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    Turner or Titus

    I've narrowed my choice of a new steed down to either a Turner or a Titus. The Titus boys say any frame they have will dominate a Turner.

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    of course they do and id do the same if i were them. as a consumer, id take a turner, and i have, 4 times. i hope ya find the right bike for you. what frames ya lookin at?
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    Another thing to keep in mind is that Titus post-Chris Cocalis has now raised the prices of their Taiwanese made frames to the point where those guys on that board can't argue the savings anymore. Basically, they are in domestically built pricing, but with Taiwanese manufacture.

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    Give us specific models and we can help you. The Switchblade and SuperMoto are cool. I did not care for the El Guapo on my demo. Never ridden a MotoLite or an RX.

    The Titus boys are seriously confused. But then again we knew that- their on Titus's.
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    that was my final choice too...titus racerx vs flux...in the end i made my choice on extra cush of the flux, and the unbeatable customer service at turner.

    being in arizona, there are a lot of titus bikes around...and people love them. stories of cs and ride quality pre-chris-bail were very positive. as for recent changes in the company...i just don't know...

    i do have to say, i am completely satisfied with my flux...it is everything i wanted in a bike and more. i love it!
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    Titus has a very loyal following just like Turner.
    Their bikes are nice looking and great riding, also like Turner.
    I won't get into the where they're made thing. Consider that a personal decision.
    I won't get into the HL vs SSP debate. If the TNT review thread does not convince you it's a non-issue, no rational arguement will.

    The general feedback on the differences between the two brands in similar-class models is: The Titus tend to feel more racy, nimble accelerative. The Turners have a more stable, bring-it-on feel. One will make you feel more gas-it-n-go! the other will make you search for more challenging technical terrain. The magnitude of these differences is influenced by your terrain, and predisposition towards one or the other.

    Take some time to clearly define what you think you want out of your next bike now and down the line. Then we can help you compare the personalities between the similar models.

    If you're seriously considering a Turner you should also budget for a red couch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    Titus has a very loyal following just like Turner.
    Their bikes are nice looking and great riding, also like Turner.
    I won't get into the where they're made thing. Consider that a personal decision.
    I won't get into the HL vs SSP debate. If the TNT review thread does not convince you it's a non-issue, no rational arguement will.

    The general feedback on the differences between the two brands in similar-class models is: The Titus tend to feel more racy, nimble accelerative. The Turners have a more stable, bring-it-on feel. One will make you feel more gas-it-n-go! the other will make you search for more challenging technical terrain. The magnitude of these differences is influenced by your terrain, and predisposition towards one or the other.

    Take some time to clearly define what you think you want out of your next bike now and down the line. Then we can help you compare the personalities between the similar models.



    If you're seriously considering a Turner you should also budget for a red couch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    Titus has a very loyal following just like Turner.
    Their bikes are nice looking and great riding, also like Turner.
    I won't get into the where they're made thing. Consider that a personal decision.
    I won't get into the HL vs SSP debate. If the TNT review thread does not convince you it's a non-issue, no rational arguement will.

    The general feedback on the differences between the two brands in similar-class models is: The Titus tend to feel more racy, nimble accelerative. The Turners have a more stable, bring-it-on feel. One will make you feel more gas-it-n-go! the other will make you search for more challenging technical terrain. The magnitude of these differences is influenced by your terrain, and predisposition towards one or the other.

    Take some time to clearly define what you think you want out of your next bike now and down the line. Then we can help you compare the personalities between the similar models.

    If you're seriously considering a Turner you should also budget for a red couch.
    Wow, some objectivity......that was a good expanation, Zilla. Nice restraint too!!

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    I too originally had it narrowed down to a Titus RX and Turner Flux. After riding both, the Flux blew me away. Both fit great geometry wise but the feel is what separates the two apart. Titus bikes are too stiff feeling for me (IMO), I need squish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Another thing to keep in mind is that Titus post-Chris Cocalis has now raised the prices of their Taiwanese made frames to the point where those guys on that board can't argue the savings anymore. Basically, they are in domestically built pricing, but with Taiwanese manufacture.
    I am not trying to be antagonistic and I am ignorant about manufacturing processes but I do wonder why you consider this a strong argument - If I think about cars I would much rather have a car made in Asia Pacific rather than America. Why do you believe American made bike frames are so much better? I bought my Turner cos of how it rides and the CS not because of where it was built.

