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    Post your 2010 RFX

    Since the new RFX is on extended vacation lets make ourselves feel good about our "placeholder bikes" we've been riding...Spots with big forks and tires are welcome, i don't need to see your Bullit.

    Disclamer- i am in no way trying to show DT how many of us are on 160-170 bikes-or telling him he's made the wrong choice- Turner Suspension Bicycles is not my company! This was, truely though, a placeholder bike. So was the 09 Reign X that replaced the 07 RFX.

    Happy friday!

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    2009 placeholder Reign X
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    That looks like my FIrebird. Another Placeholder type bike.

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    I was waiting for 2010 rfx, too. I'm so close to pulling the trigger on one of the Reigns now.

    nothing witty here...

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    Sweet Pony, good luck getting a reign, you will need to buy a complete bike as the frames are sold out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by krispy@go-ride.com
    Sweet Pony, good luck getting a reign, you will need to buy a complete bike as the frames are sold out!

    I was just checking the Go-Ride website, man that was fast. Guess I may be riding the IH for another summer...
    nothing witty here...

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    I've got a medium Reign X frame that I still haven't ridden. I'll sell it to you for $2900.

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    Yeti ASR-7

    The Yeti ASR-7 is filling that market also. Check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley
    I've got a medium Reign X frame that I still haven't ridden. I'll sell it to you for $2900.
    Hhahahahaha!!!!
    I've got an X small, $2899
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    ha, my first thought when I saw the other RFX thread was the same as yours, Krispy, I already have one! crappy pic but it's all I got.


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    Here's my british racing green placeholder.
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    This:
    "It looks flexy"

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    Placeholder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley
    I've got a medium Reign X frame that I still haven't ridden. I'll sell it to you for $2900.


    no way i would ever pay that much for an AM frame, not even a turner...
    nothing witty here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Placeholder?
    No.
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    Bike looks great but cheapened by the bash ring. Need to get one from Taiwan. Kthxbai.

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    RFX no, capable yes....

    sweet ride kris. this replaced my 08 spot and 08 rfx.


    but kris you know what i'm waiting for
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    Krispy,
    How do you like the Reign compared to your 07 RFX?


    Quote Originally Posted by krispy@go-ride.com
    Since the new RFX is on extended vacation lets make ourselves feel good about our "placeholder bikes" we've been riding...Spots with big forks and tires are welcome, i don't need to see your Bullit.

    Disclamer- i am in no way trying to show DT how many of us are on 160-170 bikes-or telling him he's made the wrong choice- Turner Suspension Bicycles is not my company! This was, truely though, a placeholder bike. So was the 09 Reign X that replaced the 07 RFX.

    Happy friday!

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    Hard to beat the DW Spot - love this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadian
    Bout time you showed up. If I didn't love my Spot so much......... .

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    Bout time you showed up. If I didn't love my Spot so much......... .
    yeah as always I'm slow...

    I'm just not sure about that low end shock on there..


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    Quote Originally Posted by surfhb
    Krispy,
    How do you like the Reign compared to your 07 RFX?
    Well, it's not Turner quality-let's get that out there first.

    I'm still a downhiller at heart, and i wanted a lower BB and a slacker head anlge. That's what i got, and was pleasantly suprised with a bit faster acceleration and better sharp bump absorbtion. What i lost was the pivot durability and a lot of pedal strikes while climbing. Half the time i think it's better in the granny, since it digs in for traction, half the time it is a tiny bit stiff which give a little feedback at the pedals.

    It for sure feels more like a mini DH bike. It kills full on DH courses and big jumps.

