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    New Pack P0rn

    Finally replaced my long lost (sold it to a friend last year) RFX, Just built her up last week! Already torture tested on a 26 mile, lava & root infested trail behind Mount Bachelor, all I can say is this bike is FUN to ride!!! I'm not really a big fan of Fox forks, but the new 36 Van RC2 is pure sex on the trail, feels as good as any Z1 I have ever had or ridden, even better! The biggest plus for me concerning this fork are the adjustments, which I generally hate having too many to mess with, especially when the adjustments don't do much, but having read the instructions, & dialing in the fork, it actually works awsome! Even the minor tweaks are felt. Haven't hit any big drops yet, but jumping through high speed rock gardens on this sled feels pretty close to the DH bike as far as performance & tracking.
    One thing that does need too much attention is the DHX air, not impressive, I have tried almost everything to get this shock not to blow through it's travel, still testing...thankfully I got the coil version as well, which works awsome ; )

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    damn sexy! how are you liking the SRAM and Juicy componentry (unlees my eyes aren't seeing it correctly)?

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    Nice!

    Is that two DHRs and a Spot in the background?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    One thing that does need too much attention is the DHX air, not impressive, I have tried almost everything to get this shock not to blow through it's travel, still testing...
    Great looking Pack! There are several Homers running the DHX Air on their Packs who absolutely swear by them and prefer them to the DHX Coil. I rode tscheezy's for a bit and immediately ordered one up from Larry @ Mnt. High. Perform a couple of searches to find the threads, some fairly recent, on the Turner board dealing with setup and you might find what you need to dial it in. Congrats on the new ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baycat
    damn sexy! how are you liking the SRAM and Juicy componentry (unlees my eyes aren't seeing it correctly)?
    SRAM is where it's at, never go back to Shimano again! Funny, first time I tried the triggers, took all of 15 minutes to get used to & love them, & I've been on Shimano since day one, now if I get on Shimano equipped bike, the shifting just does not feel natural to me.

    And the Juicy 7's are awsome, especially with the 185 (7") rotors ; ) !

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkullCrack
    Nice!

    Is that two DHRs and a Spot in the background?
    Yep, Busted ; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashTheDOG
    Great looking Pack! There are several Homers running the DHX Air on their Packs who absolutely swear by them and prefer them to the DHX Coil. I rode tscheezy's for a bit and immediately ordered one up from Larry @ Mnt. High. Perform a couple of searches to find the threads, some fairly recent, on the Turner board dealing with setup and you might find what you need to dial it in. Congrats on the new ride.
    Thanks for the tip on the air, I like the shock when climbing & flowing turns & such, but it seams to get weak half way through the travel??

    I'll check out some of the posts.

    BTW, I weight 195-205 with gear & ride aggressively, for anyone who has a suggestion (I would send it to Darren @ PUSH, but he want's nothing to do with it ; )

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    Hey Stu! how you two doing up there? Garage looks good - filled with fine bikes (and hows the rest of the former socal crew?)

    Bike looks tasty, I have a new 5 Spot that should be built in a week or two (with DHX air, El Caminos, SRAM), looking forward to it....

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    The Darren

    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    (I would send it to Darren @ PUSH, but he want's nothing to do with it ; )
    Dude, it's all about The Darren. Send it to The Darren, then have El Jefe talk to The Darren, and that should take care of it. Although The Darren is all mighty, when El Jefe speaks, The Darren listens.

    Nice bike, BTW. ;-)

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    F'n Roadie!

    You F'n closet roadie!


    BeefStu, I rode Mt. Ashland 2 weeks ago. It cooked my brain!


    Oh Yeah....nice pack!
    What the EFF is "All MOUNTAIN"???

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    Thanks for the tip on the air, I like the shock when climbing & flowing turns & such, but it seams to get weak half way through the travel??

    I'll check out some of the posts.

    BTW, I weight 195-205 with gear & ride aggressively, for anyone who has a suggestion (I would send it to Darren @ PUSH, but he want's nothing to do with it ; )
    Try turning the BO adj knob full in and add about 160psi. Use 225psi in the main to start and go up from there. I'm 215lbs and run mine at 270psi - it feels just like the coil it replaced.
    Nothing to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Try turning the BO adj knob full in and add about 160psi. Use 225psi in the main to start and go up from there. I'm 215lbs and run mine at 270psi - it feels just like the coil it replaced.
    Doesn't it feel extremely harsh with that much boost pressure? I can't imagine how people are riding it like that. Feels like crap when you go through rough stuff with that much boost, at least to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrahMa
    Dude, it's all about The Darren. Send it to The Darren, then have El Jefe talk to The Darren, and that should take care of it. Although The Darren is all mighty, when El Jefe speaks, The Darren listens.

