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    New releases from Turner in 2013/14? Let the speculation begin

    What do you think Dave will come up with?

    Will the Sultan get a new design similar to the Flux?
    I have seen somewhere that he will release more carbon frames. What will the next carbon frame be? I am putting my money on a 29er trail carbon with 120-130 mm of travel. This seems to be the most popular one bike quiver for the moment and I would gladly put my money here.
    When will we see the releases? Interbike or Sea Otter next year or another time?

    Anyone have some Turner gossip :-)

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    Well there is the new 650b flux.
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    New 5spot 650 150-160mm!

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    Rfx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheatgerm View Post
    Rfx.
    RFX Carbon

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    RFX Carbon 29

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    DHR Carbon 29 :-D

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    Dhr 27.5

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    My choice would be to give the Sultan the Czar treatment.
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    The old "what have you done for me lately" syndrome. 650b Flux, new Burner, and Czar isn't enough!
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Any guesses as to the weight loss of 29er trail carbon Turner with 120-130 mm of travel vs the current Sultan? Maybe -450 grams?
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    130mm AM 29er. Something like the Banshee Prime. Carbon would be sweet too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danish Dynamite View Post
    What do you think Dave will come up with?

    I have seen somewhere that he will release more carbon frames.
    "More" carbon frames? Like hes already making some now? He wrote in another thread that he's got no plans for a carbon Burner. Bummah big time! Carbon Burner would've brought me back too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    "More" carbon frames? Like hes already making some now? He wrote in another thread that he's got no plans for a carbon Burner. Bummah big time! Carbon Burner would've brought me back too.
    The czar is carbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheatgerm View Post
    The czar is carbon.
    Cool, so Turner does have carbon but in an XC racer.

    I'll say again, if the Burner were carbon AND had a true tapered head tube, to me that would be the ultimate ride. I still dont get why the odd 44mm headtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    The old "what have you done for me lately" syndrome. 650b Flux, new Burner, and Czar isn't enough!
    my thoughts exactly; 3 of the 5 bikes in the lineup are new and people are expecting something else. I wouldn't hold my breath.

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    So DT has stated

    1. He's has another Carbon bike in development
    2. He sees the advantage of Carbon for racers trying to get the highest performance not on trail bikes

    Therefore he's made a XC race bike...

    Now I wonder what other (R)ace bikes does he make...?

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    The reason why I am asking is I have seen in an interview DT mentioning developing more than one carbon frame.
    The Sultan is a likely candidate to get an update similar to to the design which the Flux with weight saving and perhaps a new geometry.
    It has been quiet for some time before he released the three new bikes so I would not be suprised if we see something new within the next year.
    And I just really hope he releases a carbon trail 29er because that is where I would put my money :-)

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    I speculate that no one in this thread will guess the next new model.

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    Carbon Flux 275!

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    A Sultan in carbon with 17.4 inch stays would get my money for certain. Hell, a Sultan with 17.4 stays in aluminum would get my money.

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    Go ahead laugh, I would love to see Zero Spot. Titanium hard tail. With some some kind of cool artistic vibe. 29er flavor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoolie View Post
    Go ahead laugh, I would love to see Zero Spot. Titanium hard tail. With some some kind of cool artistic vibe. 29er flavor.

    Proud owner of new 5 spot.
    You know, I was just thinking how badass a Turner hard tail would be.

    Zero Spot...I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danish Dynamite View Post
    What do you think Dave will come up with?

    Will the Sultan get a new design similar to the Flux?
    I have seen somewhere that he will release more carbon frames. What will the next carbon frame be? I am putting my money on a 29er trail carbon with 120-130 mm of travel. This seems to be the most popular one bike quiver for the moment and I would gladly put my money here.
    When will we see the releases? Interbike or Sea Otter next year or another time?

    Anyone have some Turner gossip :-)

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    I would not expect another Spot. Right now, the 26" market looks pretty dead. Might be different next year, but I doubt that Turner would spend money on a new 26" frame.
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    The 26'' is not dead. Do some research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooleymtnbiker1 View Post
    The 26'' is not dead. Do some research.
    Huh? Show me one new 26er frame being released. If it ain't dead, it is going on life support...

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    2014 Stumpy Evo 26''. My thoughts are that 650B is a gimmick being forced upon us for no reason besides to generate profit. I'm getting off my soap box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooleymtnbiker1 View Post
    2014 Stumpy Evo 26''. My thoughts are that 650B is a gimmick being forced upon us for no reason besides to generate profit. I'm getting off my soap box.
    Specialized has no 27.5 I believe. Too many 29ers.

    Maybe a gimmick, but 26ers are fast becoming a rarity when it comes to new announcements. I'm still riding mine but the next new bike will have bigger wheels I would guess. Thinking 29er for my riding though.