    The progression rate of the Turner was better, it was a perfect rising rate. Even though the reign X has more travel it doesn't necessarily feel like it since it takes about the same amount of force to bottom out either bike. The extra 10mm makes it feel a little better soaking up big holes on DH courses though.The lack of seat tube is a drag too, even though with a gravity dropper i have the 4 inches it provides plus 2 more inches i can lower it on the frame so 6" total. The 09 was a lot heavier but the 2010 is lightre than the RFX (6.25lbs!!(RP23))

    The shock is the same length, but the bike gets more travel so i went up 50lbs in spring rate, no problem for me-that put me at 400lbs but big fellas end up with heavy springs or high pressures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadian
    yeah as always I'm slow...

    I'm just not sure about that low end shock on there..

    I hear ya on the shock. Some company in Loveland is blowing them out

    BTW, is that stem a Sunline 65 mm, Black? I had an 80mm all mountain but it did not clamp very tight, but been looking at the 65.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    I hear ya on the shock. Some company in Loveland is blowing them out

    BTW, is that stem a Sunline 65 mm, Black? I had an 80mm all mountain but it did not clamp very tight, but been looking at the 65.
    yes that's indeed a 65mm Sunline stem - it's nice, light and stiff.

    I need to try a lighter spring rate on the MX tune tho - it feels just a hair over sprung right now.

    I also have a few trick up my sleeve for the bike...

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    I also have a few trick up my sleeve for the bike... [/QUOTE]

    As do I, my friend, as do I : )

    You ever have a twisting problem with the stem??

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    I also have a few trick up my sleeve for the bike...
    As do I, my friend, as do I : )

    You ever have a twisting problem with the stem??[/QUOTE]

    an I know what your plans are - I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet

    twist at the handlebar or steerer? neither so far. was yours twisting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    You ever have a twisting problem with the stem??
    I have the 50mm and mine slips...pain in the ass, really.
    Extreme stationary biker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadian
    As do I, my friend, as do I : )

    You ever have a twisting problem with the stem??
    an I know what your plans are - I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet Soon

    twist at the handlebar or steerer? neither so far. was yours twisting?[/QUOTE]

    My 80mm stem would twist on the steertube on hard hits, etc.., as I could not seem to tighten it enough. It was the 1st run of them way back when though. The black 65's look sick, gonna have to pull the trigger. Rode twice in the last week, so good to be back on tacky dirt.........until last night that is, 6" of snow & counting Gonna melt fast though

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I have the 50mm and mine slips...pain in the ass, really.

    Hmm, maybe I'll stick to my 70mm Thomson then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    Hmm, maybe I'll stick to my 70mm Thomson then.
    I just switched over to those sunline stems late in the season (right before the rain hit us) - so I only have a hand full of rides on them (also have one on my Reign). Hope they don't start twisting.

    if you need one of those Thomson, let me know - I have a load of them that I'm not using.

    and for a cheaper stem - I like the Truvativ AKA stems. I got one of those on my Orange (60mm) and it's been pretty solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo
    all that killer software your personal pusher supplied you with and this it the best you can do?

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    It's not my fault you don't like CAD renderings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo
    It's not my fault you don't like CAD renderings.
    I just rendered it into a 2D flow chart - looks much better now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo
    You spelled "all" wrong


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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadian
    I just switched over to those sunline stems late in the season (right before the rain hit us) - so I only have a hand full of rides on them (also have one on my Reign). Hope they don't start twisting.
    The Sunline AM stems have 5mm fasteners, and I too have had them twist on the steerers.
    The Sunline DH stems use 6mm fasteners and are rock solid.

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    15 inch wheels?

    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo

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    Which height adjustable seatpost is that? I have a hard time keeping my bike up to spec.
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    Thought i would have seen more Firebirds then Reign X's, esp since the RX has only been out for 6 mo. Like i said this thread is to make me feel better!
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    No pic of my bike BUT I do ride an 08 Reign X1 that was supposed to be placeholder for the DW RFX.

    Now that I have a CCDB in there (Thanks Kris and Go-Ride!) I'm more stoked on this bike than anything I've owned in the past. I even hesitate to grab the Highline if it isn't full face mandatory riding.

