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    Propedal R (w/AVA) vs. RP3 on Burner?

    With all this talk of upgrading to an RP3, I'm wondering if I will notice a difference on my setup. I have a Burner with XR rockers and weigh about 220lbs.

    If you compare a propedal float R (with AVA sleeve) ($free) vs. RP3 ($160), is it worth the upgrade?

    Push mine instead (same price as stock RP3)? Get a pushed RP3 from Push ($250)?

    thnx

    Berardino

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    Can't comment on the AVA but I had a Propedal R and put an RP3 on my Burner (with XR rockers). The damping and overall performance is about the same, however, having the 3-position lever is really nice. I had my Float R pushed back when they first started doing it, and while it was nice, it wasn't practical to adjust it on the trail for certain conditions.

    With the RP3 I normally run the bike in the middle setting, flip it to firm if I'm doing a lot of climbing, and soft for downhill or really rocky stuff. Being able to just throw the lever and not worry about how many clicks I have makes all the difference.

    BTW, I'm about 230lbs for comparison.

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    jjcarr,

    Thanks for the info, do you notice that big of a difference with your RP3 between the 3 settings? Also is your RP3 pushed?

    BTW just curious but what pressure are you running your shock at? are you running the R and RP3 at the same pressures?

    Thanks,

    Berardino

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    FWI-

    I posted a comparison last year sometime between the Burner and the Flux. Part of this was also having some shock problems, which I resolved when I figured out that it's better to oil the chamber instead of greasing it.

    I also found I used a large amount of grease inside the air chamber on a PP Float R. This shock worked great on the Burner, bad on the Flux. I removed the grease (a really large volume) and it opened the shock up. The Burner favors reduced chamber volumes, using grease in this case.

    Long story short conclusion:
    Burner works better with smaller chambered air shocks
    Flux with larger

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    The differences between the settings is noticable but not huge. I'm told the Push treatment exagerates the differences. I notice it enought that I can tell what position I'm in when riding. Mine is not Pushed, and I run about 220-230psi in it. However keep in mind it doesn't have the AVA sleave.

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    Thanks jjcarr,

    I've been running my float R at 250-260 to get proper sag (per fox manual), I'll try it at a lower setting.

    thnx

    Berardino

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    Quote Originally Posted by baratta930
    Thanks jjcarr,

    I've been running my float R at 250-260 to get proper sag (per fox manual), I'll try it at a lower setting.

    thnx

    Berardino
    If you have the AVA sleave you might need 250 psi. For bigger guys, I've found the AVA is actually a liability. Forces you to run too high pressure to get propper sag without bottoming. Plus the Propedal lets you run slightly lower pressure.

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    Hey, I noticed on your profile you're in Austin. We're hitting City Park at 10am today (Saturday). Come join us and ride on the RP3 yourself.

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    jjcarr,

    I'll go back to the regular sleeve at lower pressure before buying an RP3 and try that. With the AVA at high pressure (260ish), it's a little harsh on chatter (ok on bigger hits).

    I haven't riden CP yet, I took a bad endo about a year ago and had a bleeding kidney for a few days, since then I've been a bit of a chicken The funny part is that I got hurt at walnut creek, which is pretty easy in general. The folks in the ER said they get a few people a day on weekends from people getting hurt there. When I was there after my little "incident" 3 other people came in, two had broken bones!!!

    So lately, I've been mostly riding BCGB and Muleshoe

    Hope your ride was fun ...

    Berardino

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