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    Since I just made the switch from a 2005 Moto-lite to the 2006 RFX...I'll chime in.

    The moto-lite is a little more XC'ish than the RFX, but still pretty strong. On my Moto-lite, I switched the chainstays to the FR ones for better tire clearance...but still have to use the normal seatstays. Using a 2.35" nevegal on the rear, I would still have a little buzz on the seatstay of the Moto-lite when taking hard corners. This has definitely been remedied with the RFX since it'll supposedly take 2.7" tires. While my RFX is slightly heavier than the Moto-lite....it is still 31.34lbs with pedals, so that's not too bad. The strength of the frame and tire clearance are definitely plusses and worth the trade-off on the slight weight difference.

    I have never ridden a 5-spot to compare to the Moto-lite....so sorry I can't give those comparisons. I personally don't like the looks of the El Guapo and would definitely prefer a 2006 RFX compared to it. I also am not too hot on the 2007 RFX either as it appears to be a 6-spot trail bike instead of a light duty FR bike. But those are just my opinions.

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    At this level there are only going to be subtle difference in the ride as both make great bikes. Carefully check the fit and go with what you really want. If you post up which bikes you're looking at, the pundits can dissect and ANALize further.
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    That's all I'm saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilks
    I am not trying to be antagonistic and I am ignorant about manufacturing processes but I do wonder why you consider this a strong argument - If I think about cars I would much rather have a car made in Asia Pacific rather than America. Why do you believe American made bike frames are so much better? I bought my Turner cos of how it rides and the CS not because of where it was built.
    Not a fan of american automotive myself, but the build of the American bikes in this category can't be denied.

    Someone here put it:

    "Manufacturers are going overseas to make their bikes and the quality of their laborforce is not their #1 reason for going"

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Rock



    That's all I'm saying.

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    Both are great

    Pick which one fits you best and buy it. If neither fits you get a semi-custom Ventana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by una velocità
    The Titus boys say any frame they have will dominate a Turner.
    Got any stones? Fess up little wee boy... who made that comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by una velocità
    I've narrowed my choice of a new steed down to either a Turner or a Titus. The Titus boys say any frame they have will dominate a Turner.
    I'm not Gonzo because...ooops, wrong thread. Wait a minute, you're not A48PStrike; are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    As for T's comment... isn't he helpful???
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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Got any stones? Fess up little wee boy... who made that comment?

    Nobody!

    But it's stil fun to take the bait, and spit it out.

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    I have owned both, loved both and would buy both again. Does that help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    The general feedback on the differences between the two brands in similar-class models is: The Titus tend to feel more racy, nimble accelerative. The Turners have a more stable, bring-it-on feel. One will make you feel more gas-it-n-go! the other will make you search for more challenging technical terrain. The magnitude of these differences is influenced by your terrain, and predisposition towards one or the other.

    Take some time to clearly define what you think you want out of your next bike now and down the line. Then we can help you compare the personalities between the similar models.

    If you're seriously considering a Turner you should also budget for a red couch.
    This perfectly sums it up. Both are great, but the Titus is less plush and snappier in its rear suspension geometry and has a bit quicker handling with it's steeper head-tube. You have to decide which ride you like better. Personally, I am not really baised between the brands, I have one Turner and two Titus bikes, but to me, with Chris Coacolis having left Titus, I would no longer buy one of their bikes. In my book Chris is Titus, the same as Dave Turner is Turner bikes. When the soul leaves, the rest will follow.
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    But don't count Titus out. Pat Hus is there to pick up the reigns.

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    Homer, or not-Homer....that's what it boils down to.....either way, make sure when you order your Tightus, you get gayass red....

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    Ride em' both and pick the one that fits you best. I know you're probably obsessing over the decision to pick exactly the right bike, but honestly you really can't go wrong with either. Especially with the Titus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokermtb
    you get gayass red....
    red's for poofta's

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    O.K. I abjure on my "That's all I'm saying" post.

