View Poll Results: Should Dave Turner build some tandems

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  • Yes - where do I sign?

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  • No - they are the devils spawn

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  1. #1
    falling off since 1975
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    Jan 2006

    Twin Burner - for the History Thread

    Seems that the sticky history thread is yet to be written, so following on from cactuscorns deadly accurate post on the Buner/Five Spot thread (Buner/Five Spot differences thread)here's the info on the Turner Twin Burner...

    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    only a few were made, not sure how many and possibly only 1
    Yep. Only the one was made.

    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    the tandam was built by ventana...
    DT confirmed recently that it was actually built by Sportech in SoCal.

    It's a Burner back end with the with longer, solid, rocker plates of the 3.6" travel Burner.

    The front end has extra strength from the diagonal bracing tube and some large gussetts.

    It has a couple of oddities.

    The diagonal bracing tube on tandems is normally one long piece of metal. On the Twin Burner it's been fabricated out of two halves. Don't know why - Sportech got hold of a long enough tube for the top tube.

    The gear/rear brake cable runs along the top of the top-tube have cable-stops to run outers past the captains seat post. Someone welded them on the wrong way round !?

    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    for dt and his ex if i have my facts straight.
    Yes, which explains the odd sizing. It's an 18" front/14" rear.

    The bike was built as a demo-model for Interbike 1996, so it was loaded up with parts from sponsors of the Turner team at the time, Mr Dirt USD forks - with an 11mm thru axle, Kore Elite stem/seatposts and 22" bars(!), Cook Bros e-cranks. Real chainrings, including a 52-tooth big ring! Non sponsor stuff included Magura HS-33 hydraulic brakes, Hugi rear hub, XTR mechs, XT RF+ shifter pods, and some awful and uncomfortable Tioga saddles.

    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    it now resides overseas. lucky bastards.
    Yep. And here's how...

    In December 1996 Singletrack journo and my tandem partner Chipps Chippendale - then working for Mountain Biking UK and MTB Pro who were well into Turners - was over in Colorado visiting DT. DT mentioned it might have to be put up for sale to help company cashflow. I heard about this and gave Dave a call. I'd always thought Turners looked like nice bikes since a friend came back from a trip to the US with a 95 Burner. Chipps and I wanted a tandem to do some MTB orienteering event son, and this was too good an opportunity to pass up.

    We haggled over a price.It arrived in the UK just after Xmas '96.

    That first year we raced it DH (things were a little less technical back then) and XC, and also slapped a BOB trailer on the back and dragged it MTB orienteeering. We put risers on there, some early 6" travel Boxxers - raising the legs in the crown as much as possible so that they don't upset the handling.

    The new forks needed a new wheel, and the Maguras were woefully inadequate - we could sinter the brake pads and still not slow down - so we put a 180mm Hope disc brake on the front.

    It destroyed two rear rims, and the cassette sprockets were eating their way into the Hugi rear hub, so we put a Hope hub with steel cassette body on the back, and used one of their adapters mount a 180mm rear disc brake. I did ask DT about the brake forces snapping the brake boss and upgrading to a disc brake specific rear seatstay, but he reckoned it didn't need it.

    The whole thing is a testament to the strength and longevity of Turners, and the wisdom of bushings over bearings. We've had crashes - towing a trailer - that have left us on the ground with the trailer wheel spinning like something out of a comedy. It's laughed them off. The forces going through the drive side have mangled hubs, and we've flatted two DH rims.It all still runs straight and true.

    Although pestered to build more DT has never done so. I think this is a shame. Unlike some show demo tandems, those from Intense for example, this is a real world capable machine.

    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    lucky bastards.
    Damn Right.

    Even better I was lucky enough to meet DT when he came over to the UK for a bike show in '97.

    Singletrack Magazine Issue 10 featured the bike for their Bike Porn article.

    I'll need to get some time with a scanner to get any pictures together of the original build, and I'll get some pictures of it's current build this weekend.

  2. #2
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    I voted yes, not that I have ever desired a tandem but hey, if there was enough demand then why not have a few more Turners out there??

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