Maxxis Ardent 2.4 vs. Minion DHF 2.5 EXO [x-post wheels and tires]
How do these tires compare volume wise?
I'm pretty set on using the 2.5 DHF EXO up front, and am looking for something that rolls faster for the rear, preferably with the EXO casing which apparently the 2.4 Ardent has.
Can't speak for the 26er flavor but the 29er 2.4 Ardent has more volume than DHF's I've run in the past, rolls better too
Too bad Aqua won't post on the homer board He had the 2.5 DHF prototypes on his RFX and runs the 2.4 Ardents on his 29ers.
From bholwell's (Maxxis rep) response on Wheels and Tires
"There is a version of the 2.25 Ardent with Exo-Protection. It's also available with a regular 60 tpi casing.
The full list of Exo tires to date:
Ardent 26x2.4 single ply
Minion DHF 26x2.5 single ply
Minion DHF 26x2.5 3C single ply
The 2.4 Ardent is at least as big as the 2.5 Minion... prolly a abit bigger.
"If it didn't hurt when you screw up, it wouldn't be half as exciting when you dont." cdburch
Here are some measurements:
2.4 Ardent on Flow rims: 59.5mm (casing) / 61mm (outer knobs) 850g
2.5 Minion DHF EXO on DT 5.1 rims: 56mm (casing) / 60mm (outer knobs) 900g
The Minion DHF have much more assertive cornering as a rear tire and braking as a rear tire especially in loose over hardpack conditions. Also, I find Ardents to wear very fast as a rear tire in demanding conditions. I use a 2.4 Ardent as a front tire on my trail bike but for more downhill performance I will switch to 2.5 Minion DHF front and rear.
Also, the 2.4 Ardent has a pretty stout casing, even without the EXO sidewall protection. I run the 2.4 Ardent in the front tubeless and have never sliced it open, while the 2.25 Ardent only lasted me a few rides before I sliced a sidewall.
On the DH bike it's not even a question. Ardents never go up front and in the rear they last only a few days of riding.
Hey, I'm not a rep!
Originally Posted by AndyN
Tire Design & Development Engineer. The opinions expressed in this forum are solely my own.
The 2.4 Ardent is noticeably bigger than a 2.5 DHF Exo. The DHF is a much tougher tire, at least here in AZ rocky conditions. I love the 2.4 Ardents, but can't keep them alive in the rear.
Originally Posted by nybike1971
Having seen the same tire mounted up to these two rims side-by-side, I can say that the rim selection plays a MAJOR role in the size/width of the tire. I was shocked how much bigger the tire looked on the Stan's Flow.
I 've used both front and rear. I did notice even with a simmiler casing width the Ardent (as well as the ADvantage) 2.4 is taller than the Minion 2.5.
As expected the Ardent has less braking grip in the greese.
Overall I prefer to run the Minion DHF front and rear. Mostly change in rolling resistance I only noticed on super smooth hard pack or road.
I ended up with a 2.25 Ardent EXO out back, it is about the same height as the 2.5 Minion DHF 3C EXO up front, but quite a bit narrower.
No complaints with the Ardent so far, it rolls fast and hooks up well for a small knob tire.