    I've got a nearly identical damper setup to Krispy. CCDB rear (new version, not the old crappy one) and 2010 170mm coil Lyrik DH up front. It is scary how well that shock and fork play together. Feels like the same damper on both ends to me.

    The ride yesterday proved to me that this bike is one hell of an efficient climber. In terms of both smoothness and reduced pedal bob. Even after a full day of heaving logs around I was able to destroy my riding buddies to the top, who usually destroy me.

    I am totally stoked and hope it lasts me a couple more years. The pivots sure need to be replaced damn often though. Which is why I was looking at the DW RFX.



    IF DT could deliver the DW RFX with overseas production, at a good price range, it would be the top selling frame of this type without any doubt.


    I think Firebord is totally out of the question for me now. Not slack enough, built for air shocks, and I am just materialistic against carbon fiber rocker arms.

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    Hey Krispy,

    Nice ride, The reign X sure is a top contender, as the next long travel bike i am thinking of getting.

    How are the pivots holding up on the bike? No dramas with it so far.

    Also, how does the Reign X with the CaneCreek Double Barrel compares to a Fox DHX air that comes with the bike?

    Shaun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krispy@go-ride.com
    Which height adjustable seatpost is that? I have a hard time keeping my bike up to spec.

    That's the taint slapô by bounced balls components.
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    here's mine. just picked it up. have a ccdb for it and will be building it up soon

    well i'll post a pick later, it's a banshee rune.
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    Probably a Mojo HD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo
    AWESOME!!!
    nothing witty here...

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    Place, holder, not so much, but it still has a place in the stable, and it's still a kick ass bike. Needs a little cleaning, and a fresh coat of paint, but good to go until it's long dead and gone.

    happy trails...

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    Wink Never think about changing when you have a...

    Highline!
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    Quote Originally Posted by krispy@go-ride.com
    Since the new RFX is on extended vacation lets make ourselves feel good about our "placeholder bikes" we've been riding...


    Krispy, that is a good looking "placeholder bike". Does it have a 12mm rear axle? What rear hub are you running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scepticshock
    Probably a Mojo HD.
    Yep, the news from DT certainly makes the Mojo HD look more enticing. Just a shame that it would make one in some way associated with the loudest voice on the Ibis forum, who earnestly writes sentences like this:


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    I wouldn't call it a replacement to my RFX (which used to Krispy's). It's more of a complimentary bike to the RFX... I'm probably one of the few on this board that doesn't really care if there is a new DW RFX or not. I still love my TNT RFX.

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    Well thank's to Scott and Kris

    at go-ride and to a good friend of mine.this beast was created yesterday.
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    Com'on Phierce...everyone knows you can't freeride a 4-stroke. Well at least it has hand guards. What can I say, I'm 2-stroke for life, or at least until KTM comes out with the new 350 4S and linkage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCC
    at go-ride and to a good friend of mine.this beast was created yesterday.
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    Looks great RCC. I miss her already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noosa2
    Krispy, that is a good looking "placeholder bike". Does it have a 12mm rear axle? What rear hub are you running?
    I'm pretty sure Krispy is running Kings on that bike and the rear is a 12mm x 135mm hub. I'm running Hadleys on my Reign "RF" X. I'll have to get some pics up. Not as tricked as Kris's, but pretty light with Air/Air suspension.
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    I can appreciated DT's business decision regarding the RFX (I would rather see Turner Bikes in business, and financially healthy, than release the RFX), but that doesn't mean I have to like it! I have been waiting for the RFX since it was hinted at on this forum back in late '08/ early '09.

    Now that the RFX is dead/postponed indefinitely, what will you be replacing it with? Here is my not so definitive 2010 RFX replacement list:

    Knolly DT
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    Santa Cruz Nomad
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    Nicolai Helius AFR
    Commencal Meta 6
    Titus El Guapo

    What else did I miss? Which bikes from the above list don't deserve consideration? What replacements made your short list?

