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    Parting out my bikes: Paid Spam

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    I'm hoping these will go pretty fast, so if any of those prices seem way out of whack, just make me an offer.

    I'll try and get some pics up of individual parts as I get them stripped down and cleaned up.

    All parts are in at least Fair to Good condition with some in excellent shape.
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    Burner?

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    I'd bet Chili ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Burner?
    What else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HubbaMan View Post
    I'd bet Chili ...
    There is that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    There is that.
    Check with Lance first...


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    You're getting a Trek and racing the Tour de France?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    What else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck View Post
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    Some bushings work, some bushings....nevermind

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    Good luck with the sale. I can't give the Endo away. I imagine your Turner will sell faster though.

    A post knollfest Chili is probably where you're going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
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    I'm hoping these will go pretty fast, so if any of those prices seem way out of whack, just make me an offer.

    I'll try and get some pics up of individual parts as I get them stripped down and cleaned up.

    All parts are in at least Fair to Good condition with some in excellent shape.
    I'll give you tree fiddy for the lot.
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    Good luck with the sale. I can't give the Endo away. I imagine your Turner will sell faster though.

    A post knollfest Chili is probably where you're going.
    The used bike market seems to have taken a hit the past 6 months. Bikes are just sitting in the classifieds, begging to be bought. I saw your Endo for a pretty good deal, too bad I'd rather throw my leg over a Chili though. Before I post to classifieds, anyone interested in a 11 Spot

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhynohead View Post
    The used bike market seems to have taken a hit the past 6 months. Bikes are just sitting in the classifieds, begging to be bought.D
    Yeah, that's why I decided to try parting them out instead. We'll see how it goes. It does mean that I'll be relegated to the old hard tail for the next three months while this all plays out.

    It started snowing today and the old hard tail is the best choice for winter riding anyway.
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    I never have much luck selling stuff this time of year. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheatgerm View Post
    I never have much luck selling stuff this time of year. Good luck.
    I get the feeling that the used 26 market will only get weaker, the plus side being people will be able to get into the sport on better bikes for less. Now that 26 = kid's wheels this should help get more kids riding.

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    I am getting ready to sell my 2010 Spot also and replace it with a Burner. Is the Burner ready yet? That is going to be my next bike...

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    I think the first batch was due back with Turner late this week, not sure if they arrived though.
    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    I wonder if a guy should wait for the first batch to get used to see if any bugs need to be worked out. I remember the bugs reported with the 2009 5 Spot.

    KROB, what fork are you going to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    I wonder if a guy should wait for the first batch to get used to see if any bugs need to be worked out. I remember the bugs reported with the 2009 5 Spot.

    KROB, what fork are you going to use?
    Not sure yet, but it won't be the 55RC3 cause I just sold it. Either a Fox Float 36 160 or a lyric solo air RC2DH. I want to keep it light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    I wonder if a guy should wait for the first batch to get used to see if any bugs need to be worked out. I remember the bugs reported with the 2009 5 Spot.

    KROB, what fork are you going to use?
    JBo, the 2009 frames were a total redesign for DT. New bushings, linkages, rear-ends, etc. Nothing was shared from the previous models.

    The DW Turners have been getting refined since 2009. Although the Burner is a new model, it shares a lot of parts/ideas with previous DW frames. I'd say it will be safe to pull the trigger right away. I don't think there will be any bugs to work out, that all happened early on in the DW line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Check with Lance first...

    Now that's funny...
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    The frame is going to be 2.2k? Where did you guy order it? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Not sure yet, but it won't be the 55RC3 cause I just sold it. Either a Fox Float 36 160 or a lyric solo air RC2DH. I want to keep it light.
    I didn't know they made a 650B Fox 36. I have been thinking about a Marzocchi fork for my next build. I get tapped on this bikes stuff now. It feels like bike stuff has gone up a lot lately. It is better stuff and really durable but more money. I look forward to your review on it!!!!

