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    lightweight bash ring

    I currently run a 22_32_44 crankset and barely never use the big ring. I am contemplating running a 34-36-bash combo.

    The thing is that my spot is on the light side and I would like to keep it that way.

    So, here goes the silly question:
    What is among the lightes bash guard on the market? I won't get the MRP carbon because it sounds silly to me.

    E13? Envy? Race face? MRP? Salsa?
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    My Favourates are raceface




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    not sure they are the lightest though.

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    I think I like the E13 better but I wonder how the transparent one ages.
    Not sure it is the wisest choice.
    Imight go for the black one:



    The envy sounds cool though

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    Bash guards

    I've just got myself an E13 one. I wouldn't describe it as light at all!

    I had originally planned to go for a 40tooth larger ring instead, but it was failing to turn up so I put on a bash guard instead.

    Not really learnt to use the bash guard properly yet, but I guess it's a new skill to learn.

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    The lightest I believe are the Spot brand :
    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...?category=1372

    or the Gamut bash rings. But I don't think Gamut sells them separately from their
    chainguides, but they seem friendly enough to give you a special deal if you email them.
    They are 1/8" thin which are thinner than the 5mm racefaces. http://www.gamutusa.com/g25.html
    Their P20 rings are polycarbonate, and are supposed to take a good beating and are very light
    too.

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    Awesome, Fluid.
    Thanks a bunch, I'm gonna look into those.
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    Saint.

    Dirt cheap too. (althoough only covers a 34T)

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    The FS is light and has worked well. Not sure if they have on that will work with a 36t middle ring.
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    what about paper?

    or cardboard?

    or simply not using any sort of big ring... you said you don't ever hit or use your big ring, so what's the worry?

    the Evil / E13 is overbuilt for people who actually FREQUENTLY bash their bash guard. for simply covering the outer ring spot it's MASSIVE overkill and a huge chunk of rotating weight that is better spent elsewhere.

    I like the Race Face and FSA models, they're pretty danged light and still will protect your middle ring.

    the BlackSpire Ring God is about halfway between the FSA / RF style and the E13 brute.

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    The Gamut polycarb is the lightest "bash" ring I've come across.
    The spot alu is lighter but is really more of a chain ring protector than a true bash ring. I'd only use the Spot on a single speed or XC rig.
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    Gonzo does make a point, the E-13 is HUGE and crazy-strong.
    I cut my 34T Supercharger down for a 32T ring.


    The standard 34T BG OD reaches out to the base of the teeth on a 44T ring. That's DH high-speed full on slamming kind of equipment. For trail riding I've been able to trim it save some weight and gain some clearance. I beat the heck out of it and have had no problems. The clear ages well, It stays clear. jpg compression makes the pic above look hazy but its actually quite clear. You may have to take it off and clean off the schmutz on the inside if you want it to look clear long term. Chain lube type would dictate how often you might want to do that. If you want to keep it pretty, it's easy to file and polish out the dings if you're a rare rocker. I bash crap hard every ride. I love the way it slides off stuff.
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    FWIW the 36t Race Face is about 175 g (I weighed one recently). I've read that the E-13 is more like 300 g.

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    Fsa

    I have an FSA that came on their free ride cranks that I put on a XC weight crankset that is pretty light, compact and has steel inserts which seem pretty cool.

    Why not get out the grinder and sit way out in the back yard and just grind the teeth off a 42 that is already trashed untill it is nice and compact. Cheap and light!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnerbikes
    I have an FSA that came on their free ride cranks that I put on a XC weight crankset that is pretty light, compact and has steel inserts which seem pretty cool.

    Why not get out the grinder and sit way out in the back yard and just grind the teeth off a 42 that is already trashed untill it is nice and compact. Cheap and light!
    Thanks DT I like the decond idea.

    My LBS showed my Shaman racing carbon bash weighed at 80 grams. It is dope. I don't intend to grind on it but simply to protect from projections.So ti might do the job.And I'll grind the 42 as a back-up.
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    I run the Salsa "Trials" ring...

    And I'm quite happy with it. The teeth have actually helped show some trail love to a few logs I've been intimate with.



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    Ghetto bashring as quoted by DT:



    I like the salsa a lot but I doubt it fits the light weight criteria.
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    i have a clear plastic FSA bashgaurd im pretty happy with. cant find it on their site but its cheap lite and pretty bling looking too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    The Gamut polycarb is the lightest "bash" ring I've come across.
    Yup, it's pretty darn light and strong.
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    my redneck "bashring"



    I made it as a joke, but now I'm wondering how it will hold up. I figure its got one good "bash" in it

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    That was pretty quick Bling. Good work man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    That was pretty quick Bling. Good work man.
    It's not mine. A buddy of mine send me that pic to see the final result.
    I will do that as a back-up but it's not compact enough to my taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    The standard 34T BG OD reaches out to the base of the teeth on a 44T ring. That's DH high-speed full on slamming kind of equipment. For trail riding I've been able to trim it save some weight and gain some clearance.
    FWIW, E13 now offers a 32T BG so there's no need to trim anymore.

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    Do they have it now? They always had it in their catalog but when I called them (a year+ ago) they weren't stocking them and had none on schedule.
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    I'm pretty sure I've got a 32T on the Pack right now. I'll double check in the morning, but I ordered it after specifcally asking Larry if E13 had a 32 yet.