    You people fell hook, line & sinker for this troll post. The motivation was on a local board triple-dog dare and... mission accomplished.

    Suckers,
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    P.S. I'm only reporting the facts and have no part in this charade

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Rock
    O.K. I abjure on my "That's all I'm saying" post.

    You people fell hook, line & sinker for this troll post. The motivation was on a local board triple-dog dare and... mission accomplished.

    Suckers,
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    P.S. I'm only reporting the facts and have no part in this charade
    ...is the titus forum really that boring?
    how sad for you guys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    But don't count Titus out. Pat Hus is there to pick up the reigns.

    A couple of things for you all to chew on about Titus.......

    Most of the Titus dealers here in AZ have or are droping Titus due to severe lack of support.

    One of the Titus reps took a major deal out from under the now EX Titus Dealer in Flagstaff at Interbike.

    A very close friend of mine used to race for Titus and recieved absolutely NO support (mechanical, parts, entry fee coverage, travel assistance etc.) from them during that time (that person no longer wears their Titus jersey).

    Another friend used to work for Titus and walked away from them due to the treatment he recieved from them after being there since the begining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by una velocità
    I've narrowed my choice of a new steed down to either a Turner or a Titus. The Titus boys say any frame they have will dominate a Turner.
    wow some of you actually bit on this, sad.

    die troll

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    Reading Skillz Anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by dHarriet
    ...is the titus forum really that boring?
    how sad for you guys!

    Can you not read? He said they did it on thier LOCAL BOARD! Get it... not the Titus baord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salimoneus
    wow some of you actually bit on this, sad.
    Bite or respond?
    Should we ignore every basic question just in case? No. Better to give the benifit of the doubt till we know more. That's how the forum stays helpful for new ppl who don't know the protocol.

    Quote Originally Posted by D-Rock
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    That's all I'm saying.
    ...
    I abjure on my "That's all I'm saying" post.

    You people fell hook, line & sinker for this troll post. The motivation was on a local board triple-dog dare and... mission accomplished.

    Suckers,
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    P.S. I'm only reporting the facts and have no part in this charade

    So by knowing and saying nothing for almost a day, It's hard not view your role of inaction as troll-helpful if for nothing else the sake of watching and then saying Na-nah. Not the best thing for one's own credibility D. Esp since you didn't identify the troll or the board. Sort of like watching your friend throw a rock through a window and not have the nads to either speak up or throw your own rock. (heh,heh break another dude) So going forward how do we seperate D-Rock from Troll assistant?

    While a few of you are trying like heck to read into this thread as a trainwreck I view it as a pretty good success in that most of the responses were either helpful or interogative...not negative. There's always a few exceptions but I'm pretty sure the overall tone of this thread is as good or better than the responses you'd find anywhere else.

    The alias bandits, trolls and their helpful little imps who claim they laugh w/o participation always seem to have more effect elsewhere anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    So by knowing and saying nothing for almost a day, It's hard not view your role of inaction as troll-helpful if for nothing else the sake of watching and then saying Na-nah. Not the best thing for one's own credibility D. Esp since you didn't identify the troll or the board. Sort of like watching your friend throw a rock through a window and not have the nads to either speak up or throw your own rock. (heh,heh break another dude) So going forward how do we seperate D-Rock from Troll assistant?
    Maybe you missed this part.

    Quote Originally Posted by D-Rock
    I'm only reporting the facts and have no part in this charade

    I only know the troll from the local board and frankly I let it go because I was hoping the Homers would rip him a new a$$. Too bad that didn't happen.

    I tipped the Homers off yesterday that it was a troll, so don't blame me for incouraging this thread.

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    I guess I fail to see how this differs from any other X vs Y thread that we will generally give the benefit of the doubt to?

    I triple-dog-dare someone to ask what tires to buy on the wheels board. So brazen.
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    Having owned both I'd say Turner is the clear winner because Turner repalcement RD hangers are less expensive than those of Titus.
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    Here's one for the 29er board-

    "Rigid SS vs. Geared FS"

    or

    "Are 29ers for gravel paths only?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    I guess I fail to see how this differs from any other X vs Y thread that we will generally give the benefit of the doubt to?

