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    what is this then?

    From the Turner website:

    -The 2010 Sea Otter Classic is just around the corner. Turner Bikes is in the middle of getting everything in order to insure a great trip.

    We are planning on unveiling something that may be quite unexpected, something with a lot less travel and under the right legs very fast. . . Although not for everyone, this bike is pushing the limits of its bike class in only the way that David Turner could imagine. Stop by our booth at the Sea Otter and get Davids take on why this bike is the bike for 2010!


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    nice pull OP

    guesses: carbon, HT, nitrous/29'r hybrid, or combination thereof

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    So if there was a question about whether or not to go to Sea Weasel, this post answered it.

    Anyone else going?

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    The Future is Here

    Finally! An off-shored, carbon recumbent!

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    DW Turner 4x frame?

    That would be sick.

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    cross bike - carbon
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    A 4X would be sweet. I saw one on ebay a few years ago and still kick myself for not buying it. A Turner 4X, a shred-gnar, extra burly 2010 RFX (please Dave please) and a DHR would be the best quiver EVAR!

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    Something tells me Renny is going to have some conflicting feelings regarding this bike.
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    Word on the street around here is it will be a DW nitrous want-a-be with the possibility of bigger than normal wheels. Should be interesting to see the photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cutthroat
    cross bike - carbon
    Bingo.......Cow Bell included No need to dismount for run-ups. It will rip. A DT cx bike will be very trick and I will want one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtn_man2
    Word on the street around here is it will be a DW nitrous want-a-be with the possibility of bigger than normal wheels. Should be interesting to see the photos.

    Oooohhhh man. That could be very interesting.
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    the way things are going makes me guess 2 inch travel dual personality CX/29er.

    btw, where the hell is the DHR?

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    RFX 29er

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    Spy Shot

    This was taken as DT and the neighborhood kids test the new prototype.

    http://www.instructables.com/id/Tall-Bike-Buidling/

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    Can't wait to see it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drtdiva
    Can't wait to see it!!
    Me too- I literally dreamt about it the night before I saw this post! It was quite elegent in my dream, so I expect nothing less from the finished product.

    That's not very nice of David to keep you in suspense btw.
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    Interesting for sure. Can´t wait to see what´s cooking

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles e
    Something tells me Renny is going to have some conflicting feelings regarding this bike.
    No sweat for a man of his calibre - he's been dealing with his conflicting feelings for Justin Timberlake for years

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles e
    That's not very nice of David to keep you in suspense btw.
    LOL!

    Can't wait to see whatever-it-is tomorrow.

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    i heard may 18th for the DHR

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles e
    Something tells me Renny is going to have some conflicting feelings regarding this bike.
    So Dave is gonna make a spitfire knock-off? Cool!

    Edit: Just got off the phone with DT. The rumor is confirmed. The new turner looks just like this, with a different paint scheme:

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    I guess 3" 650b DW link racer boy Flux/Nitrous.

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    650b flux
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    +1 for DHR news.

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    DHR 29er

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    HT 29'er (maybe carbon?) is my best guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krout
    +1 for DHR news.
    amen..

    give me something to keep hope alive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by big bear
    i heard may 18th for the DHR

    That would be the BEST birthday present EVER if Dave gave me one of those. It'd do nicely next to the Highline and 5 Spot.

    Pretty please...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boone
    I guess 3" 650b DW link racer boy Flux/Nitrous.
    I was thinking this too !

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    Can we start placing orders for the 3.5", 650B, carbon front-tri, DW Nitrous yet?

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    Does it have a tapered headtube?

    Quote Originally Posted by morgan1819
    Can we start placing orders for the 3.5", 650B, carbon front-tri, DW Nitrous yet?

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    So what´s going on? Any news yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sverre
    So what´s going on? Any news yet?
    It's an aluminum CX bike.

    I saw it this morning and didn't think to take a pic. I'll go back tomorrow, in between trips to the podium...
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    Give us that DWL short-travel 29er at last. Hell with the 650B and everything else, at least for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    It's an aluminum CX bike.