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    Ibis just released the HDR in 26.
    I ride a 5-spot.
    Maybe a carbon 5-spot?
    29 is lame. They turn all tight singletrack into doubletrack...BOOO!
    Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

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    Let's look at this logically.

    Turner is a relatively small company. As such, capital and time is at a premium. CF bikes demand lots of both of these things.
    Turner can build bikes easily in US out of aluminum and these bikes cost considerably less when done this way , which is good for sales and R&D.

    The Czar was a way to get a huge bang for the R&D buck but IMO is more of a PR thing to restablish Turner as THE Racer's choice and raise the image a bit, which isn't really intended for all of us homers.

    The next CF bike will be for the homers and new customers who will now pay much more attention to Turner now that they are dabbling in CF.

    As much as I love them 26" wheel format is clearly heading to the dustbin.
    27.5 will pretty much replace them on full size bikes. 29" will be the "option" for those with the fitness and desire to wagon wheel everything.

    So my prediction?............CF Burner for debut at Interbike.
    Burner-Proven sales success, proven geometry success, new wheel size format, category is the new standard. Maybe a bump in travel to 6"? No brainer.
    I think new Flux could happen, Sultan later, but not yet. DHR--last in line. Burner is the new 5 Spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard2Catch View Post
    Ibis just released the HDR in 26.

    29 is lame. They turn all tight singletrack into doubletrack...BOOO!

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    Ibis just released the HDR IN 26" and 27.5"
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    Have you ridden any new school 29ers, i.e. Sb95, Enduro29, Satori or Prime?

    I'll guess not...
    I'd hit it, but I bruise like a peach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooleymtnbiker1 View Post
    The 26'' is not dead. Do some research.

    I happily own a 26" bike, but lets check back with you in a year.

    (My 29er rips too.)

    Specialized will follow suit (the market) eventually.
    I'd hit it, but I bruise like a peach.

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    Tapped out. With the Czar and the new Flux 275 this year we will not be doing any more introductions in 2013. Wish I could, I love new toys! 26" will never die, but it will never be a top seller again. It is off to the land of the jump and play bikes I think. My son has a Snafu 26 dirt jumper.... my daughter rides a small Highline on resort, both with 26 and that is about the extent of that wheel. There is little a 26 can do that a 27.5 can't do better for a mountain biker riding around the trails. Of course the downhillers will have to choose between 26 and 27.5 for different courses, but if you aint' fast enough to be sponsored you are slow enough (downhilling) to benefit from the 27.5 DH bikes that are no doubt right around the corner. Of course a pro will have to win on one in order for the masses to think they are cool enough. Just like roadies, all a company has to do is buy a winner and the customers will line up.

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    Sounds to me like "sell your Spot and get a Burner" period... LOL :-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by turnerbikes View Post
    Tapped out. With the Czar and the new Flux 275 this year we will not be doing any more introductions in 2013. Wish I could, I love new toys! 26" will never die, but it will never be a top seller again. It is off to the land of the jump and play bikes I think. My son has a Snafu 26 dirt jumper.... my daughter rides a small Highline on resort, both with 26 and that is about the extent of that wheel. There is little a 26 can do that a 27.5 can't do better for a mountain biker riding around the trails. Of course the downhillers will have to choose between 26 and 27.5 for different courses, but if you aint' fast enough to be sponsored you are slow enough (downhilling) to benefit from the 27.5 DH bikes that are no doubt right around the corner. Of course a pro will have to win on one in order for the masses to think they are cool enough. Just like roadies, all a company has to do is buy a winner and the customers will line up.
    So.....5 Spot will go to 275 or go away with a new 275 RFX replacement?
    Nothing to see here.

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    A new spot to be the new rfx. Wheel size and material to be determined? Next year maybe? I like my spot didn't really care for 29rs I have rode. I'd like to give a burner a shot though.

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    SSinGa the Burner IS the new 5 Spot. Never saw that coming or we woulda changed the wheels and not the name, thought they would both have a following. Nope, the mass forumotional hysteria and press push killed the 26. And why not? After one has ridden a new Flux the old one feels seriously lacking, there really is no comparison. A little bigger wheel has a really big impact on rolling, duh. But one does not have to go 29 and the total personality change of that to get some of the benefits. One thing that a 275 has over 29 is that one can really 'over tire' it and the impact is nowhere near the perceptible change of overtiring a 29, i.e. a 150 gram heavier tire is hardly notable on a 26, you can feel it on a 27.5 and on 29 the first few miles are like F(*$&*# this thing is a pig. 27.5 is the new black.