    I triple-dog-dare someone to ask what tires to buy on the wheels board. So brazen.
    this post has no resemblance to a X vs Y thread, many of which offer some good insight and feedback although the subjects are truly beat to death by now

    this post is the equivalent of walking into a Kung-Fu dojo and saying "hey, i was just over at the Judo shop across the street, and they tell me that their weakest fighter could make your best guy cry like a woman. is that true, are you guys complete pansies?"

    i also know his claim to be false, many Titus riders with some saddle time on Turners give them high complements, as they are both awesome bikes
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Having owned both I'd say Turner is the clear winner because Turner repalcement RD hangers are less expensive than those of Titus.
    Valid point. Fo's even on a Turner (well not yet anyways...). When's the grand unveiling ceremony? Is the Titus Forum invited?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Mountain
    Valid point. Fo's even on a Turner (well not yet anyways...). When's the grand unveiling ceremony? Is the Titus Forum invited?
    Depends how many more times he decides to change his order.
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    I have owned numerous Titus bikes and numerous Turner bikes. I currently own a Racer X 100 and a Motolite. I used to own a 5 spot and a flux. Some thoughts . . .They are both great bike manufacturers. The quality and customer service is great from both. I would have to say that Turner has better CS - he is amazing in taking care of customers. But again - Titus provides great CS. As far as ride quality it really comes down to preference. Currently, I like quick handling bikes that carve up tight singletrack. Due to my preferences I prefer Titus bikes. They are quick handling, rail through corners and the yare very efficient pedalers. The Flux and the 5 Spot are slower handling than the RX100 and 5 spot. The flux was more plush than the Racer X 100 but definitely was not as quick. The 5 spot is a little plusher than the ML. But again, it is slower in its handling. The ML is an amazing bike. It corners incredibly well, climbs great, and it is a great descender. The 5 spot is also a great climber and descender, but the ML corners better than the 5 spot. The ML also rides great in the 4" mode. The Turners have this incredible balanced feel that is hard to describe. In regards to the Turner suspension, I have spoken with many riders who have ridden the horst link turners and the TNT Turners and they have indicated their is a small difference when the bike is braking. I stress small difference. Overall, both are great bike manufacturers. If I could I would own one of each. I am looking at 6 inch travel bikes and the choice will be either an RFX or an El Guapo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by una velocità
    I've narrowed my choice of a new steed down to either a Turner or a Titus. The Titus boys say any frame they have will dominate a Turner.

    Wow, OP, you got someone to respond to your troll--guess that makes you the BSD (big swinging d*ck).

    Now your life has meaning . . . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by D-Rock
    O.K. I abjure on my "That's all I'm saying" post.

    You people fell hook, line & sinker for this troll post. The motivation was on a local board triple-dog dare and... mission accomplished.

    Suckers,
    D.

    P.S. I'm only reporting the facts and have no part in this charade

    Triple dog dare--I haven't heard that since--ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salimoneus
    this post is the equivalent of walking into a Kung-Fu dojo and saying "blah, blah, blah..."
    Thanks for validating our responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salimoneus
    this post has no resemblance to a X vs Y thread, many of which offer some good insight and feedback although the subjects are truly beat to death by now

    this post is the equivalent of walking into a Kung-Fu dojo and saying "hey, i was just over at the Judo shop across the street, and they tell me that their weakest fighter could make your best guy cry like a woman. is that true, are you guys complete pansies?"

    i also know his claim to be false, many Titus riders with some saddle time on Turners give them high complements, as they are both awesome bikes
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    Titus Customer Service

    Over the years I've always had great customer service from Titus, that said I have not owned one for a couple of years.

    However, I recently ordered a custom Ti Motolite with custom geometry. I've continued to get great customer service as far as communication regarding the status of the frame and while going through small changes in the geometry etc.

    Proof once again will be in the pudding if a problem arises down the road, but thus far the communication has been good.

    I'm fully expecting that I will now need to go through a dealer for small parts, where before I could just call and that is a slight bummer. However it's one of those things I've expected going into this one.
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