    Nice bike, BTW. ;-)
    C'mon now, first it was Santa Claus, then the Easter Bunny, now the Darren, all three are just figments of the imagination, yet all three still, somehow, deliver cool stuff??.

    Yeah, bike is nice, but then again, you know this (the trusty old RFX is still in operation, yes??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    Doesn't it feel extremely harsh with that much boost pressure? .
    Not with my fat Arse at the controls - feels like buttah!
    Nothing to see here.

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    Nice looking build Stu! I just built up a medium Pack myself last week that's one burly little beast weighing in at 39.6 lbs with a DH wheelset. Part of the high weight comes from the Z150 fork, but you ran one on your RFX and totally ripped with that setup.

    The Pack handles soooo nice, and yeah, it's one fun bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    You F'n closet roadie!


    BeefStu, I rode Mt. Ashland 2 weeks ago. It cooked my brain!


    Oh Yeah....nice pack!
    Ha ha!! Nice to see ya made it up here before the cold stuff hit (it was 32 outside this morning!) Haven't made it to Ashland yet, but hopefully headed out to Oakridge this weekend.

    Roadie?? (Busted...again; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    Doesn't it feel extremely harsh with that much boost pressure? I can't imagine how people are riding it like that. Feels like crap when you go through rough stuff with that much boost, at least to me.
    Nope; I run high boost as well. It doesn't make the ride harsh at all for me. The only time my dhx-a approached anything resembling harsh was with too much psi in the spring chamber.
    Inkpad, sweeeeeet lookin pack. Give your shock a chance; try SSINGA's suggested starting point and fiddle from there. I have got to get me a new drivetrain, yours looks fine!
    What have you got for wheels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    Already torture tested on a 26 mile, lava & root infested trail behind Mount Bachelor, !
    Newberry Crater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Nope; I run high boost as well. It doesn't make the ride harsh at all for me. The only time my dhx-a approached anything resembling harsh was with too much psi in the spring chamber.
    Inkpad, sweeeeeet lookin pack. Give your shock a chance; try SSINGA's suggested starting point and fiddle from there. I have got to get me a new drivetrain, yours looks fine!
    What have you got for wheels?
    I will definetly try SSINGA's suggestion, I am running 240 in the main & 125 in the Boost with 1 click as of now.

    The wheels are Mavic 721's on Hadley hubs, but I am swapping out the rims for either the 819 or the new, 06 823' tubeless rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM
    Newberry Crater?
    Nope, Edison Lava, with Knowl Butte thrown in for extra credit ; )

    One of the only trails I have ridden here in Bend where the downhill portion could be used as a DH race, let-er rip!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by macrider
    Hey Stu! how you two doing up there? Garage looks good - filled with fine bikes (and hows the rest of the former socal crew?)

    Bike looks tasty, I have a new 5 Spot that should be built in a week or two (with DHX air, El Caminos, SRAM), looking forward to it....
    Love it up here, riding is incredible! Just starting to get cold, winter is coming (27 last night, 45 now)!

    Everyone is doing well out here, even the Sven, in PT, getting stronger every day!

    Of course the gal is doing well, hasn't had to work, just ride & decorate the pad ; )

    A couple pics of the trail we rode last Sat, 11 mile out, 11 back, plus extra credit off shoots & stuff to play on!
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    Lol

    The Darren......One of the funniest forum threads ever.....gotta love Socal MTB. I alomost miss the OC just thinking about it.....wait, no I don't. Colorado Baby!!!!!

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    Yep, still in action.

    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    C'mon now, first it was Santa Claus, then the Easter Bunny, now the Darren, all three are just figments of the imagination, yet all three still, somehow, deliver cool stuff??.

    Yeah, bike is nice, but then again, you know this (the trusty old RFX is still in operation, yes??)
    The trusty old RFX got a little upgrade in the way of a 6" AM1 up front, so it is my 6x6 trail bike, much like what you've got there, 'cept for I'm still running the good old Romic, just to be old school. ;-)

    Here's a crappy photo of the latest iteration.

    Come to think of it, I've got a lot of old school stuff on this '00 relic. '98 XT cranks (square taper, gasp!), 8spd all around, not to mention my trusty kevlar Serfas ARC saddle. That's one of Dusty's personal faves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    like the shock when climbing & flowing turns & such, but it seams to get weak half way through the travel?
    Yup. I agree. My thoughts exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    The Darren......One of the funniest forum threads ever.....gotta love Socal MTB. I alomost miss the OC just thinking about it.....wait, no I don't. Colorado Baby!!!!!
    The Darren.. Myth? Or reality?

