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    No more Horst Link-bummer...

    I've been wanting to get a 5 Spot and have always wanted a Made in USA Turner. Now I can get one and they aren't producing them because of the fees involved. I have always liked the Horst Link suspension because, imho, it is the only design where the suspension remains active while braking when traversing steep technical downhill sections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nydave
    I have always liked the Horst Link suspension because, imho....
    Yep. Your loss.

    Have you considered a Titus?
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    How about an Ellsworth
    Nothing to see here.

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    Perhaps an Ellsworth?

    Keep searching, I'm sure you'll find something that you can traverse those slopes with both utmost efficiency and confidence. The rest of us, well, we'll just have to keep suffering as we ascend and descend those slopes on the fall line with smiles on our faces.

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    beat to death

    In case you missed it, this subject's been beat to death. You can read all about the new design in the sticky thread:
    TNT Reviews...speculation free.

    Long story short, the concensus seems to be that the new design works great with no loss of performance.

    Enjoy.

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    Simple. Have an open mind and demo TNT Turner or simply seek out a used HL Turner.

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    Used bike vs new Titus...

    is something I've been pondering...my lbs gets Titus frames. I've been riding my 02 Spec. Stumpjumper since new...great bike. I'm looking to get a 5" "Made in USA" bike. Ellsworth is another option. I've read good things about the new Turners but I want to stick with the H.L.

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    Take a look at the profile. He rides a Specialized, so he obviously bought into the marketing hype they throw out there.

    Oddly enough, there's a Kona in the collection. Hmmmmm...

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    If "Made in the USA" is something you are looking for, then you might not want to look to Titus. Try a TNT, you may just like it.
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    Yes I do have a Stinky...lol

    Also a great bike. I don't think its all marketing hype. I've riden quite a few bikes, all have superior characteristics. Braking, when I need it sometimes on decents is important to me. I know its better to not hit brakes going down hill is better but sometimes i need to slow down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nydave
    Also a great bike. I don't think its all marketing hype. I've riden quite a few bikes, all have superior characteristics. Braking, when I need it sometimes on decents is important to me. I know its better to not hit brakes going down hill is better but sometimes i need to slow down.
    Once again, do a search for TNT and you will find all of the info you need. By the way, braking is not an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er
    If "Made in the USA" is something you are looking for, then you might not want to look to Titus. Try a TNT, you may just like it.
    I dunno. Is he trying to imply or disseminate wrong info by saying Turners are not American made?

    Last I checked, he is one of the few holdouts, profit margin be damned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Is he trying to imply or disseminate wrong info by saying Turners are not American made?
    No, he is trying to imply that Titus IS American Made, which is complete BS depending on model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    I dunno. Is he trying to imply or disseminate wrong info by saying Turners are not American made?

    Last I checked, he is one of the few holdouts, profit margin be damned.
    Not sure who you are refering to in the above post, I know Turners are American made. But Chris Cocalis has moved production of Moto-lites over seas. I also believe the 06 Racer-X is now also built over seas. All Ti and custom bikes are still produced in house. Not sure about the Super-Moto though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    No, he is trying to imply that Titus IS American Made, which is complete BS depending on model.
    Not if you ask the people on the Titus board, or depending on who answers the phone at Titus, as well as the photographer for the Arizona factory

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    No, he is trying to imply that Titus IS American Made, which is complete BS depending on model.
    Re-read my post
    I said if he was looking for 'Made in the USA" bike, then he might NOT want to look to Titus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Not if you ask the people on the Titus board, or depending on who answers the phone at Titus, as well as the photographer for the Arizona factory
    No kidding. My LBS is just down the road from the Titus factory and many of the Titus employees hang there after deliveries or just after work. Seems like a different version of the details are given every time I'm there.
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    Ok...

    just got done reading all the posts from the above link. Now I don't know what do do. Thanks for all the input...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nydave
    just got done reading all the posts from the above link. Now I don't know what do do. Thanks for all the input...lol

    Why are you so hesitant to try a TNT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er
    Not sure who you are refering to in the above post, I know Turners are American made. But Chris Cocalis has moved production of Moto-lites over seas. I also believe the 06 Racer-X is now also built over seas. All Ti and custom bikes are still produced in house. Not sure about the Super-Moto though.
    Supermoto is Taiwan, but they made a misleading factory tour flash thingie on their page a few months ago which strongly implied it was made in Arizona. Of course, the Titus board was there to throw some spin into it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Supermoto is Taiwan, but they made a misleading factory tour flash thingie on their page a few months ago which strongly implied it was made in Arizona. Of course, the Titus board was there to throw some spin into it
    I used to be a huge Titus supporter, being the local builder and all. Seems like they have gotten too big, and their product offering does not seem to be following the market. They are finally releasing a 6" AM bike. I will say the Titus HL is better than the Specialized HL. Bt the TNT is better than both
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    How about an Ellsworth
    That won't do for him. He only wants a HL.

    Remember TE went beyond HL, to his magical, mystical,mythical (invented from scratch) 100% efficient ICT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Works
    Remember TE went beyond HL, to his magical, mystical,mythical (invented from scratch) 100% efficient ICT.
    Yes, but Titus bikes corner like Ducatis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nydave
    just got done reading all the posts from the above link. Now I don't know what do do. Thanks for all the input...lol
    Perhaps the best way to resolve your quandry is to demo one. If your LBS doesn't have one to trail-test maybe ask around, or even post to see if there's a rider in your area who will do a loop with you and swap bikes. A lot of people are pretty cool about letting others try their bike during a ride... well maybe not everybody
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