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    Sounds like a 27.5 DHR might be the next Turner project?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnerbikes View Post
    the Burner IS the new 5 Spot....27.5 is the new black.
    Hate to see the 5Spot go, I LOVE mine!! But all things change. Never ridden the 27.5 format, but it looks like I will plenty of opportunity once my Spot gives up the ghost. When that day comes I will be looking forward to throwing a leg over whatever format DT has in his stalls.

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    Hahahahaha, no DHR in carbon OR 275 or the combo of the two planned. Of course if it were me that won the PowerBall lottery, we would have a batch in 18 months.

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    So are any 5 Spots still available? Med. in black?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnerbikes View Post
    Of course if it were me that won the PowerBall lottery, we would have a batch in 18 months.
    And if I hit the Lottery, I'd be ordering up a Burner for Shuttle/Resort type stuff!

    I've got to say though, I've yet to ride anything the Czar cannot handle just fine. May have been designed as a race bike, but man, it's an awesome trail bike too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooleymtnbiker1 View Post
    The 26'' is not dead. Do some research.
    Well, based on current resale, yes, it is. We, the bike obsessed public have killed it. The fact that we want 29ers or 27.5ers, and not 26ers is what has killed it, not the bike mfg's. We want the newest, even though what we have is pretty fricken sweet.

    26 was fun, but I'm drinking the 29er Kool-aide!! And it's good!

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    DHRacer there is only one medium 5 Spot left, and it is blue. Here is the total stock of Spots at this moment.

    Sm ORANGE FRONT TRI x 3
    XL ORANGE FRONT TRI x 8

    XL BLACK FRONT TRI x 2

    Sm BLUE FRONT TRI x 1
    Md BLUE FRONT TRI x 1
    Lrg BLUE FRONT TRI x 12
    XL BLUE FRONT TRI x 3

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    RFX is the one i'm waitin for. Aluminum is fine wid me with 650 wheel.

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    Well said Yamaman.

    If ya'll knew the trail of RFX tears I would never be without a beer. To date there has been 4 swings and misses, my arms are tired from warming up and striking out. The most recent was pulled when it was obvious that 26 was dead. Full freakin project killed and we were holding a sample in hand and realized it would be cheaper?WTF?? to kill it at that point the to produce a 26" wheeled anything. Glad you guys are not holding your breath, I am sure by now everyone would have passed out haha. The GOOD thing? When we finally connect the market will be bigger than ever with the enduro racing buzz getting riders jacked on more travel, bigger bars and fat tires. Nothing soon though...

    DT

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    New releases from Turner in 2013/14? Let the speculation begin

    I'm predicting the rebirth of the 140mm travel segment (with 27.5/650B wheels of course). Look at what the moustache king himself Steve Smith used to win the Fox DH Air on - a 140mm travel frame with a 160mm fork, 27.5 etc. plus there is a great video of a 140mm Knolly ruling it on pikebike.

    Fortunately for TurnerBikes this IS the Burner, and in the future would be well complemented by a Carbon version. This segment along with the Enduro (150-165mm travel), and the Flux 125mm is the perfect hat-trick to cover the 27.5 segment, notwithstanding the DHR being its own segment.

    Put a wide bar and short stem on your Burner or 5.Spot TODAY and enjoy the future....

    My ride is - 2010 5.Spot, 160mm Lyrik, 800mm 35mm bar, 50mm stem, flows, damp's, 2x10. Kills in the Alps, and is just plain fun on the local flattish technical trails. Had planned to cut the bar down a bit but it seams to work fine at 800, plus my controls are quite inboard so I move my hands out for the downs, and inwards when it gets technical.

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    Curiosity

    So I had a chance to ride a Bronson back to back with my Spot today. My friend and I both ride a medium and weight about the same. I built his bike so the fork and shock settings are identical to mine.

    My first observation is obvious, the 27.5 is slightly bigger side by side and once you hop on it, you know it's taller than the 26...

    My friend borrow me his bike half of the ride today and here's what I observed. On the first ride, I noticed that all the hype about the better roll-ability, nimbleness and flickability of a 26'er, etc. etc are true. I have to agree even though I don't like to. I still don't want to let go of my favorite 26'ers.

    After a while on board the Bronson, I almost forgot that I am on a 27.5 as it ride just like a 26 that is slightly better. I could imagine the Burner as a better and improved Spot...

    If I need to build a new bike? Will I get a Burner and sell my Spot? I dont know, the slight improvement seems not that justifiable to my preference...
    Will I get the Czar instead? will definitely Yes as quick as my LBS can give me a deal and delivery timeline.

    This is just my personal observation as I am still loving my Spot...
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    RFX 650 b is d one I'm waitin, aluminum is fine.

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