    PS that Nevada riding looks sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Now that's funny...
    I though so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    The frame is going to be 2.2k? Where did you guy order it? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    The frame is going to be 2.2k? Where did you guy order it? Thanks.
    $2195 for Raw, +$250 for anything Ano on the Turner website

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    $2195 for Raw, +$250 for anything Ano on the Turner website
    Or 1595 with the Turner for Turner deal. That's how I read it

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Or 1595 with the Turner for Turner deal. That's how I read it
    If I put a Turner decal over my Pivot decal, does that count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    I didn't know they made a 650B Fox 36.
    They don't, 650b specific forks are 34s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Check with Lance first...

    Ha ha. Are you calling me a liar? I never tested positive for performance ehancing fanboyism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HubbaMan View Post
    They don't, 650b specific forks are 34s.
    Not approved, but I thought the 26" specific 36 Fox Float will work with a 650b wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Not approved, but I thought the 26" specific 36 Fox Float will work with a 650b wheel.
    Maybe the newest version allows more space? My 2011 Fox 36 has no more than .75" between the tire and arch with a 2.3 Butcher. If this is in fact the route you're going you might want to also make sure that at full travel the tire won't hit the crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    Maybe the newest version allows more space? My 2011 Fox 36 has no more than .75" between the tire and arch with a 2.3 Butcher. If this is in fact the route you're going you might want to also make sure that at full travel the tire won't hit the crown.
    How about the 180 Foxes? Do they have clearance like the latest 40 (still proto?) legs?

    I don't know if this is a 26 or 27.5 thread when KRob replied to Jaybo's fork question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Not approved, but I thought the 26" specific 36 Fox Float will work with a 650b wheel.
    I think you're right in saying it could fit, however you could also be limiting yourself to smaller tire profiles just because of the fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Ha ha. Are you calling me a liar? I never tested positive for performance ehancing fanboyism.
    Good double entendre there... Not the one with the 7 yellow jerseys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    If I put a Turner decal over my Pivot decal, does that count?
    Dave might take that... I imagine you will have little trouble finding a buyer for the 429 if you go that way. Ride it with a for sale sign on it at SOMO or trail 100. I bet you would get offers. Let me now you do that, I want to see if it works. I might try it this weekend just for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    If I put a Turner decal over my Pivot decal, does that count?
    I don't think you could find enough Turner decals to cover those Pivot decals

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Good double entendre there... Not the one with the 7 yellow jerseys.
    Oh, did you mean this Lance?

    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    Good luck with the sale. I can't give the Endo away.
    See, the secret is you do have to give them away. I've got an offer on the table for the Knolly I'm considering..... but it's quite a bit lower than I thought I'd take for it. But it's probably fair given the current used bike market.

    I bet for the "right" price that Endorphin would sell fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtbag View Post
    I don't think you could find enough Turner decals to cover those Pivot decals
    Very true

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck View Post
    I don't know if this is a 26 or 27.5 thread when KRob replied to Jaybo's fork question.
    I thought that's what this thread was all about. Am I going with a 26er or a 27.5er on this new build?

    Knolly or Turner? Tomayto? Tomahto?

    Split loyalties and all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    If I put a Turner decal over my Pivot decal, does that count?
    Only if you had a FB. I'm pretty sure Dave would approve. Afterall, I think he's the one that said "If you want an RFX just go buy a Firebird".
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    I thought that's what this thread was all about. Am I going with a 26er or a 27.5er on this new build?

    Knolly or Turner? Tomayto? Tomahto?

    Split loyalties and all that.
    Not sure where the Burner talk came from. Your direction was very obvious. May your chili always be hot

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    I thought that's what this thread was all about. Am I going with a 26er or a 27.5er on this new build?

    Knolly or Turner? Tomayto? Tomahto?