    Just like Charlie of Charlie's Angels, there, but not really there, only no good looking chicks, just shock shafts & squirting lube ; )

    Yeah, miss the OC as well....

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    Aqua...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic


    BeefStu, I rode Mt. Ashland 2 weeks ago. It cooked my brain!

    Dude, seriously, is everything all about you? ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    The Darren.. Myth? Or reality?

    Just like Charlie of Charlie's Angels, there, but not really there, only no good looking chicks, just shock shafts & squirting lube .
    What? Have you seen his new receptionist?
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    DHX Air

    Word on the street is that "inkpad" has been spending a little too much time at the local microbrew pub and possibly "6 Packed" on a couple extra lb's......Could this be the real reason for the lack of performance out of the DHX-Air?

    I'm not calling you fat or anything............Just living the good life!

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    You bringing the Pack to SGC next year? I had an awesome time on mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    Word on the street is that "inkpad" has been spending a little too much time at the local microbrew pub and possibly "6 Packed" on a couple extra lb's......Could this be the real reason for the lack of performance out of the DHX-Air?

    I'm not calling you fat or anything............Just living the good life!
    Trying to PUSH my buttons there buddy? I'm phat, what can I say (actually lost 5 lbs somewhere in the last two weeks & can't seem to find em?)

    Ahhhh, Beer!

    Bend Brew Co....3 miles away
    Cascade Brewing Co....2.5 miles away
    Deschutes Brewery....3 miles away
    McMenamines Brew Pub...2 miles away

    Shall I go on???? ; )

    Beer rules, mountain biking is played....

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    I weight 195-205 with gear & ride aggressively, for anyone who has a suggestion...
    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Try turning the BO adj knob full in and add about 160psi. Use 225psi in the main to start and go up from there. I'm 215lbs and run mine at 270psi - it feels just like the coil it replaced.
    I'm 180# w/o gear and ride about 240psi main chamber, 135psi boost, BO half way in, some pp and rebound damping. In Moab, doing much bigger drops than I do at home, I had to go up to 270psi main chamber (and left the rest alone) for bottoming resistance. I don't like to go above 150psi boost because the shock gets kind of harsh, and below 130psi it seems too active for my taste. There is a very narrow window imo.

    I agree the shock uses more of it's stroke on a given hit with the same basic sag and setup as the DHX Coil, but that's why I like it. It's plush but still pedals better than the coil (of which I have two). I can't see how people who ride hard and weigh over 200# could run the Air though. The main spring pressures needed would be at the max psi for the shock (300?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    Finally replaced my long lost (sold it to a friend last year) RFX, Just built her up last week! Already torture tested on a 26 mile, lava & root infested trail behind Mount Bachelor, all I can say is this bike is FUN to ride!!! I'm not really a big fan of Fox forks, but the new 36 Van RC2 is pure sex on the trail, feels as good as any Z1 I have ever had or ridden, even better! The biggest plus for me concerning this fork are the adjustments, which I generally hate having too many to mess with, especially when the adjustments don't do much, but having read the instructions, & dialing in the fork, it actually works awsome! Even the minor tweaks are felt. Haven't hit any big drops yet, but jumping through high speed rock gardens on this sled feels pretty close to the DH bike as far as performance & tracking.
    One thing that does need too much attention is the DHX air, not impressive, I have tried almost everything to get this shock not to blow through it's travel, still testing...thankfully I got the coil version as well, which works awsome ; )

    Cheers!
    If I see one more wink on this thread I'm going to freaking hurl. Gnarly tattooe'd Dh'ers don't ride road bikes and throw winks at other dudes!

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    good stuff

    your lady must know OPP's - must be nice to move somewhere and have nothing to do but decorate the big new house and go ride...

    trails look tasty - Oregon is going to have to get on the short-list for next year's trips - let the Cartel know when the snow goes away and the trails are dry and ready to go...

    good news about Sven - give him & A and your lady and everyone my best...

    I was going to sell my RFX frame, but Tam & Brahma talked me outta of it on last weekend's 40+ mile flog....more bikes, not less!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    You F'n closet roadie!

    Oh Yeah....nice pack!
    He's actually a <b><i>singlespeeder</i></b>. I kid you not. Focker dropped me big time up Old Camp on his SS... when I was fit!

    ...and yeah - nice bike Stu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    What? Have you seen his new receptionist?
    Really? Now I AM going to pick up my re-pushed shock in person!

