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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! The Turner That Ate Tokyo...

    OMFG, what could this mean????

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    Bikezilla... meet BIKEZILLA!!! The newest FrankenTurner....





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    You have too much spare time.
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    I was gonna say:
    "This could mean you have way too much time on your hands."

    or you've become a mad professor
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    Tooooooooo much time But funny never the less!

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    gazzaloddi 3.0 , I love nokians.

    that thing will never work. not enough mud clearance.

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    uuuuuhhhh...... is this what they call "cabin fever"???
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    HAHA, that looks awesome man!! :-)
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    It's alive.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    The newest FrankenTurner....
    Are those Pack stays?

    Edit: Your other thread answered this question.

    A few more though:
    -Is it actually rideable with that level of clearance?
    -Can you use the granny ring?
    -What about the typical offset on the Pug's wheels? Were you able to re-dish, or is that a new wheel?

    A Highline would surely offer even more clearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by e<i>o
    You have too much spare time.
    Seriously.

    I wonder what the downtube clearance is at full compression.

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    Very nice work!

    I know that Michelin 2.8 fits into the Pack/RFX swingarm,someone posted it before but I didn't know that full wide Gazzas fits!

    Viewing this pictures makes me wanna buy some real tires again.
    What is the max.recomented tiresize for a Fox 36, 2.8 inch?
    Thanks for the inspiriation,Tscheezy.

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    Sooo, I just went out and measured my 1999 RFX seatstay width and it is not wide enough for the 3.0's. It's nowhere near 4+" wide, although the chainstays ARE wide enough. If I ordered a replacement 6 Pack / RFX rear triangle that is what I'd get? And it would bolt up to my front triangle pivots?
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    just a recommendation: take the o-ring off of the green knob on top and use that as your travel indicator. The o-ring is a pain in the arse and serves no purpose. If you have extra clearance, you can also shave the 29er spacers to give you more travel. Also recommend 15cc of redrum-5wt (50-50mix) under the negative air spring for more progressive feel. These are just things that helped me customize our shop 29er demo.

    Sweet rig!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by e<i>o
    You have too much spare time.
    Sooo.... what's your point?

    Quote Originally Posted by demo_slug
    that thing will never work. not enough mud clearance.
    Such a defeatist attitude, mon frer. You've owned a Titus too long.

    No granny. I left the 3 smallest cogs off the cassette (the loose ones) and used spacers to move the cassette out. It's a 1x6 right now. 118mm e-type bb spaced about 4mm to the drive side with spacers. I could gain a lot more clearance if I tried, but that's what I had laying around. The chain clears the tire with no issues using this setup.

    The tire just barely buzzes the f der stop at full compression. I added 5 psi to the shock. Problem solved. It's a snow bike. I'm not going huge on this thing. The rear wheel is something I built from parts of other wheels. Since going to the Mav fork I had the old rigid fork's front wheel sitting there so I unlaced it and put it on an XT with some spare spokes with no wacky dish. It's just a regular wheel with a wide rim.

    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikerx
    If I ordered a replacement 6 Pack / RFX rear triangle that is what I'd get? And it would bolt up to my front triangle pivots?
    Yup. Another damn cool thing about Turner stuff: cross-generational compatability. You can see the clearance in the pics below. BTW- 37.4 bone-crushing pounds as currently set up.



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    Ha ha ha, welcome to the world with minimal tire clearance! Just kidding, that is superb.

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    That is so awesome!!!!!!!

    Last night I was looking at the two Spot rear triangles that I have and I was thinking I should pop the Endo off the Pugsley's front tire and see what the Marge looks like in there. If the Marge clears you could *probably* squeeze something like a 2.7 Timberwolf in the Spot traingle. I'll check it after work later tonight...

    BTW, where'd you get a pushed DHX-A?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK Chris
    BTW, where'd you get a pushed DHX-A?
    It's not what you know, or even who you know. It's what sticker sheets have.

    Seriously though, why didn't you get a 6-Pack rear triangle? Having a variety of parts at your disposal is definitely the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    It's not what you know, or even who you know. It's what sticker sheets have.

