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    Spring.....A time for rebirth

    Spring thaw & no new snow = Bike Mode

    5 new additions to my Pack. Care to venture a guess what they are?
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    How does the Rocco ride after Darren's mods? Care to update your initial review?

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    Pushed Pike?

    Is that a Push decal on that fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalEpic
    Is that a Push decal on that fork?

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    yes indeed.

    But the Pike's been PUSH'd since last summer so that doesn't count.
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    Since it is as heavy as it is, and it will have similar parts for the Push upgrade (Rocco and DHX), why would someone pick a Push'd Rocco over a Push'd DHX? Hypothetically speaking that is - as I just don't see a reason to get the Rocco. What am I missing?



    Edit: is Francis ever going to fix the out of sequence posting? It grows very tiresome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy
    How does the Rocco ride after Darren's mods? Care to update your initial review?
    Rocco is still bone-stock. I have 3 rides on it now and my aforementioned opinions still hold. Nice shock. Smoother than a stock DHX but pales in comparison to a PUSH'd DHX. But it's easier to bottom than a stock DHX & is relatively heavy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy
    Since it is as heavy as it is, and it will have similar parts for the Push upgrade (Rocco and DHX), why would someone pick a Push'd Rocco over a Push'd DHX? Hypothetically speaking that is - as I just don't see a reason to get the Rocco. What am I missing?
    The PUSH DHX kit is fantastic. I think people will be very pleased when it's released (and my sources tell me it'll be any day now).

    I haven't ridden a PUSH'd Rocco so I can't comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    New tires.
    Yup. Big Betty 2.4 in the front. Nobby Nic 2.25 in the rear. Thus far I'm impressed
    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    GD post.
    Si senor. Today was the maiden voyage
    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Well, we can rule out a proper A-C fork
    Nothing else out there that's grabbing me in the fork world aside from the full on 66 coil but it's too heavy for my tastes and I like travel adjust. The light/SL doesn't do it for me. Still holding out for the RS 35 (although I reserve the right to change my mind at any time)
    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Faux carbon cable rub patch (Davide would be proud!)
    Ack !!!!! The shame. Thankfully I haven't stooped that low although I do have the carbon headset spacers courtsey of Mr. Mettler. Almost saves a gram over the alloy version
    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Did you have that Ventana high stack crown for a while?
    Very well done. Thought that one would give the Homers fits. Picked up the 7mm Ventana CK crown race a little while back but didn't have much time on it until recently. Slackens the HA another half degree or so which helps.
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    Well, we can rule out a proper A-C fork.

    Did you have that Ventana high stack crown for a while? GD post. Faux carbon cable rub patch (Davide would be proud!). New tires. New chain lube?
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    push'd pike

    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    yes indeed.

    But the Pike's been PUSH'd since last summer so that doesn't count.
    Nice! Gotta love the white! How does the pike compare to the stock pike? Is it worth the upgrade?
    It's all cycle-logical to me.

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    #1 Gravity dropper
    #2 WTB Lazer seat
    #3 Rear tyre
    #4 Set of new wheel's maybe?
    #5 The Rocco

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    Rocco
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Spring thaw & no new snow = Bike Mode

    5 new additions to my Pack. Care to venture a guess what they are?
    Rocco
    GD
    Wheels
    Tires
    Ventana 7mm Crownrace-spacer
    seatpost clamp
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    Is your GD at full extension in the picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Still holding out for the Fox 35 (although I reserve the right to change my mind at any time)
    Picked up the 7mm Ventana CK crown race a little while back but didn't have much time on it until recently. Slackens the HA another half degree or so which helps.
    I am planning on picking a GD up soon, I'm just hoping I can get the seat low enough with it.

    Also, did you mean RS 35 or is Fox coming out with a new fork?

    Does your Pike with 7mm race get you a 68 deg HA with the Pack? I am wanting to replace my AM1 with a Pike 454 or RS 35, but I am leaning towards the pike cause of the weight.
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    Yes. The GD is at full extension. It's a 375mm multiposition.