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    the afr, dt and mojo will all be in the park price wise compared to the rfx. still don't see how the rfx isn't worth doing when there are this many bikes available in it's class. hell, the nicolai will be even more expensive than the rfx and they seem to be moving ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000
    still don't see how the rfx isn't worth doing when there are this many bikes available in it's class. hell, the nicolai will be even more expensive than the rfx and they seem to be moving ok.
    You said it yourself. The market can't support an infinite amount of bikes at one pricepoint, especially if they are redundant in terms of function and features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    You said it yourself. the market can't support an infinite amount of bikes at one pricepoint, especially if they are redundant in terms of function and features.

    so turner can't compete any more? there are even more bikes by competitors in the 5spot's class . most manufacturers seem to feel the 6-7" range is still a viable category to sell bikes in. some of them are even made in the us and expensive as hell as well. intense and knolly come to mind. seems like just a huge tease for two years with the rfx now.

    after all the dw hype, how is the new rfx redundant. if dw is that good, wouldn't the rfx stand head and shoulders above the competition??

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000
    so turner can't compete any more? there are even more bikes by competitors in the 5spot's class . most manufacturers seem to feel the 6-7" range is still a viable category to sell bikes in. some of them are even made in the us and expensive as hell as well. intense and knolly come to mind. seems like just a huge tease for two years with the rfx now.

    after all the dw hype, how is the new rfx redundant. if dw is that good, wouldn't the rfx stand head and shoulders above the competition??
    I'm missing something in the translation as well. There has to be something DT can do to get this bike on the market. I mean, does the new RFX really have to weigh 7.5 pounds on the nose? How about reducing some machining on the frame, which will add half a pound or less, but the price could come down a couple hundred dollars or more. Many riders are fickle, but I don't think a few ounces of material is going to be a deal breaker. There has to be a few tricks like this that will make the frame more competitive without affecting overall quality.

    What about a limited run to see how it would be received with the masses? The new RFX has created quite a buzz in the cycling industry and I still think it would outsell the Firebird and similar offerings from Nicolai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott@GO-RIDE.com
    I'm pretty sure Krispy is running Kings on that bike and the rear is a 12mm x 135mm hub. I'm running Hadleys on my Reign "RF" X. I'll have to get some pics up. Not as tricked as Kris's, but pretty light with Air/Air suspension.

    Thanks Scott. Do you know if a 135mm heavy duty CK hub (fun bolts, SS carrier etc) will work with a 12mm maxle? Or is their a conversion kit to allow it to work with a maxle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noosa2
    Thanks Scott. Do you know if a 135mm heavy duty CK hub (fun bolts, SS carrier etc) will work with a 12mm maxle? Or is their a conversion kit to allow it to work with a maxle?

    it's a completely separate axle.

    http://www.aspirevelotech.com/Mercha...y_Code=CKAXLES

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    Nice Uzzi Marshall!
    How long have you been riding it? Thoughts/review? Any previous VPP experience to compare to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Willanholly
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    Marshall... i was thinking going this route to, but the issue with chain guide compatibility has me concerned. have you figured out what you are going to do? or maybe you are not going to run one...

    i wish Hope would make a saw blade rotor for the V2s, psick brakes. I loved them on my DHR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bond007jms

    What else did I miss?
    LIteville 901. Even takes the logical (but almost unheard of?) step of using longer chainstays for the bigger frame sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boredwitless
    LIteville 901. Even takes the logical (but almost unheard of?) step of using longer chainstays for the bigger frame sizes.

    that sure looks etter than the 301. the postion of the rocker just scares me on that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick.
    Nice Uzzi Marshall!
    How long have you been riding it? Thoughts/review? Any previous VPP experience to compare to?
    I've been riding it since June. I like it a lot. It's my 3rd VPP bike. I had the earlier version of the UZZI, and I also have an M6.

