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    POS special: what is the worst part you've ever installed on your bike?

    I was just wondering what's the worst thing you've bought for your bike.

    We always hope UGI always means improvement, but sometimes it turns out to be just a silly idea.

    Bring out the shame!
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    The biggest POS I've ever bought for my bike, was the Fox 36 TalasRLC. I only kept it for a month, and then sold it to some sucker on the east coast. The color of the fork was a perfect indication of how it would perform. The WTB rear hub on my VP Free comes in at a close second. No offense Tscheezy!
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    Hands down, Avid Juicy 7s. I couldn't wait to get them off of my bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    The biggest POS I've ever bought for my bike, was the Fox 36 TalasRLC. !
    Tell me why you hated it. I'm planning on getting an 06 as soon as they are available.

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    In 2001 I bought an XTR/Bontrager mustang wheelset from one of the online mass retailers.

    Halfway into a long ride both front & rear spokes completely unwound after 3 rides. And that was back in the day of rim brakes so I had the option of walking home several miles or riding without brakes.

    Second place: Hutchinson Scorpion airlights. Sustained multiple sidewall tears to both front & rear tires on the first ride.

    Good times.
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    hands down the dumbest thing I ever put on a bike were gears .... oh yeah, one time I put something on the chainstay called a horst-link or something like that but I hated it and traded it in for some butt butter to prevent chafing

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    If you are going to get a 36, then get the Vanilla version. The Talas is a very harsh ride on high speed rocky descents, and the only real way to prevent bottom out is to add more air to the Talas chamber which just adds to the lack of small bump sensitivity. The high speed compression adjustment affects the full stroke of the shock, so if you add more clicks of HS compression, the ride suffers even more. Now with that said, I weigh 225 lbs, and have heard the larger guys complaining about them more than the people that weigh under a buck 65. Both Squeaky, and Crash the Dog will tell you the same about that fork.

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    I've seen you ride.
    you should reconsider the gears and horst link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    If you are going to get a 36, then get the Vanilla version. The Talas is a very harsh ride on high speed rocky descents, and the only real way to prevent bottom out is to add more air to the Talas chamber which just adds to the lack of small bump sensitivity. The high speed compression adjustment affects the full stroke of the shock, so if you add more clicks of HS compression, the ride suffers even more. Now with that said, I weigh 225 lbs, and have heard the larger guys complaining about them more than the people that weigh under a buck 65. Both Squeaky, and Crash the Dog will tell you the same about that fork.
    Thanks. Guess I should get in a test ride first. I liked the 130 talas I had on my xc bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    If you are going to get a 36, then get the Vanilla version.
    Stay away from the 36. El Chingon summed it up pretty well. The best way to describe the travel is harsh, particularly at high speeds. Go for Marz Z1 or the 36 Vanilla.

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    Wow, thanks for this excellant thread idea!

    Here's my list:

    #1 syncros front hub, circa 1998.
    Bearings kept seizing on me during rides, even new ones. It seemed that the design of the hub allowed for hub rotation to tighten the cones.This would then create a loud screaching sound that forced my riding partners to distance themselves from me. Nothing like watching yoru front wheel stop spinning everytime it leaves the ground! So finally I removed it from the bike. One night it was sitting on my kitchen table when the hub shell literally split in half, sending chunks of hub flange everywhere (it was radially laced) syncros warranted it but sent me clothes instead of bike parts at my request.

    #2 Hutchinson spider 2.3 uST tire: 3 flats on the first ride.

    #3 kooka cranks: a shop buddy of mine and I both got free pairs. Mine rounded out within weeks. He put his on his road bike, they snapped sending him OTB.

    #4 rockshox judy fork.

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    Hopey Steering Damper on a single crown fork!

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    Onza HO.

    Sram PG990 cassette.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

    You're turning black metallic.

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    Cannondale Coda cranks.
    Coda disk brakes.
    Coda hubs.
    Coda anything.
    Cannondale anything (except for Lefty fork).

    Also, Rock Shox Psylo fork. What a waste of money.


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    Onza HO.

    Sram PG990 cassette.
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    1st.

    I bought a pair of flat soled HIKING SHOES b/c I thought they would be good for riding in platform pedals. I finally tried them out last week, my nuts have sorely thanked me since then. On any hit over '4 ft to flat' I can pretty much guarantee slipping off and racking the family jewels.




    2nd: Juicy 5 rear. The lever is sticky, nowhere near as smooth as the front '7'.


