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    Time pedal & Cleat Q?

    A Quick question for you Time users:

    I just put new cleats on my SIDIs and have discovered I unclip much too easily and unintentionally. I can even rock my foot L-R and clip out w/o rotating my heel . Any idea what is going on here?

    I put the cleats in the long release arrangement (R-cleat on left shoe) just as the ones they were replacing.

    Whazzzup with this? My Time Control-Z pedals were so steady and secure before.
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    Sole interference

    If I was to hazzard a guess I would say that the sole of the Sidi is contacting the pedal body and therefore not giving you a secure clip in.

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    As Momentus said, nothing that can't be fixed with a sharp knife -- just match the cutout on your Sidis to that of the shoes the previously worked well, but......

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    try to remove the gravity dropper....that should do it

    oh yeah, and what they said

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    Thanks Fo. that fixed it.

    Maybe I should have mentioned I've been using these shoes and these pedals together for over a year without this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    Thanks Fo. that fixed it.

    Maybe I should have mentioned I've been using these shoes and these pedals together for over a year without this problem.

    Mabye they need to break in? I've heard that cleats can come uncilpped easier as well as harder when new......... I think???

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    Zilla,
    Any chance the pedal retaining bars are bent?

    I recently replaced cleats on my ATAC XS. Didn't notice problems prior but things were sloppy afterwards - similar to what you are describing. Took a closer look at the pedals and several of the retaining bars were bent. Only thing I could piece together is that the pedal and cleat "wore together" so that I didn't notice it before but the problem became evident with new cleats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Zilla,
    Any chance the pedal retaining bars are bent?

    I recently replaced cleats on my ATAC XS. Didn't notice problems prior but things were sloppy afterwards - similar to what you are describing. Took a closer look at the pedals and several of the retaining bars were bent. Only thing I could piece together is that the pedal and cleat "wore together" so that I didn't notice it before but the problem became evident with new cleats.
    Just a thought...
    I just went through the same darn thing. Ended up buying two new sets of pedals, which was a drag, though the old, sloppy ones were both 2 long seasons old. I guess that I've got some spare cleats now, since they came with the pedals!

    Side question/semi-hijack for Time users. Anybody know how to realign the cleats just a little bit after being in a hurry and getting ONE OF FOUR not quite right on two new sets of shoes and ending up with a hot knee? The cleats make such a deep impression on the sole that they seem almost impossible to move slightly, unless I grind off some of the cleat's bottom protusions that made the deep dent into the shoe sole.

    Mebbe I'll post this on the pedal (or whatever) forum, but I figured that the Homers would know!
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    Squeak, Cos, Tnx. I casually glanced at them looking for obvious damage but I'll throw a more critical eye on them. Geeze I hope they aren't toast already, they're less than a year old, but do get banged on the rocks hard and often.
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    shoes?

    I always seem to wear the sole of the shoe out.Little bar indentations under the cleats.
    So what happens with new cleats are pedals that are really hard to get out of yet loose feeling when clipped in.I wish someone made a stainless steel plate to fit under the cleats.
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    Zilla, I'm experiencing the exact same phenomenon. Premature ejection with a lot of undesirable weird float. Figured it was old cleats and would go way with new one. Nope, problem still persists. Were you able to find a solution? If so, do tell. I'm this close to pulling the trigger on some Shimano SPDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    I always seem to wear the sole of the shoe out.Little bar indentations under the cleats.
    So what happens with new cleats are pedals that are really hard to get out of yet loose feeling when clipped in.I wish someone made a stainless steel plate to fit under the cleats.

    There were two people on ebay with products like this, one called sole savers and the other beater blockers. Both were designed in response to eggbeater issues like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbz
    There were two people on ebay with products like this, one called sole savers and the other beater blockers. Both were designed in response to eggbeater issues like this.
    that's what I'm looking for.I couldn't find the link,if you see it can you post it
    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgB
    that's what I'm looking for.I couldn't find the link,if you see it can you post it
    thanks
    Haven't seen them on ebay for a while now. Why not just cut out a piece of Stainless steel just smaller than your sole recess, about 1mm thickness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashTheDOG
    ... Were you able to find a solution? If so, do tell. I'm this close to pulling the trigger on some Shimano SPDs.
    Mine still have the problem. Looking at the retention bars I can see they are worn flat on the tops. I wonder how the undersides look. That is what would be holding the cleats in place.

    I will try the same shoes and cleats on my Atacs tonight. If they're tight then the Control-Z pedals are worn out...that would suck big time since they're just over a year old. That would make it pretty obvious why CBros choose to use softer, faster wearing cleats.

    Still, if this were the case, I'd be rather suprised I've haven't heard about it before now.
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    Interesting, I got a bunch of Times off ebay due to the stellar reviews here. Ended up not liking the weird float sensation on at least half of the four pairs. As you can see from my sig, I am done with them.

    Eggs suit me better, I feel more in the pedal instead of on top of it. The Times don't seem to have any better construction than the Eggs....basically the same bearing/spindle set up.

    I'm willing to retry Shimano.
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    Strange, I always felt the Times were more positively engaged than my CBs

    I really liked my Cbro pedals (EB/Mallets) but I was going through 2 pairs of cleats a season. I also had a lot of rock induced ejections. I also broke the retention bars several times. To their credit CBros has got fast and friendly CS, and always took care of me ASAP.

    I didn't get a chance to check my ATACs yet.
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    Update: It's gotta be da shooze

    I tried my fairly new ATAC's with the same new cleats on my 2yr old SIDIs and they were doing pretty much the same thing. Didn't feel very secure, unclipped unexpectedly yattat... My SIDIs soles very, very worn. I pretty much can't even walk or rocks for fear of sliding right off. So I just got a new pair @20% off from Performance...the only ppl who stock size 50eur.

    Problem solved. The ATACs feel snappy, secure and hold the cleat more tightly.

    If you're having similar problems with new cleats on your times, try a different pair of shoes. I'll try my control-Zs with the new shoes too. I think I can pretty much stick with the ATACs, they're much lighter and I don't really need all that platform.
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    Good to hear the problem is solved.

    I just saw this thread, thought to be strange, I have always had the exact opposite problem. It is harder to get unclipped when I put new cleats in my shoes. I use right on right and left on left for cleat placement.

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