    Seriously though, why didn't you get a 6-Pack rear triangle? Having a variety of parts at your disposal is definitely the way to go.
    The Push DHXa was a goof, I saw your frankenFox thread.

    As far as the rear my thinking was the Spack and making the Spot uber XC. Maybe I should have gone with a Pack rear. I was thinking that the other day too. But from looking at the 5-Pack threads and your tests/graphs/charts with the Spot rear, I think I'll be good to go.

    The Marge's are just plain badass - the ultimate snowbike.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm Be Quick. Don't Hurry.

    Funny bike. But in your haste to put FrankenTurner together, you reversed the rear triangle. Those seat stays are obviously chain stays.
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    Not only is it a Turner snow/sand bike, it's Turner's first 29er.........
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    What the heck are you people talking about??

    Well, anyway, this thing KICKS ASS! If you have a Pugs on order, cancel it. Tell DT on Monday that you want a 6-Pack rear triangle and call up Larry for the other shiny bits. It rides just like a Turner, but goes ANYWHERE. Freaking fun.

    But enough yapping, let's get to the bike porn.







    Another clearance shot:



    Spacers to move the cranks out, and the chain-tire clearance (in the second largest cog in back- the largest works great too):





    The spacers inside the cassette spider to move it out:



    They're baaaaaaack....

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    Quote Originally Posted by EndoRando
    Not only is it a Turner snow/sand bike, it's Turner's first 29er.........
    Damn straight. SCOOP!!
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    That's incredibly Awesome TS

    ...once again you proove you're the undisputed King of the mod.

    I doubt DT will be answering the phone on Monday, it'll be kinda hard to reach while laying on the floor laughing his arse off.
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    Veeeery cool TS, Will you be bringing that with you next month?

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    Before I order it ....

    TS, do you think my Remolino rims will fit at 82mm? I'm guessing they will but you have a better perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikerx
    TS, do you think my Remolino rims will fit at 82mm?
    Won't work. The narrowest part of the yoke back behind the tire is 74mm wide. The rim won't fit. The Large Marge/Gazzaloddi is probably the biggest combo that will fit.
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    oh man what got into you tscheezy? that's a Mav Uh Wreck fork up front? your boredom is a dangerous thing. I'd suggest a custom CrMo rigid fork, a chi-chi version of the Karate Monkey thing. then you could replace that rear damper with a Push'd bar of billet Alu.

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    Gonz, I'm crestfallen! You always tell us we weight-weenie our bikes out too much. Well, I finally get my Spot up to 37 pounds with wheels so heavy Josh Bender would blanch , and all I get from you is "well, ya focked up again."

    I think I'll go cry now.
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    LOL - outstanding.

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    Cool

    pun intended. Very cool parts mixing. I was starting to wonder if the RFX had too much tire clearance, and now I see it doesn't!

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    Knowing how wide an endomorph track is, that bear track looks even bigger than I expected.

    How does that rear track compare to that of an average Kodiak brown?
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    My thoughts exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by xjbebop
    uuuuuhhhh...... is this what they call "cabin fever"???
    You took the words right out of my mouth.

    Philip, is there enough clearance on that back tire to allow air to flow through?
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    TS - that's just beautiful! It's almost enough to make me want the snow to stick around for another couple of months NOT!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Gonz, I'm crestfallen! You always tell us we weight-weenie our bikes out too much. Well, I finally get my Spot up to 37 pounds with wheels so heavy Josh Bender would blanch , and all I get from you is "well, ya focked up again."

    I think I'll go cry now.
    I thought maybe I'd ignore the obvious interesting addition of snow rims/tires, which must make for some nice riding.

    nice photo of that 2-stegosaurus-armor peak next to the shoreline. pretty startling contrast between snow at elevation and warmer valley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Well, I finally get my Spot up to 37 pounds with wheels so heavy Josh Bender would blanch , and all I get from you is "well, ya focked up again."
    Don't forget to add in an extra 10 or more pounds for the truing stand and spoke wrenches you are going to have to carry in your backpack at all times. Even more if you if you bring a couple of refreshing adult beverages to drain while truing.
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    Some grainy pics from today (set the camera up goofy)





    Here is my next drivetrain mod. I cut the dropout interface off one der hanger and JB Welded it to another hanger. This will move the rear der out. I was having some problems getting the low der stop set correctly with the cassette sitting so far outboard. I added one cog back and that basically fixed the issue, but I still want to push the thing as far out as possible and at some point be able to access the granny ring too. If I can do that I will consider the project totally conquered.