    I saw it this morning and didn't think to take a pic. I'll go back tomorrow, in between trips to the podium...
    Winner! I took a couple of pics today. I'll try and post up pics tonight (the Internet connection at the hotel sucks).
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    Okay, that is pretty damn cool too. Pics would be great!

    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    It's an aluminum CX bike.

    I saw it this morning and didn't think to take a pic. I'll go back tomorrow, in between trips to the podium...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough
    Winner! I took a couple of pics today. I'll try and post up pics tonight (the Internet connection at the hotel sucks).
    cool...though i will love to hear the "procore" homers whine about that outcome as many here will simply be unable to masturbate to a CX frame

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    Now with pictures...


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    Well, I'm sure it "rides like a Turner"....

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    ...so Dave's excuse for not making a hardtail is changing.
    Didn't he say that "Turner Suspension Bicycles" would not make a unsuspended frame.
    This one doesn't have enough rubber to add any cushion at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    cool...though i will love to hear the "procore" homers whine about that outcome as many here will simply be unable to masturbate to a CX frame
    I can confirm that this won't be a problem.


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    Wish I snatched up one of those hardtails in the past. Now I'm piecing together, in a lazy fashion, the parts to make a SS HT, possibly a rigid fork.

    The Cyclosys is kind of interesting, as it would make for a really interesting urban commuter for those of us in cities with horrific road surfaces. Maybe.

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    now that cx bike looks good to me....looking forward to picks of the (1x10?) full build.
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    Two questions spring to mind:

    When can i get one? What will it cost me?

    Being a belgian (yes we do CX very well thank you) I want something I can ride on the road and offroad in wintertime.

    I've been looking at a yeti cx for a while but this one just hits my special spot!

    I don't see a tab for a front derailleur?! Do you have to run it 1x10?

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    I was watching the World CX championship and it was a Belgian sweep so I see the interest. Great course too. I didn't find it very interesting till I started watching the races last year. This doesn't mean I don't want my short travel 29er though. The Titus needs to be replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidybeard
    I can confirm that this won't be a problem.
    i stand corrected though if you dont mind, please clarify if there is anything that you cannot masturbate to

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    Looks nice, but no disc tabs, no thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by erosive
    ...so Dave's excuse for not making a hardtail is changing.
    Didn't he say that "Turner Suspension Bicycles" would not make a unsuspended frame.
    This one doesn't have enough rubber to add any cushion at all.
    Dave likes to ride/race cross so he made one. We would all do the same if we could. btw cross is pretty flippin fun I might have to sell my old La Cruz and get a Turner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    Give us that DWL short-travel 29er at last. Hell with the 650B and everything else, at least for a while.
    It seems Giant will have you covered there in short order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    i stand corrected though if you dont mind, please clarify if there is anything that you cannot masturbate to
    I have yet to come across anything that cannot be come across.

    I thought you were <strike>retarded</strike> retired?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidybeard
    I have yet to come across anything that cannot be come across.

    I thought you were <strike>retarded</strike> retired?
    I got some good close up pics of the CX bike today. Dave's gunna be pissed though, cause I forgot to get one of the name - and he specifically asked me to.

    Gimme a minute to compress...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    I got some good close up pics of the CX bike today. Dave's gunna be pissed though, cause I forgot to get one of the name - and he specifically asked me to.

    Gimme a minute to compress...

    edit - with pics
    uh oh, you're so in trouble when dad gets home...

    never really followed cx but the bike looks pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    I forgot to get one of the name - and he specifically asked me to.
    Just the name? Like this? Sounded to me like a full CF bike was in the works for IB, but could have been my post-race delirium. DHR and RFX on track for this year as well?


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    Yawn not another CX bike. What a downer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikocycles
    Yawn not another CX bike. What a downer.
    Just to clarify. This is not a sapa frame, and Dave doesn't expect to sell shyte loads of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    This is not a sapa frame
    What is it then? Looks to be US made.