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    It sounds pretty darned likely that's what it is. (32T)
    Just curious when you check could you tell me the OD? I wonder how it compares to the 34T BG.
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    The Gamut is really growing on me. I like it a lot, the only drawback being that since I intend putting a 26-36 I'm gonna have to get the p40 instead of the p20.
    Plus no official dealer in France...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bling
    I will do that as a back-up but it's not compact enough to my taste.
    A few years ago I did just as DT had suggested for my Spot. I call it BG lite, as it really wasn't meant for bashing into rocks, more for added clearance while trying to roll over logs. A stock 42T RaceFace ring with the teeth removed is about the perfect size and seems plenty stout for that duty. Check out the profile shot, it's just large enough to protect the chain. Much more compact and it wouldn't take the initial hit. This might work for ya until you decide on a true basher.

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    Blackspire has a great, light 36 tooth capable bash guard - "Ring god"
    A quick check shows it weighs 90gr as compared to 140gr for the raceface.
    Good success with it so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    It sounds pretty darned likely that's what it is. (32T)
    Just curious when you check could you tell me the OD? I wonder how it compares to the 34T BG.
    I went through the whole thing with e13 late last summer on the smaller guard that they allegedly make. They as much as said, "don't hold your breath." So I'm curious too. Anyway, I predict that you will be more satisfied with your ground -down ring anyway. They will probably make the business part of the new guard just as deep as the business part of the next bigger one. You have already proved that you don't need that much plastic for normal trail use, and you've saved a significant amount of weight. Yes, those suckers are HEAVY. I don't remember what the before and after stats were for mine when I gave it the Zilla treatment, but I want to say it was only about 2/3 as heavy after the machine shop got done with it. (I don't have the tools and skills to do it myself. I know because I trashed the first one trying.) ... And I agree with you that it's nice the way it slides over logs in a way that the metal ones don't. (I had the tooth fairy - now Salsa - before and it did protect the chainring teeth but half the time you end up stuck on the log anyway.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikezilla
    Just curious when you check could you tell me the OD? I wonder how it compares to the 34T BG.
    Without taking it off of the cranks, I can't find any indication of its size. But the OD is 6" spot on.

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    I've been running an FSA 32T clear bash guard - thinner and lighter than an E13 but still strong. They also make it in a 36T size, too.

    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...50&category=58

    <img src=http://my.raex.com/~deoreo/Reign5.jpg>
    <img src=http://my.raex.com/~deoreo/Reign6.jpg>

    Photos not of a Turner Also from when it was new - it has since been dirtied up, real good, and still cleans up real nice.
    Has taken a few good hits, and still looks like nothing has touched it

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    I finally chose the Gamut, excellent service, quick sending and very helpful people. Two thumbs up for them.



    I went for the 40 size as I am running a 36 now and a 38 in the mountains.
    Looks great and weighted at 115 grammes for a 40 size, that's not bad at all!
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    Slick Mr B. Let us know how it works out.

    Crash, Thanks for the measurements... 6" means it's pretty much the same OD as my cut one. Now I know I can get a replacement w/o breaking out the rotozip.

    I like that FSA one Deoreo's sporting... very nice. Nice color on that Rein too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bling
    I went for the 40 size as I am running a 36 now and a 38 in the mountains.
    Looks great and weighted at 115 grammes for a 40 size, that's not bad at all!
    What make is your 36 tooth chainring? I've just tried a Blackspire Superpro but it kept on dumping my 9spd chain when going up techy bits.

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    just a crappy FSA to test ride to make sur 36 is fit.

    Did you try to shorten your chain length? This might do the trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bling
    just a crappy FSA to test ride to make sur 36 is fit.

    Did you try to shorten your chain length? This might do the trick.
    Yup, shortened the chain to fit. It wasn't like bouncing the chain off going downhill, I think more that the chain just didn't "sit" properly and would pop off just when I needed it most going up steps etc. Same with the Blackspire 24 tooth inner. Haven't had the same problem with the XT 22 and 32 original rings, which I've now gone back to. Probably the Blackspires would work fine with an 8 spd set up, though they are supposed to work with 9 spd too.

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    I liked the idea of the BG Lite so much I went and fabricated one this evening... my Trek's days as my daily commuter are pretty much done since I recently picked up a couple of vintage Raleigh road bikes that were made to devour pavement. The Super Grand Prix is my ideal commuter / tourer while the Criterium I picked up yesterday should be a good base for a decent singe or dual speed.

    The Criterium donated some of it's Shimano 600 series components to the SGP tonight and I started the strip down process on the Critter so I can repaint her in copper / orange..

    Anyways... bash guards...

    I ground down a rather stiff 42 tooth Shimano chainring much like Endo Rando diid and it should serve me well for the XC and singletrack we like to ride... it turned out great and took all of 30 minutes to fabricate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bling
    I finally chose the Gamut
    sorry to bring back an old thread, but how much did that gamut cost ?
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    It costs 45 bucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bling
    It costs 45 bucks.
    is that just for the bash ring? does that include shipping ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by b12yan88
    is that just for the bash ring? does that include shipping ?
    That is just the bashring. Shipping was to France so i didn't bother mentioning it.
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