My Anthem is going on the selling block this autumn to help fund a Czar purchase. I'm on my third frame (second warranty frame) for a top tube seat tube junction frame failure.
Just hope DT gets the XXL production done this winter as currently projected.
You broke the linkage, probably by excessive bottoming. If you keep breaking frames, you need to figure out why. Are you pushing them beyond their design usage? Are you very heavy? Do you need more air in your shock?
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You broke the linkage, probably by excessive bottoming. If you keep breaking frames, you need to figure out why. Are you pushing them beyond their design usage? Are you very heavy? Do you need more air in your shock?
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This is really poor advice. I've broken more than 30 frames. None of them were abused. Sometimes companies go to market without fully testing their stuff.
Here's a partial tally
15) first generation GT idrives. Well documented seat mast problem
2) Giant AC's. Well documented asymmetrical chainstay problem
2) Intense tracers - well documented seat mast problem
6) kestrel rubicons - well documented delamination problem
I'm 235 and my air pressure is >250lbs to stop it from bottoming out. This shock has nowhere nearly enough damping for heavier riders so it just blows through travel. Plus, I don't get to 20% sag until just after I bury the gauge at 250psi.
This is for my '14 Trance, I didn't catch if yours was an Anthem or Trance. I have a Monarch Plus sitting here ready to go on but I might try something else. This shock definitely ruins the entire experience. On the bright side I would rather break a link than the actual frame unless I'm missing something in the picture.
There are a few Giant frame breakage threads where the breakage appears to not be related to the bike setup or rider. I can attest that my frame breakages were all within the normal riding of an XC bike.
Yeah, my bike is 5 months old and roughly 550 miles. I get that things happen. Just annoyed at this point. I should have listened to iheartbicycles for the last two years. "Get A Turner!"
Ouch!! That's all. With every design, people will find the design limits because we all want a bike that weighs nothing, costs nothing and last forever. That's why so many bikes have to be overly engineered - someone will find a way to push it beyond its limits. Also, all materials will fatigue through its lifetime. Imagine if a bike had to be no-failures like a bridge. Phew!!!
I've cracked two 5 spot frames. The awesome thing about turner, each time I was on a new frame within a week or so without bs. 3rd one lasted 5 years and I upgraded to 2011 dw link. Still rallying that . I was a nose tackle in college. Good bikes from turner. Even better customer service.
I've cracked two 5 spot frames. The awesome thing about turner, each time I was on a new frame within a week or so without bs. 3rd one lasted 5 years and I upgraded to 2011 dw link. Still rallying that . I was a nose tackle in college. Good bikes from turner. Even better customer service.
Don't forget that it's possible to buy a $25 volume spacer kit for Fox shocks that allows more/less air volume to modify the shocks end-stroke ramp-up.
Us bigger guys may also need to have our shocks tuned by Push (or similar) to get appropriate performance.
I fully agree. I definitely would have gone the volume reducer route if the shock had any damping but it sucks so bad. Damping is one reason I'm considering ditching the Monarch and going with something with an even wider range of adjustability.
On top of that I'm thinking about dropping down to around 195lbs from 235. I have muscle to lose to get there and for me that requires the worst kind of diet. It's diet plus tons of low intensity cardio. I hate it but maybe I can make my bike my cardio vs running for miles on end on a treadmill at the gym. I've been thinking about getting rid of some of the bulk for a while and I'm curious to see how it affects not only my climbing but my overall speed even slightly technical downhill. The bike should be more reliable for sure.
Im not bagging on anyones weight, but 235 lbs hammering on a bike is a tall order in my opinion. I'll go as far as saying I'd be damn amazed if things didn't break.
That's part of the reason I got a trance when an Anthem would do for my type of riding. Never more than a 1-2' drop, I tend to avoid powering through tough sections and instead use the gears to sit and spin since it causes knee pain for me.
I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that the Trance's frame and components would be more suited for my weight considering tame riding style.
I've thought about dropping 30lbs but I seriously have little to no fat to lose, 10lbs at most. I would have to give up some semi hard earned muscle. I would have no issue giving up the muscle if I had someone to ride with and I knew I would be doing this more often. As of now I ride by myself most of the time and I take what I can get even if it means on the pavement to get a movie at the Redbox a mile away. I have a feeling a 30lb drop would not only be beneficial for the bikes longevity but it might make me quicker in the technical stuff. I use my legs a lot even with full suspension. My Specialized HRXC which is a pretty light weight, light duty frame survived for 5-6 years.
Some people are rougher than others on bikes. I am 6', 230 pounds and built like a linebacker. I manage to virtually never break parts, whether on my downhill bike, trail bike, or road bike. My 10 year old son is 120 pounds can break stuff on his downhill bike in a heartbeat.
I asked Turner to ship the bike by the 9th, they did it arrived on the 11th as I was leaving for Downieville on the 12th to celebrate my birthday on the 13th. It was a great birthday on the trail and I'm in love with this bike!
(Wifey added the flare for photo shoot)
Good times on my new Sultan. First ride the Downieville downhill route. Best birthday present!
I asked Turner to ship the bike by the 9th, they did it arrived on the 11th as I was leaving for Downieville on the 12th to celebrate my birthday on the 13th. It was a great birthday on the trail and I'm in love with this bike!
(Wifey added the flare for photo shoot)
First ride the Downieville downhill route. Best birthday present!
Flexy design due to the elevated seat stay and lack of stiffening linkage. This design allows the entire rear wheel to act like a lever against the shock, putting much more wear on the shock and hardware. I sent a few shocks off to Push when I worked in a shop from those style bikes. Not even getting into how the bike will stiffen over bumps uphill when you are in a small ring and try to break traction, the lateral stiffness of that design is simply far below the turners, with their IGUS bushing setup and linkage rear ends. It wouldn't be my first choice for a big heavy rider.
Typically, for a rider that breaks stuff and is real hard on equipment, you need to buy a bike strong enough, which means when everyone else is on "XC race bikes", you need a "trail bike", when everyone else is on "trail bikes", you need an "AM bike", when everyone else is on AM bikes", you need a "freeride bike", and so on. If you are just unlucky or bought a few frames with known flaws, get something you know is quality and going to have the support that Turner does. Hard to go wrong there.
If you are a breaker of frames, as I am, it doesn't matter what brand or material you run, you'll break them on the same timescale. Two years on the same frame is my limit. YMMV, of course.
I'm 165 pounds and keep my wheels on the ground, but I pedal hard, fwiw.
I'm pleasantly surprised on how well my 09 Sultan frame ( my first Turner ) has held up to my mediocre attempts at jumping and my many spills I put it through because it inspired the confidence to ride it hard and this is a xc / trail bike frame ! I'm no lightweight either !
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