    Edit: here is the new, improved dropout. It moves the der outboard a bit, which cleared up whatever der weirdness I was experiencing. I went back to 6 cogs also for mucho clearance. No rest until I can run two rings up front as well. I am doing this as a service to all of Homerdom (those that live near sand or snow anyway) and so that I don't have to buy Barny a Pugs next winter .

    Here's the product. It pretty much negated the weird issues I was having. I went back to 6 cogs for mucho clearance and now the thing shifts as well as a stock setup. Sweet. I am going to keep messing with the clearance until I can run two rings up front. I'm a determined man.





    Note the black der limit screw in the last pic above. That is actually a b-tension screw out of another Sram der I am using since the stock der limit screw is too short.
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    Thanks, Tcheezy, you've made my week. Mad professoring at its finest...
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    You sure that's not sacreligious?

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    The Phat-Spot continues to impress. Yesterday I summited our local haus berg, and the upper section of the road had long sections that looked like this:



    I steered the Phat-Spot into one of the ATV tire ruts in the soft, spring snow and just motored up the road. No problem. Of course my front tire is running 5.5psi and the rear has 6psi in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    I steered the Phat-Spot into one of the ATV tire ruts in the soft, spring snow and just motored up the road. No problem. Of course my front tire is running 5.5psi and the rear has 6psi in it.
    Wow, I'm impressed! I spent 10h in total in snowmobile tracks this weekend and had to walk up most of the hills, even though the tracks are packed hard.

    Guess there's no luck in fitting Gazza 3.0's into my 5-Spot rear? I think I need to tinker a bit til' next winter...
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    Went on a loooong ski up a river today, and rode the bikes in part way again for access. Here is my friend, John, on the Phat-Spot. I skate skied and John did classic.





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    Hey TS-
    Looks like great day for skiing! My bro-inlaw is there laying the fiber optics, it sounds like a big job. BTW- lovin the Phat Spot!

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    Late winter in Kodiak....

    I was wondering what folks were doing between season out on Kodiak. Is that little bear track from this year??

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    What are we doing? Well, yer lookin' at it. Did a road ride today too. Sea kayaking is still a month out for me. Snowboarding is still good and getting better. Now that the days are long we gravitate more towards snow sports. Once the snow is gone we will pay more attention to other stuff. I do ride all year though.

    Some bears are waking up. We have about 4 near town now that I know of. Those tracks in the pic are of a sow and cub transiting my trails one day. The snow fell the night before so they probably were there in the morning, and I rode in the afternoon.
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    This winter's improvements:

    I ditched the outermost 3 cassette cogs again, and spaced the remaining cassette spider outward as far as possible. This helps the cassette to line up with the chainrings which now sit farther outboard. The chain taps on the driveside rear seat stay pivot when in the smallest cog, but otherwise the drivetrain works great. I still have my double wide der hanger which allows the der to feed the cassette cogs normally. Sweet.





    The chain clearance when in the 22/24 combo:



    Large Marge and Nokian Gazzaloddi 3.0 tire clearance:





    I can now run "normal" gearing, including shifting into the granny ring. I got a 126mm spindle bottom bracket (ES-51) and when combined with some old XT cranks, the cranks sit far enough outboard to allow it all to come to gether. Sweet.









    I did the experiments on my own Sultan, but I am going to migrate this setup to Barny's 5-Spot and skip the rather annoying Rohloff setup. I put that together recently too, but we both prefer derailleurs.
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    Barny's Spot's current dress:











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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Barny's Spot's current dress:
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    Very nice work! Makes my 2.7's look like XC race-day slicks!
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    christ on a stick those things look fun
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