    3rd. light tubes....lots of flats.
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    Ellsworth Truth.
    What the EFF is "All MOUNTAIN"???

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    I've been agreeing with Jayem a lot lately

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    Onza HO
    Lucky I didn't break my hips with those.
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    Hope Mono Minis take the cake, for how expensive they were and all they did was looked good.

    Fox TALAS 125 RLC. Either harsh or easy to bottom and expensive to boot.

    Michelin All Mountain UST tubless tire. Tread was gone after about 3 weeks and it got sliced up by the slightest of rocks.

    Race Face SRX bottom bracket. 2 of them died within hours of installation.

    Selle San Marco saddle. This is a torture device straight from the middle ages.

    Hopey Steering Damper. I didn't hate it, I just didn't see much of a benefit. And making U Turns and going through thigh switchbacks was annoying.

    Tubeless rims and tires. By the time you get a solid setup, where the tires don't easly puncture or get sliced, you're running several extra pounds of metal and rubber.

    Sealant. Useless for most every type of puncture, save for a cactus or a thorn.

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    A cheapo ISIS BB...I don't weigh enough to kill parts within 2-3 months of normal (non-crash) operation. Funny enough my second one lasted equally as long...er, short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK_

    Race Face SRX bottom bracket. 2 of them died within hours of installation.

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    Yeah, that's the one! It does makes a fine paper weight though.

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    truvativ isis bottom bracket. lasted less than 100 miles.

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    Called out...

    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    The biggest POS I've ever bought for my bike, was the Fox 36 TalasRLC. I only kept it for a month, and then sold it to some sucker on the east coast.
    Didn't your mama teach you manners, El C? I believe I'm the sucka you're referring to. You would a thought that a person who bought the fork on mtbr.com would also be reading the forums as well...and BTW, it was the West coast. I'm not trying to start a war of words and have tempers flare here, but I'd hope you'd be more respectful of others who are learning about the sport of mountain biking and the products offered in the mountain bike industry.

    Now with that said and after reading your later post to kidwoo I'd hope that the fork you sold me would serve me better than you. I am under 165#, so that bodes well for me, hopefully even under the harsh rocky descents that you complained of. After looking at the way you ride, hucking off of everything you can find, I'm not surprised that you are better served by that Z1 FR1 coil fork of yours.

    Peace.

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    Pace Rc41xcam

    Quote Originally Posted by accident prone
    I was just wondering what's the worst thing you've bought for your bike.

    We always hope UGI always means improvement, but sometimes it turns out to be just a silly idea.

    Bring out the shame!
    Pace RC41XCAM, lasted six weeks, haven't seen them again since, maybe they'll get repaired, so I can sell them.

    XTR carbon brake boosters, what a waste of time, again carbon, I should have learned and not bought the Pace.

    Nicolai helius CC. Not that bad, but I should have bought a turner then as they sold turners too. Another big waste of cash.

    So, mainly carbon stuff really.

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    Hopefully things will change!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    Onza HO.

    Sram PG990 cassette.
    Just bought the '06 PG990 with a new 990 chain and it has not been going well after 3 rides. Lots of ghost shifting and grinding. Can't get it correctly setup. Hopefully things will go better and I will not be adding them to this list after changing from XT cassette and a Wipperman chain(flawless).

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    Oreo,

    I couldn't remember if it was my Heckler frame, or the 36 that ended up on the East Coast. Thanks for the clarification. I'm glad to hear that the 36 is serving you well. Most smaller guys have good things to say about that fork like I intimated in my post above.

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    #1- Ellsworth Dare XC '99/'00. Rear end made of wet spaghetti. The "stiff kit" through axle pivot "upgrade" made it no better. Just a piss-poor frame.

    #2- Hope Enduro 4's. Bought the most expensive brakes on the market at the time, thinking they were the best. Couldn't have been more wrong. I was severely disappointed with everything about them - performance, reliability, noise, and customer service. Never say never, but I'll never run a Hope product again.
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    hhuummm

    Quote Originally Posted by accident prone
    I was just wondering what's the worst thing you've bought for your bike.

    We always hope UGI always means improvement, but sometimes it turns out to be just a silly idea.

    Bring out the shame!
    1. Judy XC: arch busted on me at speed..3 bruised ribs and a concussion.