    Split loyalties and all that.
    KRob- Did you get a chance to ride a Chili during the Knollfest? If so how did it compare to your 5 Spot? I love my 11 Spot, but like so many, i've got the new bike itch. If I'm derailing the derailed thread, pm me or I'll post op on the "other" board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhynohead View Post
    KRob- Did you get a chance to ride a Chili during the Knollfest? If so how did it compare to your 5 Spot? I love my 11 Spot, but like so many, i've got the new bike itch. If I'm derailing the derailed thread, pm me or I'll post op on the "other" board.
    Check with Lance.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhynohead View Post
    KRob- Did you get a chance to ride a Chili during the Knollfest? If so how did it compare to your 5 Spot? I love my 11 Spot, but like so many, i've got the new bike itch. If I'm derailing the derailed thread, pm me or I'll post op on the "other" board.
    I recently had the new bike itch too. Didn't work out so well. The Spot is tough to beat for all-around riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Dave might take that... I imagine you will have little trouble finding a buyer for the 429 if you go that way. Ride it with a for sale sign on it at SOMO or trail 100. I bet you would get offers. Let me now you do that, I want to see if it works. I might try it this weekend just for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I'll be on a new Endo if I can sell the Pivot. Built nice and light, and a great compliment to the Chili.
    Oh man, thought you could get back on a Turner, mate! You would likely really enjoy a Sultan or Burner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I'll be on a new Endo if I can sell the Pivot. Built nice and light, and a great compliment to the Chili.
    Hmmm. After the last time you had an Endo(s)? Really? Just buy Lance's since you know Dusty will take care of you. Or treat yourself to an on sale now Sultan which is the DW 9er you should have purchased in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    Not sure where the Burner talk came from. Your direction was very obvious. May your chili always be hot
    And not cracked.

    KRob seems to have lusted after the Burner. The selling of BOTH 26ers at the same time seems to lean in the direction of 27.5. If he was going Chili there are plenty of parts there to keep for the build.

    It's fun (for me) to comment on others alleged builds. 5 spot for me baby! I'm with Lance! Or he is with me or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    I recently had the new bike itch too. Didn't work out so well. The Spot is tough to beat for all-around riding.
    Thanks. I'm back and forth about the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Hmmm. After the last time you had an Endo(s)? Really? Just buy Lance's since you know Dusty will take care of you. Or treat yourself to an on sale now Sultan which is the 9er you should have purchased in the first place.

    Bob
    Yeah..really. I love the Chili, best bike I have owned by far for the stuff I ride. A super light Endo would be killer and much more versatile than the Pivot I am on now. If I were to stay with a 29er, I would probably go with a RIP9 as I have some time on one and like the way it rides. A Sultan might be an option if there were a killer deal on one, but a Knolly would still top the list. The real question is 29 or 26?

    An no, I'm not buying Lance's bike, it's the wrong color

    Of course, none of this matters unless the Pivot sells for a decent amount.
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    I don't care what bike he buys, won't slow me down at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I'll be on a new Endo if I can sell the Pivot. Built nice and light, and a great compliment to the Chili.
    Pivots sell fast! Wow! Merry Xmas to tiSSer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Pivots sell fast! Wow! Merry Xmas to tiSSer.
    Yep, they sure do (it helps when they are priced right). Even better is it was a local sale. We met up at T100, 10 minutes after he took it for a ride we were heading to the bank

    Looking forward to getting a more purposeful and functional bike.

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone I hope you all get some great saddle time in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Looking forward to getting a more purposeful and functional bike.
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    650B Endorphin??

    The DT has sold as a complete bike and I'm lowering the 5 Spot frame to $850.
    The Avalanche modified DHX shock is still available as well .
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    650B Endorphin??
    Doesn't exist...

    Burner does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Doesn't exist...

    Burner does.
    True, but after a brief ride on a new Endorphin while down in Phoenix a couple weeks ago I'd say the Endorphin 650B (when it does come out) will give him a little more separation from his Chili. Eventhough the Endo650b and Burner will have the same travel, I think the Endo will be more XC/trail oriented versus the Burner's Trail/AM leanings.

