps. Just throwing out there the pluses for having a main line of tables/rollable doubles. ; )

    Good luck !



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    I would agree on the table, step up, step down type jumps... you will get more community support and less hassle from the "man' check out our spot https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cotta...96908407004866

    good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmc4130 View Post
    Also, I know this is an ongoing debate in the bmx and mtb-DJ scenes, but building large filled-in tables or rollable/case-able doubles can be better for a spot for a number of reasons:

    1. Tables are way harder to knock down or mess with. Also, because less experienced riders are more able to ride them, they are less likely to mess with them.

    2. A lot more riders of your skill level will come out and help; on the flip side if you're only trying to attract hardcore riders they will tend to only help if they can make your doubles taller, steeper etc. So you will constantly have people trying to tweak your doubles--either to make them easier or to make them harder.

    3. You (and everyone else) will be more comfortable learning tricks and getting more height and distance. So, progression will increase. Not only that, but many riders will be more comfortable hitting a much larger jump when it is filled in or has a big case pad. (I can give you lots of examples of people hitting 10-16 foot tables that they never hit if they were true gaps).

    4. The larger cycling community--rec mtb xc'ers etc.--will be much more likely to be on your side (even if they don't actually ride the jumps) if you ever have a tear-down threat, or especially if you are in an area where you are supposed to be getting permission. Most parks have trail stewards for mtb trail systems. Tables, even if they are bigger (longer and taller) look less dangerous than smaller gap doubles (even if they're not).

    5. Even though it takes more dirt to fill in jump as a table or rollable double (camel-back), once you've done it, it's done, and the jump will last way longer for the reasons stated above. If there are lots of fallen trees around, and you're allowed to use a saw, you can fill in the gap pretty fast.

    My 2 cents (from experience). Although, don't get me wrong, I totally respect lots of trails and trail builders who do amazing spots with gap jumps. Just throwing out there the pluses for having a main line of tables/rollable doubles. ; )

    Good luck !


    STOP the MADNESS...you're using way too much logic and make way too much sense. lol

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