    Prior to the Uzzi VP, I was on an IH 6point, which was a very fun bike. While the VPP works well in many situations, I think overall I prefer the DW-Link. I had high hopes for the RFX as the current geo numbers look really good to me.


    Quote Originally Posted by rodel
    Marshall... i was thinking going this route to, but the issue with chain guide compatibility has me concerned. have you figured out what you are going to do? or maybe you are not going to run one...

    i wish Hope would make a saw blade rotor for the V2s, psick brakes. I loved them on my DHR.
    I haven't figured out a 2-ring chainguide solution just yet. I know Craig has worked out how to get a Stinger to work after a lot of grinding. That is a pet peeve I have with this bike. That lower link hangs down right where the lower roller should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Willanholly
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    Very nice.

    How is the Muddy Mary working out?

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    stuff the placeholder. go ride the real thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000
    so turner can't compete any more? there are even more bikes by competitors in the 5spot's class . most manufacturers seem to feel the 6-7" range is still a viable category to sell bikes in. some of them are even made in the us and expensive as hell as well. intense and knolly come to mind. seems like just a huge tease for two years with the rfx now.

    after all the dw hype, how is the new rfx redundant. if dw is that good, wouldn't the rfx stand head and shoulders above the competition??
    My city is a good example, we have WAY too many bike shops, and most of them suck, they have to share all the business. Having this many shops just brings them down to an even lower level. On the bigger scale, same thing with airlines, there's simply way too many of them, too many aircraft, too many routes. Demand is low, supply is over-the-top. When you get into this situation, it just screws the industry and it's players over. If DT makes the RFX, there are more choices, Pivot, Intense, and everyone else will sell less bikes, Turner might get some of the market share, but they probably won't "own" it, so it will be a certain demand spread out amongst even more players. That's not how you run business if you want to succeed. You need to keep demand high, and you need to fall a little short in terms of supply, as having exactly "zero" excess is usually very difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    My city is a good example, we have WAY too many bike shops, and most of them suck, they have to share all the business. Having this many shops just brings them down to an even lower level. On the bigger scale, same thing with airlines, there's simply way too many of them, too many aircraft, too many routes. Demand is low, supply is over-the-top. When you get into this situation, it just screws the industry and it's players over. If DT makes the RFX, there are more choices, Pivot, Intense, and everyone else will sell less bikes, Turner might get some of the market share, but they probably won't "own" it, so it will be a certain demand spread out amongst even more players. That's not how you run business if you want to succeed. You need to keep demand high, and you need to fall a little short in terms of supply, as having exactly "zero" excess is usually very difficult.

    then what is the answer? just sit by and let the competition grab that market. hell, in the am and xc market there are way more players. more riders too, but i wonder if the saturation point is the same - number of choices to number of people buying in that category. the rfx isn't new to the category. it's just not in the line up anymore

    i wasn't aware rfx sales #'s were poor pre dwlink. who new. i thought it was a good seller for turner. i guess not. i'm okay with no rfx. like you said, there are a lot of choices out there. if dt figures he can't compete, who am i to tell him he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    Couldn't wait so brought this...

    is that a helius fr or am?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000
    hell, in the am and xc market there are way more players.
    Well, there are a lot more bikes bought as well for XC. Yeah, the RFX isn't a "newcommer" to it's catagory, yet there are many bikes that are new in the RFX's catagory, not to mention all the major manufacturers that have "stepped up" big time in that area recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    Well, there are a lot more bikes bought as well for XC. Yeah, the RFX isn't a "newcommer" to it's catagory, yet there are many bikes that are new in the RFX's catagory, not to mention all the major manufacturers that have "stepped up" big time in that area recently.

    that brings me by to my question. can the rfx no longer compete in this market? dt called the rfx an upgrade over the competition, if that's the case, bring it to market. if it is head and shoulders above the competition, it will sell. even if it is a few hundred more. if it's a game changer the price can be justified. if it's just a heavier duty rune, then i imagine it might not sell at the price mentioned by dt.