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    [QUOTE=Dusty Bottoms]If I see one more wink on this thread I'm going to freaking hurl. Gnarly tattooe'd Dh'ers don't ride road bikes and throw winks at other dudes!


    Thanks DB, point taken, will lay off the wink key from now on!

    Gotta uphold my gnarly image after all, even up here in patchouli land (I think there are a couple of red-necks left in Oregon, somewhere?)











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    Quote Originally Posted by macrider
    good stuff

    your lady must know OPP's - must be nice to move somewhere and have nothing to do but decorate the big new house and go ride...

    trails look tasty - Oregon is going to have to get on the short-list for next year's trips - let the Cartel know when the snow goes away and the trails are dry and ready to go...

    good news about Sven - give him & A and your lady and everyone my best...

    I was going to sell my RFX frame, but Tam & Brahma talked me outta of it on last weekend's 40+ mile flog....more bikes, not less!
    I'll keep you informed of all trail conditions as they progress, AND, by next year, we may have the Winoga freeride park complete (yep, legal & all) but there are always the secret shuttle spots as well...

    I'll wish all well for ya...& yes, keep the RFX

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminaut
    He's actually a <b><i>singlespeeder</i></b>. I kid you not. Focker dropped me big time up Old Camp on his SS... when I was fit!

    ...and yeah - nice bike Stu.

    C'mon, you let me win!

    (and if you look closely, you might see an On One Inbred S/S on the wall?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    Love it up here, riding is incredible! Just starting to get cold, winter is coming (27 last night, 45 now)!

    Everyone is doing well out here, even the Sven, in PT, getting stronger every day!

    Of course the gal is doing well, hasn't had to work, just ride & decorate the pad ; )

    A couple pics of the trail we rode last Sat, 11 mile out, 11 back, plus extra credit off shoots & stuff to play on!
    Hey inkpad, I passed you on my way up from Lava Lake that day. I think I said something Homerish about the bike as we passed. Here's some more pics from the day: Bend ride Saturday 10/22 (Bach-Lava-Eddy)

    Welcome to Bend.
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    STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

    man long time no speak! Glad to see you back on the Turner(s) again - hear you were toying with the big "I" for a while?

    Nice pack! Also nice stable - is that also an on-one SS? now that's gnar-core!

    Glad everything is going well up in Bend! I'll have to go up and visit one of these days!

    take care and enjoy the new ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    C'mon, you let me win!

    (and if you look closely, you might see an On One Inbred S/S on the wall?)
    Your wall (and entire garage) is way too sterile for me to look closely!!! LOL. ...Nice variety of rides, and the On-One seems really fitting for ya.

    Glad to see things are going well, and say hi to the missus for me.

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    No good

    That's the bike I'd build for my queer, spastic, bed-wetting little brother, if I had one.

    Looks good on you, tho. Seriously, looks really sweet!

    oh, since you're obviously too fat to use the dhx air, I'll take it off your hands for $35.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadian
    STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

    man long time no speak! Glad to see you back on the Turner(s) again - hear you were toying with the big "I" for a while?

    Nice pack! Also nice stable - is that also an on-one SS? now that's gnar-core!

    Glad everything is going well up in Bend! I'll have to go up and visit one of these days!

    take care and enjoy the new ride!
    Heyyyyy now!

    Yep, everything is going really good out here, yeah, hopped on the "I" for a bit, but not for long!

    Anytime you get the urge, come on up, we have PLENTY of room(s)

    & yes, that's an On One SS, perfect bike for the lower trails out here!

    Till next time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2w4s
    That's the bike I'd build for my queer, spastic, bed-wetting little brother, if I had one.

    He still lives with you, doesn't he??

    Looks good on you, tho. Seriously, looks really sweet!

    oh, since you're obviously too fat to use the dhx air, I'll take it off your hands for $35.
    $36.50

    BTW, nice Cowan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tberg
    Hey inkpad, I passed you on my way up from Lava Lake that day. I think I said something Homerish about the bike as we passed. Here's some more pics from the day: Bend ride Saturday 10/22 (Bach-Lava-Eddy)

    Welcome to Bend.
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    Blue Turner, right?

    That was the maiden voyage for the Pack & that trail, it was not the best climber, especially with the 6" Fox fork, but you can imagine what it felt like on the descents!

    Nice to see someone else was enjoying that day as well, perfect weather for a ride, eh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    Finally replaced my long lost......which works awsome ; )

    Cheers!
    Is this a small case of sellers remorse????

    FYI, Biff has only ridden your RFX once since he moved back to SLO.

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