    2. American Classic ISIS BB: bearings seized after 4 months. Warrenteed but 2nd BB went south after 6 months

    3. IRC Mythos tires..what the hell was i thinkin..

    4. Enzo clipless pedals..

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    Early Rockshocks

    Any rear coil rockshock oil ejecting shock and all psylo bushing wear machine forks. Funny how one person can have a completely different experience with a product than the next person. Some are complaining about the Sram cassets but I went through 3 XTR cassets and 4 XT's before (bending a larger cog over a smaller one) switching to Sram and have only bent one 990 casset and after bending the cog strait it ended up lasting allmost 3 years.

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    In keeping with the theme:
    Cannondale Scalpel. Sucked the big one.

    Answering the question:
    Onza HO pedals. Makes me shake just thinking about them.
    Answer Protaper carbon handlebars. Just say no to carbon controls.

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    Hope XC 4 disc brakes.

    These were the early 'open" system with the dial on the top to adjust for fluid expansion. They looked cool and the dial was a good idea on paper but it sure was tough to spin that sucker while traveling top speed down hill and then remember to dial it back in at the bottom.

    Then there was the installation nightmare. Had to shim the caliper and the rotor, File the back of the caliper and redish both wheels to keep them from hitting the spokes. Bleeding was a a two day job and they only used DOT5.1 which was very hard to find at the time also.
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    I should add the plastic SRAM derailleurs of days gone by. They've prevented me from purchasing the new fangled ones that everyone oohs and ahhs about.

    Also, hope disc brakes. Pre-mono calipers.

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    -Canti brakes
    -Proflex "OTB" fork-the 957 was a great bike tho
    -original Grip shifters- had to put zip ties on the grip to shift in the wet
    -CNC/neon color kraze, ugly and scary, broke a handfull of diff. components
    -Michelin/ Hutchinson tires
    -'01/'03 Truth, or maybe just the company, the bike rode awesome while it lasted

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    Shimano Biopace chainrings - even as a kid I knew pedaling wasn't supposed to feel like that.

    Shimano chains - every one, every time, broke.

    Carmichael Jockey wheels - nothing like an "upgrade" that dramatically decreases performance imediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incubus
    I should add the plastic SRAM derailleurs of days gone by. They've prevented me from purchasing the new fangled ones that everyone oohs and ahhs about.

    Also, hope disc brakes. Pre-mono calipers.
    Oh yeah.....ye ole platic crappers. I thought I had nothing to add to this thread until you reminded me. Those things shift great but fall apart under a strong breeze.

    Don't let them deter you from the new stuff. Totally different world. I've got sram derailleurs on my dh and freeride bikes. They last.

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    1. Rockshox Quadra

    2. Rockshox Judy

    3. Several saddles that I can't recall the particular names. Each had 1 and only 1 ride on them.

    --------------------

    What happened to all the Fox 36 Talas love? I recall when El Beastro got his, replacing his AM1, it kicked arse over the AM1? Do they get worse over time?

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    mainly Old Skool crap

    1. Bob Roll's prayer stix grips suck beyond belief. Would not stay put no matter what.




      2. Original Shimano push-push rapidfire triggers.

      3. IRC Piranha Pro tires.



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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chingon
    If you are going to get a 36, then get the Vanilla version. The Talas is a very harsh ride on high speed rocky descents, and the only real way to prevent bottom out is to add more air to the Talas chamber which just adds to the lack of small bump sensitivity. The high speed compression adjustment affects the full stroke of the shock, so if you add more clicks of HS compression, the ride suffers even more. Now with that said, I weigh 225 lbs, and have heard the larger guys complaining about them more than the people that weigh under a buck 65. Both Squeaky, and Crash the Dog will tell you the same about that fork.

    Uhhh....Squeaky doesn't weigh over 165...not even if you threw a cinderblock in his Camelback.

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    POS special: what is the worst part you've ever installed on your bike?

    Quote "Michelin All Mountain UST tubless tire. Tread was gone after about 3 weeks and it got sliced up by the slightest of rocks."
    Had a set of these for one day,very hard to seat, one day of riding 32 miles even the front side tread seemed to fracture/break away,truly awful tyres got my money back.
    Nokion NBX UST heavy and slippy as a slippy thing any where near rocks,one good point they wear well,actually thats a bad point can't justify throwing them out !!

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    The worst part I installed this year where the aluminim chainring bolts that where subposed to hold the granny to the crank.
    I think the picture should talk for itself... was no fun to remove the crank without adequate tools at the trail in the middle of nowhere.