    Not exactly what I was hoping for either, but a nice surprise nonetheless. Too bad I finally caved and grabbed a Santa Cruz Stigmata last month (after thinking about it for two years) to replace my old Cannondale. Maybe I can flip it for what I paid when CX season nears.

    Speaking of, now the blurb on Turner's website makes more sense. Not just the "a lot less travel" part, but particularly "this bike is the bike for 2010!" CX racers are probably the only ones that don't already have their 2010 bikes in hand (with apologies to anyone waiting for a DW DHR).
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles e
    What is it then? Looks to be US made.

    Not exactly what I was hoping for either, but a nice surprise nonetheless. Too bad I finally caved and grabbed a Santa Cruz Stigmata last month (after thinking about it for two years) to replace my old Cannondale. Maybe I can flip it for what I paid when CX season nears.

    Speaking of, now the blurb on Turner's website makes more sense. Not just the "a lot less travel" part, but particularly "this bike is the bike for 2010!" CX racers are probably the only ones that don't already have their 2010 bikes in hand (with apologies to anyone waiting for a DW DHR).
    He didn't state specifically who's making it. It is handmade in California, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    It is handmade in California, though.
    I'm guessing not Ventana, due to the shaped tubing. A joint venture with a direct competitor seems unlikely anyway, so that probably rules out Intense too. Siren perhaps? Sycip does aluminum too, but at a higher price point. Regardless, it's a sharp looking bike!
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    Ellsworth made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    Just to clarify, Dave doesn't expect to sell shyte loads of them.
    Just like the highline, and the rfx.
    Big fukin deal. Easy to engineer; no pivots, not modeling, no nuttin. And he probably wants $2500 for it. f I wanted a fricken road bike, I'd buy a cervelo.
    Thanks a butt-load Dave. And still no DHR. The mass exodus begins shortly.
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    It's made by the same builder that did Kabush's Turner CX frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Just like the highline, and the rfx.
    Big fukin deal. Easy to engineer; no pivots, not modeling, no nuttin. And he probably wants $2500 for it. f I wanted a fricken road bike, I'd buy a cervelo.
    Thanks a butt-load Dave. And still no DHR. The mass exodus begins shortly.
    Wow, Renny. So bitter.

    The DHR will be out in a couple of months.

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    Last year Turner had a sweet looking RFX prototype to this year having a CX. I am not at all liking this trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough
    Wow, Renny. So bitter.

    The DHR will be out in a couple of months.
    Well yes, that's how I feel. He dumps the rfx, and the highline years past. Way past due on the dhr. So he re-tools for the dw push which is a big deal, but...... if he needs more engineering support, then he should hire it. He's falling behind, losing niche areas cause he can't compete $$$ wise. Time to go off shore for manufacturing, and stay in the game , IMO.
    I love his bussiness for what he's done [past tense]. and how he's supported it. But it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.
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    Looks pretty cool to me.

    Wonder what it'll be priced at? Wouldn't think much more than Stigmata.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Has there been any sightings of the new DHR?

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    I blew it and didn't get over to the SRAM compound, where DT said that Tyler Morland's DHR (closest thing to a pre-production frame) was stashed.

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    Is it the same frame Morland was riding last year or a new one that's based of the computer renderings from January?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Just like the highline, and the rfx.
    Big fukin deal. Easy to engineer; no pivots, not modeling, no nuttin. And he probably wants $2500 for it. f I wanted a fricken road bike, I'd buy a cervelo.
    Thanks a butt-load Dave. And still no DHR. The mass exodus begins shortly.
    Agreed. A CX frame is a tough pill to swallow when resources and the market size were the killers of the RFX. Glad to know this was also tying up development at Turner...

    I own a CX bike and think the sport is great... but this is a disappointing "release" from a company like Turner. Was this really a pet project or a market move?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWfreeride
    Agreed. A CX frame is a tough pill to swallow when resources and the market size were the killers of the RFX. Glad to know this was also tying up development at Turner...