    The Endo is light, efficient and fast. Not like the old Endo at all.

    Besides, I don't think tiSS'er is a big dw link fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    True, but after a brief ride on a new Endorphin while down in Phoenix a couple weeks ago I'd say the Endorphin 650B (when it does come out) will give him a little more separation from his Chili. Eventhough the Endo650b and Burner will have the same travel, I think the Endo will be more XC/trail oriented versus the Burner's Trail/AM leanings.

    The Endo is light, efficient and fast. Not like the old Endo at all.

    Besides, I don't think tiSS'er is a big dw link fan.
    The only question to answer is will the new Endo have a longer time before top tube to seat tube cracks, top tube to head tube cracks or chainstay cracks than the old Endo? I hope so.

    I know about TiSSer's problems with DW link which is why I was surprised when he bought a 429 and I can guess what bike the knollician will buy. I am still working on you.

    Although I suspect that even though you rode a DW 5 spot for the last year and a half as your primary ride and would not have been outbiked at the Knollfest in Phoenix, you will succumb to the Knolly peer pressure and be on a chili soon even though the Burner or 5 spot would be better for 90 percent of your rides. Merry Xmas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    True, but after a brief ride on a new Endorphin while down in Phoenix a couple weeks ago I'd say the Endorphin 650B (when it does come out) will give him a little more separation from his Chili. Eventhough the Endo650b and Burner will have the same travel, I think the Endo will be more XC/trail oriented versus the Burner's Trail/AM leanings.

    The Endo is light, efficient and fast. Not like the old Endo at all.

    Besides, I don't think tiSS'er is a big dw link fan.
    Stay on topic, this is your ad, even if Turner's little succubus is trying to have its way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Although I suspect that even though you rode a DW 5 spot for the last year and a half as your primary ride and would not have been outbiked at the Knollfest in Phoenix, you will succumb to the Knolly peer pressure and be on a chili soon even though the Burner or 5 spot would be better for 90 percent of your rides. Merry Xmas!

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    Why do ya gotta go and muddy the water with all that logical thinking and facts. Bike purchases are all based on impulse and emotion. You should know that.

    No peer pressure at the Knollfest (maybe some envy on my part on the climbs). In fact it was kinda cool being the only one there with the old school DT....and in that uber-chunk I was much happier/comfortable to be on the DT than my Spot when the trail pointed downward (although I don't think I would've been too underbiked on the Spot)

    While what you say may be true (and I do lust after the Burner...and would love to have a '12-'13 Spot with the slacker lower geometry and 142mm rear wheel spacing), I think the Chili is more versatile. I could take it from a 30 lb 5 Spot competitor with lighter wheels and air suspension to near-DT levels of gnar-competence with heavier wheels/tires and a 180 fork and it'd still be five lbs lighter than my DT.

    As much as I like my 5 Spot and as cool as the new Spot and Burner are, Dave still doesn't make a bike that will do that.
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    Stay on topic, this is your ad, even if Turner's little succubus is trying to have its way.
    That's true. I should get back to spaming my parts.

    Did you see that I've lowered the 5 Spot to $850?..... and I still have some nice Havoc wheels and a really cool Avy modified DHX ti coiled shock on the block?


    Actually kinda surprised the mods haven't locked this thread. Sorry about the derail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    That's true. I should get back to spaming my parts.

    Did you see that I've lowered the 5 Spot to $850?..... and I still have some nice Havoc wheels and a really cool Avy modified DHX ti coiled shock on the block?


    Actually kinda surprised the mods haven't locked this thread. Sorry about the derail.
    I disagree. This thread is actually an interesting debate on what bike you should get next. I think that might be the reason for this website. To talk about bikes. Good and bad.

    And since I am a male it is incubus... Accuracy, facts and all that.

    Although Dave Turner is not a demon, so that is not accurate either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    I disagree. This thread is actually an interesting debate on what bike you should get next. I think that might be the reason for this website. To talk about bikes. Good and bad.