    I meant to say RS 35. Thanks. It's been corrected.

    I haven't measured the HA with the new spacer but it should be at 68 or touch below. It sat at 68.5 with the standard CK crown.
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    What's that thing weigh now, 40lbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAPRO
    seatpost clamp
    Good eyes Ramon. I hadn't even thought of that. Yes, I ditched my Salsa QR for bolt-thru clamp. No need for a QR with the Dropper.
    Wheels are not recently new. Larry laced my CK hubs to DT 5.1s last fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    What's that thing weigh now, 40lbs?
    If you need to taunt me then please do so via IM



    I think it weighs about as much as your Nomad but I don't have the 6.1 rims or the Boxxer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nimai
    Nice! Gotta love the white! How does the pike compare to the stock pike? Is it worth the upgrade?
    It's betterer

    Mine's an early PUSH proto. Rock Shox mods have come a long ways since The Darren did mine. Bribing him with cheap beer doesn't seem to be working as well as it once did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAPRO
    Hmmm! So what am I missing?

    PUSH Maxle, maybe?
    Everything's been spotted

    Schwalbe Big Betty Gooey 2.4 front
    Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.25 triple tread compound rear
    GD post
    Rocco
    7mm CK Ventana spacer
    and the seatpost clamp
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Good eyes Ramon. I hadn't even thought of that. Yes, I ditched my Salsa QR for bolt-thru clamp. No need for a QR with the Dropper.
    Wheels are not recently new. Larry laced my CK hubs to DT 5.1s last fall.
    Hmmm! So what am I missing?

    PUSH Maxle,

    Ti bolt kit,

    or XO trigger shifters?
    Last edited by SCUBAPRO; 03-04-2006 at 07:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Bribing him with cheap beer doesn't seem to be working as well as it once did.
    Try cheaperer beer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Try cheaperer beer?
    LOL. Where does one go from Corona Light which is Derwood's beer of choice.

    During my schooling years in Ann Arbor we were able to get kegs of Red, White & Blue beer for $25. The good old days.
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    PUSH Maxle,
    For Squeak? No Chance.

    Where does one go from Corona Light which is Derwood's beer of choice
    Here we go with the Corona Light....you and Scuba must IM each other with glee over that one. For a recap, Corona (not light) = Wife, Derwood = Bud (the King)....and last time I checked you were getting scolded by your wife to stop drinking my Bud so that you could drive home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    For Squeak? No Chance.
    Are you my new personal cyber stalker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Schwalbe Big Betty Gooey 2.4 front
    Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.25 triple tread compound rear
    Hey Squeak, any thoughts on the Nobby Nic in the rear vs. the Big Betty? I ask because I just order a pair of the BB's, and thought I might want to return one in favor of the NN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashTheDOG
    Hey Squeak, any thoughts on the Nobby Nic in the rear vs. the Big Betty? I ask because I just order a pair of the BB's, and thought I might want to return one in favor of the NN.
    BB is big & aggressive. We weighed several and they varied from 900-930gm. The sidewalls are very sturdy and I was easily able to run 28 psi with tubes and not flat. Traction, handling & braking are all excellent but the gooey rubber & weight doesn't make for a very fast rolling tire. It's similar to a Nevegal 2.35 stick-e in that regards. I'll use one in the rear for our more abusive trails but for general riding I may just keep it up front.

    I was impressed with my first ride on the 2.25 Nic today. The sidewalls are thinner and more akin to the Kenda. Weighs around 600gm which is light for a big tire. Rolling resistance is excellent and traction/braking were good but not on par with the Big Betty which was expected.

    I'll be keeping the F BB 2.4/ R NN 2.25 for now. There's also a 2.4 NN in the works.

    Here are some pics for comparison purposes. I should have taken one with some Kendas. The 2.4 BB is similar in size to a 2.5 Kenda. The 2.25 NN is slighlty smaller than a 2.35 Kenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Are you my new personal cyber stalker?
    I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat
    I am.
    No cowbell?
    I'm still not talking to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    No cowbell?
    I'm still not talking to you.
    Just passing through...nothing to see here...