    it sucks that it has taken so long to get past the design stage. definitely in that time he's lost some market share and presence in the 6"+ category. i wonder what percentage of rfx's to spots, fluxes and sultans the rfx sold at previously. it might explain dt's reluctance if it was already a small percentage of overall sales.

    well it's good there is a lot of choice in this category. there are a lot of nice bikes posted in this thread from the competition. i wonder how many people wouldn't come ack if the rfx ever makes it to fruition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000
    then what is the answer? just sit by and let the competition grab that market. hell, in the am and xc market there are way more players. more riders too, but i wonder if the saturation point is the same - number of choices to number of people buying in that category. the rfx isn't new to the category. it's just not in the line up anymore

    i wasn't aware rfx sales #'s were poor pre dwlink. who new. i thought it was a good seller for turner. i guess not. i'm okay with no rfx. like you said, there are a lot of choices out there. if dt figures he can't compete, who am i to tell him he can.
    The demand for something like this is not fixed. This is not something that anybody "needs". I am sure you didn't "need" that Rune but you bought it anyway. It just has to be justifiable. If DT gets the product mix right I am sure it will sell. I can't blame him for thinking long and hard before jumping in.
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    Complimentary??? They're the exact same type of bike!

    [QUOTE=flipnidaho]I wouldn't call it a replacement to my RFX (which used to Krispy's). It's more of a complimentary bike to the RFX... I'm probably one of the few on this board that doesn't really care if there is a new DW RFX or not. I still love my TNT RFX.

    The El Guapo's my main ride, I did love my '06 RFX though
    I like bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronny
    I still think it would outsell the Firebird and similar offerings from Nicolai.
    If it is truely a step up from a Firebird i'd buy one as soon as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
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    Nice Jamis!
    Extreme stationary biker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000
    is that a helius fr or am?

    Its the FR.

    IT is a sweet ride and is very stiff and confidence inspiring.Double barrel made it ride even better

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Nice Jamis!

    Yeah thanks had to buy a Nicolai sticker pack for it.

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    Also from Europe:

    Lapierre Froggy

    Mondraker Dune XR (DW clone?)

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    this is it!

    the brand new 2010 RFX...and i wont't get rid of it, period...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Willanholly
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    I've wondered about that bike... would love to try one out see if it climbs decent..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leethal
    I've wondered about that bike... would love to try one out see if it climbs decent..
    I took a couple laps on the new uzzi at ODD last fall. I was impressed, it was the best feeling FR bike I tried there.
    It pedaled well, had less pedal feedback than the old uzzi, and felt nice and progressive on the bigger hits.

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    I too went with a Nicolai as a placeholder for the new RFX. Here she is! The Horst Link is so hot right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    I too went with a Nicolai as a placeholder for the new RFX. Here she is! The Horst Link is so hot right now!

    Looks flexy

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    I too went with a Nicolai as a placeholder for the new RFX. Here she is! The Horst Link is so hot right now!
    Have you taken it off any sweet jumps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtbag
    Have you taken it off any sweet jumps?

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    The funny thing

    Is the Reign, Remedy, etc. may ride just as well for less. Hmm. The RFX may be right under your nose.

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    2010 minus a few years

    My rare Turner, I hope Dave brings us a new RFX to continue this tradition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtbag
    Have you taken it off any sweet jumps?
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    This is my RFX for 2010. It's an oldie...


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    Man! Those old ones are gorgeous.
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    yes the oldies are very sweet...nice ride

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    I was looking forward to the DW RFX but I guess I'll just have to slum it with old Knolly for a while longer.
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/4391854862/" title="513 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4391854862_4a2e607c4e_o.jpg" width="900" height="675" alt="513" /></a>

    Other bikes in this category that might fill the bill if I get antsy.

    2010 Knolly Delirium T
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    El Guapo
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    Intense Uzzi VP
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    Canfield Brothers One
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