    And since I am a male it is incubus... Accuracy, facts and all that.

    Although Dave Turner is not a demon, so that is not accurate either.

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    Oh it was accurate, Dave's the one dreaming .
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    That's true. I should get back to spaming my parts.

    Did you see that I've lowered the 5 Spot to $850?..... and I still have some nice Havoc wheels and a really cool Avy modified DHX ti coiled shock on the block?


    Actually kinda surprised the mods haven't locked this thread. Sorry about the derail.
    The ti spring probably won't fit my CCDB....boo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrwhlr View Post
    Oh it was accurate, Dave's the one dreaming .
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    The only question to answer is will the new Endo have a longer time before top tube to seat tube cracks, top tube to head tube cracks or chainstay cracks than the old Endo? I hope so.

    I know about TiSSer's problems with DW link which is why I was surprised when he bought a 429 and I can guess what bike the knollician will buy. I am still working on you.

    Although I suspect that even though you rode a DW 5 spot for the last year and a half as your primary ride and would not have been outbiked at the Knollfest in Phoenix, you will succumb to the Knolly peer pressure and be on a chili soon even though the Burner or 5 spot would be better for 90 percent of your rides. Merry Xmas!

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    I guess I am not sure why anyone cares what I buy, but I can appreciate that Dave has guys out there shilling for him, I do the same for Knolly. It's a great sign for Dave. And it should be no big mystery what bike I'm getting, it will be here later this week or next

    Bobo feels the need the to keep brining up the breaking issue I had with my previous generation Endo. It's true, I cracked it a few times (never catastrophic I was never stranded), each time Knolly had me squared away. Noel has addressed the problem and the new frames are solid.

    Bobo, if it makes you feel any better, I broke my 06 RFX 4 times in 18 months. I first broke the seat stay in Flag. I then broke the main triangle at the taco. Shortly after that, I broke the chainstay at the CNC'd dropout, and finally the rockers. The dropout break required a nice long hike back to my car. After the RFX, I broke an 07 Spot. I broke the top tube right at head tube., The break went nearly all of the way around, and had I been riding, it could have been bad. I may be wrong, but I think Lance broke his DW Spot a few times, once before and once after the gusset was added. Rex, a member in our group, is on his 3rd DW Spot. Fact of the matter, stuff breaks. Knolly, Turner, Ventana, Yeti, Giant, Specialized, etc. You of all people should know SOMO eats bikes. In fairness, turner always took care of me.

    When I broke the Spot, I was lucky enough to talk to the man himself. He asked what I was riding, and I told him. He was less than thrilled, saying the Spot was not the right bike and should be on an RFX. One problem, there is no RFX. So he then said the Spot would be a stronger option than the old Spot, but he still would rather I be on an RFX. Dave knows the terrain here, and he knows what his bikes are capable of. I've said it before, and I will say it again, if something is going to break, it will break here.

    I have had the opportunity to ride DW Spots, Firebird, and Mojo HD, and I like the Knolly 4x4 better. I think it climbs tech better, and it certainly descends better, and just works with the way I ride.

    As for the 429, I had a greater expectations. Pivot, being a local company, should know better. Lots of people out there raving about them (as seen by how quickly it sold). There were a few glaring issues. The first, was the rear tire clearance. I could only fit a 2.0 or a small 2.1 on the back. The cable routing sucked, I couldn't get the DW dialed. A friend of mine who is a huge mini link fan, was blown away by how rough the bike rode. It felt like it had 2" of travel. His Jet 9 with 85mm of travel is significantly more plush. I expected more out of Pivot on that one, and it looks like the new carbon 429 may address the issues.

    It's all good....Merry Christmas. I hope you were able to get out today, SOMO was super quiet this morning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I guess I am not sure why anyone cares what I buy, but I can appreciate that Dave has guys out there shilling for him, I do the same for Knolly. It's a great sign for Dave. And it should be no big mystery what bike I'm getting, it will be here later this week or next

    Bobo feels the need the to keep brining up the breaking issue I had with my previous generation Endo. It's true, I cracked it a few times (never catastrophic I was never stranded), each time Knolly had me squared away. Noel has addressed the problem and the new frames are solid.