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    I'm a little surprised looking at the rather wide spacing of the NN knobs that it rolls that well. You would expect to get vibrated to death on a hard surface. Does the Nic come in any interesting compounds?

    Not even sure why I am asking. I have about 10k miles worth of rubber to wear off a huge backlog of current tires first.
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    Damn, you guys beat me to the carbon tape-Davide reference, and everything else for that matter. Guess that's what happens when you miss a day...
    The red couch has moved from Alaska to Florida...

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    Nic uses Schwalbe's "triple tread compound." From Schwalbe:

    The Schwalbe technicians positioned the three rubber compounds exactly where their strengths are needed. The centre tread uses Off-road Racing Compound that is characterised by good traction and durability. Maximum Grip Compound is used on the tyre shoulders, supplying the necessary cornering grip to the outer lugs and where its ‘sticky’ characteristics give more grip in wet conditions and fast cornering. Beneath both of the tread compounds lies a layer of the easy rolling Qualifier Compound. "It would not have been possible to optimise these three features with just one rubber mixture", explained Hachmeyer


    They go on to comment that it makes an ideal racing front tire when paired with a Racing Ralph in the rear. I only have one ride with it as a rear and am thus far impressed.

    And the tape you see is good old fashioned Home Depot black electrical tape. I'll leave faux carbon where it belongs: on Davide's bike and my headset spacers
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    I thought maybe you were getting a completely new ride based on a post a week or so ago. I also thought you were going to be a GD hold-out (future revokation of good homer status ) based on your 'ride up then down' comments!

    Did Darren really get a Nomad (or was that an inside joke)? Would LOVE to buy his tricked out Pack

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac
    I thought maybe you were getting a completely new ride based on a post a week or so ago. I also thought you were going to be a GD hold-out (future revokation of good homer status ) based on your 'ride up then down' comments!

    Did Darren really get a Nomad (or was that an inside joke)? Would LOVE to buy his tricked out Pack
    I am getting a new frame but am not ditching the Pack. Ti 29er built by Kent Eriksen in Steamboat. Should be ready in 2 weeks (famous last words).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Spring thaw & no new snow = Bike Mode

    5 new additions to my Pack. Care to venture a guess what they are?
    I'll venture a guess.....

    Air in the tires.

    Last time I saw your bike is was abandoned at Mtn High with two flat tires.

    You didn't miss much on the slopes this weekend. I got two good days in (Fri & Sat) but it was definitely spring skiing all the sudden, even at Steamboat which has had huge snow all year.

    I'm walking the fine line between skiing/biking depending on the temps.

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    I found what I was after:

    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    The kits (Rocco/DHX) are similar. The DHX is just a lot lighter.

    Darren

    I have to say that Nomad does look good.

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    Hey Squeak what is the story with the shraeder valve on the Rocco? Is that just a function of setting sag, or does it affect the compression damping as well? Also, what is the range on the compression adjustment? Can you dial that sucker up, so that it can take the bigger hits without bottoming ?

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    Rocco

    what is the story with the shraeder valve on the Rocco
    It's just there to fill the shock with gas. It's not an adjustment mechansim.

    Also, what is the range on the compression adjustment? Can you dial that sucker up, so that it can take the bigger hits without bottoming
    The range is pretty good stock, however turning up the compression to help with bottoming isn't a good setup due to the fact that the external adjustment is more for low/mid speed. If you need more compression for hits on this shock, it's a main shim stack sort-o-thing.

    Darren

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    Hey Squeak what is the story with the shraeder valve on the Rocco?
    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    It's just there to fill the shock with gas. It's not an adjustment mechansim.
    The range is pretty good stock, however turning up the compression to help with bottoming isn't a good setup due to the fact that the external adjustment is more for low/mid speed. If you need more compression for hits on this shock, it's a main shim stack sort-o-thing.
    What he said.

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