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    ummm let see...not exactly on my Burner but...

    Rock Shox Rear shocks, blew it up twice before I chucked it.

    And Bontrager RE-1 Pedals, got three rides in on em and the traps broke, absolute junk.

    Oh-yeah, Sugino Cranks

    edit: Forgot abou the 3-way that came on the Burner, complete crap

    happy trails...

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    and he still didn't like the fork. Go figure.

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    Crap - of varying degrees

    1. CO2 cartridge pump: I've used more cartridges than I thought necessary to pack, and ended up with a semi-inflated tire on more than one ride. You just can't replace the always dependable right arm...

    2. Swinger 3 way shock: A small window for the sweet spot that requires far too much effort to find. The sheer number of threads on this board should clue you in. Much happier with a Float.

    3. Eggbeaters: These lasted a month on my MTB before landing on my road bike where I can't whack them on rocks and experience the ejection mode.

    4. Continental Explorer/Survival Tires: Great grip and good weight, they last as long as a weak head cold.

    5. IRC Mythos Tires: Do I really have to explain?

    6. RS Quadra/Judy/Psylo: Sucked in their very own special way, every one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceskier
    Just bought the '06 PG990 with a new 990 chain and it has not been going well after 3 rides. Lots of ghost shifting and grinding. Can't get it correctly setup. Hopefully things will go better and I will not be adding them to this list after changing from XT cassette and a Wipperman chain(flawless).
    The problem was that it lasted about 3 months, and that's with a fresh chain change, the metal was just too soft. When it started slipping, the chain length was actually fine, it was just the metal on the cassette being eaten away. There are a lot of parts that I could put on this list, but the wear on that was pretty unacceptable and stands out for that reason.
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    UGI so bad - too many to count...

    1. Tioga disk wheel
    2. Spinergy rev-x wheels
    3. ti stantions for original manitou fork - they weren't polished - so much stiction the fork wouldn't even move
    4. IRD widget brake
    5. 3DV purple stuff (although those grafton brakes worked great)
    6. 1999 Seven teres (changed the design and didn't support spare parts on a bike that's supposed to last a lifetime - $2800 frame)
    7. Cannondale delta-v 1000

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    Edsan forks- never heard of them? lucky you
    Manitou 3s
    Selle Italia SLR saddle.
    Most '95 XTR stuff except the hubs
    Sugino 700 cranks.

    Funny that mythos tires have come up a bit, I like em, indeed I just raced a 24 hour, covering 320km, with a 2.1 XC on the front, and didnt slip once.

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    Xtr Rapid Rise Derailleur!!!!!!

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    Paul rear derailleur....

    ....Snapped off with one crosschaining. The second one did the same thing. Supergo refunded me my money.

    Damn gorgeous part, though.

    Feel the gin


    Quote Originally Posted by accident prone
    I was just wondering what's the worst thing you've bought for your bike.

    We always hope UGI always means improvement, but sometimes it turns out to be just a silly idea.

    Bring out the shame!
    Ask me about my translucent green clearcoat!

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    Probably why they called em "Prayer sticks"....

    ...wuz cuz you have to pray that they stick.

    Feel the gin



    Quote Originally Posted by D-Rock
    1. Bob Roll's prayer stix grips suck beyond belief. Would not stay put no matter what.




      2. Original Shimano push-push rapidfire triggers.

      3. IRC Piranha Pro tires.



    D.
    Ask me about my translucent green clearcoat!

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    [QUOTE=Jayem]Onza HO. QUOTE]

    Amen to that one! I had almost forgotton those monstrosities. I had a set back in the 90's at one point and they would either refuse to let you clip in or release unexpectedly at the worst time.

    I will add my own

    Softrides suspension stem/beam-the best human catapult ever designed.
    Topline cranks-all sets cracked around the BB spindle
    bullseye aluminum (purple ano of course!) derailleur pulleys that were so wide they caused the rear derailleur cage to get pulled into the rear wheel causing a sudden and catastrophic detonation.

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    Scott Unishock
    Shimano Octalink ES-71 bottom bracket / crank design
    Onza pedals
    WTB Mutanoraptor 2.4" - tore 2" slit in tread on a tiny rock in the middle of the trail.
    Shimano 9spd- 8spd worked great
    Pre SRAM gripshift
    I stopped driving my bike into my garage - I'm now protected with Roof Rack Ranger app for my iPhone.

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