    Bobo, if it makes you feel any better, I broke my 06 RFX 4 times in 18 months. I first broke the seat stay in Flag. I then broke the main triangle at the taco. Shortly after that, I broke the chainstay at the CNC'd dropout, and finally the rockers. The dropout break required a nice long hike back to my car. After the RFX, I broke an 07 Spot. I broke the top tube right at head tube., The break went nearly all of the way around, and had I been riding, it could have been bad. I may be wrong, but I think Lance broke his DW Spot a few times, once before and once after the gusset was added. Rex, a member in our group, is on his 3rd DW Spot. Fact of the matter, stuff breaks. Knolly, Turner, Ventana, Yeti, Giant, Specialized, etc. You of all people should know SOMO eats bikes. In fairness, turner always took care of me.

    When I broke the Spot, I was lucky enough to talk to the man himself. He asked what I was riding, and I told him. He was less than thrilled, saying the Spot was not the right bike and should be on an RFX. One problem, there is no RFX. So he then said the Spot would be a stronger option than the old Spot, but he still would rather I be on an RFX. Dave knows the terrain here, and he knows what his bikes are capable of. I've said it before, and I will say it again, if something is going to break, it will break here.

    I have had the opportunity to ride DW Spots, Firebird, and Mojo HD, and I like the Knolly 4x4 better. I think it climbs tech better, and it certainly descends better, and just works with the way I ride.

    As for the 429, I had a greater expectations. Pivot, being a local company, should know better. Lots of people out there raving about them (as seen by how quickly it sold). There were a few glaring issues. The first, was the rear tire clearance. I could only fit a 2.0 or a small 2.1 on the back. The cable routing sucked, I couldn't get the DW dialed. A friend of mine who is a huge mini link fan, was blown away by how rough the bike rode. It felt like it had 2" of travel. His Jet 9 with 85mm of travel is significantly more plush. I expected more out of Pivot on that one, and it looks like the new carbon 429 may address the issues.

    It's all good....Merry Christmas. I hope you were able to get out today, SOMO was super quiet this morning.


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    Awesome post! Tons of info there. Thanks for sharing all of it.

    Agree that stuff breaks, how that is handled is the important thing. I have been consistent with that opinion.

    I am stuck in Tucson visiting family but wil ride tomorrow. Should be empty too.

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    Why do ya gotta go and muddy the water with all that logical thinking and facts. Bike purchases are all based on impulse and emotion. You should know that.

    While what you say may be true (and I do lust after the Burner...and would love to have a '12-'13 Spot with the slacker lower geometry and 142mm rear wheel spacing), I think the Chili is more versatile. I could take it from a 30 lb 5 Spot competitor with lighter wheels and air suspension to near-DT levels of gnar-competence with heavier wheels/tires and a 180 fork and it'd still be five lbs lighter than my DT.

    As much as I like my 5 Spot and as cool as the new Spot and Burner are, Dave still doesn't make a bike that will do that.
    Can't argue the fact that there is no 180 mm fork bike in the Turner line up.

    If you need that capability gotta go elsewhere. Sadly.

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    Or 1595 with the Turner for Turner deal. That's how I read it

    What is the link for the Turner to Turner deal?

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    Or 1595 with the Turner for Turner deal. That's how I read it

    What is the link for the Turner to Turner deal?
    I have inquired about the 'double dip' before I seem to remember. I dont think (at that time at least) you were allowed to do the $600 trade in on a sale frame? Maybe this time it is different, just dont be too surprised if its a no go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaggedEdge View Post
    Or 1595 with the Turner for Turner deal. That's how I read it

    What is the link for the Turner to Turner deal?
    Here you go

    Turner Bikes - Warranty/Trade

    Enjoy!

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