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    Cool-blue Rhythm Titanium Testicle

    [SIZE=5]UGI on Steroids!!![/SIZE]



    I called Avy and spoke with Craig. He and I discussed my application in great detail (7.75x2.25) . We talked about valving, performance, and even how the linkage position change of a longer shock could affect the stroke feel at different points in the travel. He asked about my skill level, weight, and even height...as he explained that taller folk tend to get back farther and thus put more leverage on the suspension.



    It feels quite a bit lighter than my 800# coil equipped DHX I'll weigh them later. This is a 700# spring.

    I ordered it late Friday and it hit my desk before lunch Tuesday!
    If Customer service is any indication of performance this shock is going to spank rabid monkies!

    Just in time for the long weekend.
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    Nice! Give it a good beating this weekend, and let us know what you think. I considered the Avy long and hard at one point, and went with the Push instead.

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    Most excellent! This calls for a new set of pics, doesn't it?
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    Nice Zilla, so the shock will lift the rear a tad and give you around 7" travel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Nice Zilla, so the shock will lift the rear a tad and give you around 7" travel?
    ...unless he swaps out the seat stay for the spot version. Should come relatively close to maintaining geometry with that mod.


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    [QUOTE=.........He asked about my skill level..... [/QUOTE]

    Did you tell him that you're a poseur?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Did you tell him that you're a poseur?
    Well he was ordering a "race tuned" shock with a Ti spring, no need to say anything right?


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    That's the plan. Spot stays and near 7" travel, according to Tscheezy's Party Pack

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Did you tell him that you're a poseur?
    No, but I did mention your name...that's when he recommended the Ti.
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    I just had a moment of UGI titanium jealousy, but I cured it by making a phone call an ordering a titanium 20 tooth chainring for my crankset. Not quite the same level of satisfaction as 'Zilla's purchase, but it will have to do.
    Someone else's turn: someone buy something!
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    Nice, nice, nice .. nothing like some Ti to mix in with the bling.

    I scored a 7.875x2.25 DHX-c uber cheap that's gonna spend some time on the Spack.

    Its 0 out right now, so I'm looking forward to ride reports and pics...
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    ...'Zilla, I'm looking forward to your feedback. I have been contemplating a second Avy for just this setup. Just found out they are planning to begin construction on a gravity-fed extreme bike park less than 7 miles from my house. I need to start planning


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
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    No, but I did mention your name...
    I'm suprised he sold you the shock if that's the case! Craig didn't quite like my application or my approach to our conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    ..taller folk tend to get back farther and thus put more leverage on the suspension.
    I'd never thought about shock performance in that way. Seems to make sense. As if bike design, riding style, component selection, terrain, subjective experience, etc. don't cloud things enough now we need to think about how rider height affects leverage on the suspension! (I should say a relatively noob such as myself never considered height in this way).

    What do you say we reset the clock and start the whole TNT/Horst Link debate all over again?

    [SIZE=1](kidding)[/SIZE]


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    hey BZ -

    good to see you FINALLY got some bling...your bikes are just so PLAIN!
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    I hear's ya Clyde...what's a poseur to do?
    Just goes to show you how performance oriented race-tuning is. One day I hope to have the skills to appreciate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    they are planning to begin construction on a gravity-fed extreme bike park less than 7 miles from my house.
    Lucky devil, you got a guest room?

    Hey Renny, I was kidding.
    I either cought him on a good day or you really must have had your instagade carma in full flow. Craig couldn't have been more informative and helpful. He even mentioned some guy with custom rockers... that's when I mentioned you ... but he was talking about someone in New England.
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    After the RFX, I'm on UGI hiatus. Though that Ti spring looks really tasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
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    Hey Renny, I was kidding.
    I either cought him on a good day or you really must have had your instagade carma in full flow. Craig couldn't have been more informative and helpful. He even mentioned some guy with custom rockers... that's when I mentioned you ... but he was talking about someone in New England.
    I know you were kidding Alex; I was too.
    I thought I was being as neutral as possible during our e-mail conversation. Perhaps if I had had a verbal conversation with Craig, the outcome would have been different.
    BTW, check your e-mail!
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    It's an East Coast thang baby, you wouldn't understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    I thought I was being as neutral as possible during our e-mail conversation. Perhaps if I had had a verbal conversation with Craig, the outcome would have been different.
    Naaah that's how we flow out this way. I only sugar up my posts for mass consumption.

    Dh, bling? this ain't bling... now if I can get the spring Ti-nitride treated it'll be spanky gold...now that would be BLING! Ideas anyone?
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    That Avy looks sweet.. I'll definitely wait for the ride reports!

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    Very nice Zilla! I can't wait to hear about how it rides.
    I 'm just wondering, if I do the same mod, would Push be able to extend the stroke of my DHX-C to 2.25, and have the correct i2i (while doing the upgrade of course), or do I have to go shopping? I thought El-C mentioned Darren did it for his new FRX when he sent it in.

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    Bikezilla, Thanks for resetting the place back on an even keel
    Enjoy the Shock,but bear in mind you are committing a cardinal sin in changing two things at once while setting up suspension
    Stay off the brakes

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    Whew!!! I'm glad to see this post is about rear shocks and not those new fake nuts you can get for your dog. I was concerned when I saw the title.

    Nice Zilla! Can't wait to hear how it rides. A rear shock is among several upgrades I am considering for my RFX.
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    Hey BZ, are you sure that you won't experience metal-on metal at full compression with that extra stroke? I put a nice dent in the seatstay bridge of my '02 RFX using a 7.5x2.25 with 5" rockers, but only after a few weeks of riding and a trip to Moab.
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    FM, I'm not sure but posted experiences sound promising.
    A few ppl have tried the 7.875x2.25 shock apparently w/o linkage collisions. Bear in mind they were also running the shorter 5 Spot seatstays and the Pack is somewhat different than the classic RFX. This is a 7.75x2.25 BTW so the longer I2I should more than make up for the increase in stroke.

    I will check the frame motion with the 5S SS, without the shock, at an equivalant fully compressed I2I (5.5") and see if the linkage or rear wheel makes contact.
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    hey septic.

    i asked darren about this just this past friday. no go. he had a few spares layin around and el c grabbed em all up. done and gone.
    No, I'm NOT back!

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