    I own a CX bike and think the sport is great... but this is a disappointing "release" from a company like Turner. Was this really a pet project or a market move?
    Pet project. Limited production.

    I'm pretty sure that they're not just sitting on their azzes in Murrieta counting their money and congratulating themselves on the genius of betting the future on an aluminum 'cross frame. It sounds like the DHR will be getting to the shops in the next couple of months. So it's getting close. After that, I suspect DT's got another project or 2 up his sleeve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dromedargutten
    Is it the same frame Morland was riding last year or a new one that's based of the computer renderings from January?
    If I correctly remember what DT told me, it's the new design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWfreeride
    Agreed. A CX frame is a tough pill to swallow when resources and the market size were the killers of the RFX.
    And if this was also a cyclocross website and also somehow indicitive of the actual market, that would make sense. Unfortunately, the small cross-section on this website is not indicitive of the market, and there maybe were a few dozen people that wanted to buy the new RFX. I'm sure DT would need hundreds and hundreds of orders to make it pay off, and not enough people showed him "the money".
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    As SC is coming with a carbon V10 in two weeks, I´m guessing the DHR will be scrapped as well, haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    And if this was also a cyclocross website and also somehow indicitive of the actual market, that would make sense. Unfortunately, the small cross-section on this website is not indicitive of the market, and there maybe were a few dozen people that wanted to buy the new RFX. I'm sure DT would need hundreds and hundreds of orders to make it pay off, and not enough people showed him "the money".
    You are right, and I understand the actual barriers keeping the RFX from market, which ultimately have very little to do with the codevelopment of anything.

    I got excited about the chatter surrounding a 650b flux, or something similar. The CX frame was somewhat of a wet blanket. The pet project makes sense, an entry into the CX market does not, especially considering roadie/CX brand preferences and the presence of many high-end boutique frame builders catering to CX.

    I think, more than anything, I just let me anticipation build up for something... anything, other an a CX frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Well yes, that's how I feel. He dumps the rfx, and the highline years past. Way past due on the dhr. So he re-tools for the dw push which is a big deal, but...... if he needs more engineering support, then he should hire it. He's falling behind, losing niche areas cause he can't compete $$$ wise. Time to go off shore for manufacturing, and stay in the game , IMO.
    I love his bussiness for what he's done [past tense]. and how he's supported it. But it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.
    wow, sounds like somebody gets laid even less than i do, and trust me, thats saying a lot

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    Was hoping for an RFX 29er...sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWfreeride
    You are right, and I understand the actual barriers keeping the RFX from market, which ultimately have very little to do with the codevelopment of anything.

    I got excited about the chatter surrounding a 650b flux, or something similar. The CX frame was somewhat of a wet blanket. The pet project makes sense, an entry into the CX market does not, especially considering roadie/CX brand preferences and the presence of many high-end boutique frame builders catering to CX.

    I think, more than anything, I just let me anticipation build up for something... anything, other an a CX frame.
    It's definitely not what I expected, but I'd also bet it has a better payoff than the RFX. I think that we just have a big segment on this board that have absolutely no interest in cyclocross (like me), but that doesn't have anything to do with how viable it is or isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    wow, sounds like somebody gets laid even less than i do, and trust me, thats saying a lot

    are you open to offers?

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    I think you all are missing the point......Dave likes to Cross so he made one. I dig it .

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    it would be cool if he started making telemark skis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highroller
    it would be cool if he started making telemark skis.
    LOL!

    Just wondering though: has Turner made an official shift from the company name from Turner Suspension Bicycles to Turner Bikes?

    just curious...

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    It was My Birthday present! It's pretty "Cool" when your husband can make you a bike for your bday.
    It's made in USA by local frame builder, Russ Denny!
    It did not take away any love DT has for suspension.

    Just another excuse for another silly bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtdiva
    It was My Birthday present! It's pretty "Cool" when your husband can make you a bike for your bday.
    It's made in USA by local frame builder, Russ Denny!
    It did not take away any love DT has for suspension.

    Just another excuse for another silly bike.
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    And a great present it is. Now can you please see if he will make you* a shorter travel, racing-oriented 29er for your birthday next year? Thanks.

    * - And by "you", I mean us wagon wheel riding Homers.

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    So can we all e-mail DT informing him of our birthdays and birthday wishes too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    wow, sounds like somebody gets laid even less than i do, and trust me, thats saying a lot
    You're irrelevant without a blahg. Pipe down and reopen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Well yes, that's how I feel. He dumps the rfx, and the highline years past. Way past due on the dhr. So he re-tools for the dw push which is a big deal, but...... if he needs more engineering support, then he should hire it. He's falling behind, losing niche areas cause he can't compete $$$ wise. Time to go off shore for manufacturing, and stay in the game , IMO.
    I love his bussiness for what he's done [past tense]. and how he's supported it. But it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

    geez Rene, you've bought a couple used Turners in the past and now you're starting to sound like jaybo. You love his business model but have you supported it? Do you love banshee's business model? Will this be your first full retail bike purchase, or are you another of the many mtbr shillers that is getting a deal if you post up your new bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitz
    You're irrelevant without a blahg. Pipe down and reopen it.
    Plus I hear blahgers get laid more. Sounds like a win-win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough
    Plus I hear blahgers get laid more. Sounds like a win-win.
    Excuse me, Mr. Drippydick. If Fo would reopen the blahg, I'd make an conversation cartoon if I wanted to speak to you.

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    Two things: 1. It's a public forum. I'm pretty sure I can reply to any post I feel like. 2. The post was directed at Fo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck
    geez Rene, you've bought a couple used Turners in the past and now you're starting to sound like jaybo. You love his business model but have you supported it? Do you love banshee's business model? Will this be your first full retail bike purchase, or are you another of the many mtbr shillers that is getting a deal if you post up your new bike?
    Jeez Eric, you're really taking this personal. No, I have never purchased a new turner frame. I've purchased rockers,pivots and such from them, had them do my paint job. I haven't purchased a new frame or complete bike since 1997. No, I don't support banshee's model, I just want to try that frame, and if there were plenty of them on the used market, that is how I would purchase one if I could. And no, I definitely am not getting any deal for posting up the new ride.
    The primary, secondary, and tertiary reason I buy a buy any bike is for me, me, and me, not to support someone else's bussiness. Sorry if that sounds selfish to you. If DT doesn't make the bike I and others want to buy, we are going to go elsewhere. Is there something wrong with that? Yes, I think it's too bad that DT isn't making something that I'm attracted to, because I do like what I've been riding.
    Thanks for the Jaybo comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glitz
    Excuse me, Mr. Drippydick. If Fo would reopen the blahg, I'd make an conversation cartoon if I wanted to speak to you.
    I miss those cartoons. But not Fo, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Thanks for the Jaybo comparison.
    my bad, I should have said mtn.biker 123,

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    Nevermind... The lbs was pulling my leg!
    Last edited by bettes; 04-19-2010 at 12:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough
    Two things: 1. It's a public forum. I'm pretty sure I can reply to any post I feel like. 2. The post was directed at Fo.
    Actually, you're right, but I still miss those cartoons.

    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck
    geez Rene, you've bought a couple used Turners in the past and now you're starting to sound like jaybo. You love his business model but have you supported it? Do you love banshee's business model? Will this be your first full retail bike purchase, or are you another of the many mtbr shillers that is getting a deal if you post up your new bike?
    Shillers...on mtbr??? Were you in on any of those "good deals" from companies for select moderator types?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitz
    Were you in on any of those "good deals" from companies for select moderator types?
    yep, I got some socks
    otherwise this is the first time I've heard that such a program existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck
    yep, I got some socks
    otherwise this is the first time I've heard that such a program existed.
    Well, you made an accusation about renny, while it's not ok to make such a claim about you?

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