I'm an awful Turner owner
I have owned two Turner bikes and bought both used. I have never bought a new Turner. I always find such good deals that it is hard to buy new. I am considering buying a Burner once they are released.
Do you buy new or used?
I bought my first Burner new, my RFX iI was used and my current Sultan I bought new. I like it when my frames tell the story I wrote with them, as cheesey as that sounds.
I purchased an 08 Sultan and 12 Sultan both new. I say get the Burner new :thumbsup:
Of the 5 (soon to be 6, hurry up UPS!) Turners my wife and I have owned/do own, 4 were bought new and 2 used. There is only going to be one left in the stable this year :(
In chronological order:
02 XCE - New
04 Burner - New (Supergo Blowout!)
06 RFX - Used
08 Highline - New
05 Spot - Used
12 Spot - New
Both were new but on sale. The Five Spot was bought in Hood River and the Highline came from Chad at Red Barn.
1st 5spot secondhand,1 flux not used but secondhand,1 burner,1 flux & 3 spots brandnew!
05 Pack - 2nd hand
08 Spot - new
05 Flux - 2nd hand
09 Flux - new
07 Nitrous - 2nd hand
2nd 05 Pack - 2nd hand.
Next one will hopefully be new and with bigger wheels than the others :-)
I just bought my first Turner a month ago (who-hoo) and also felt bad for buying used, but my logic is this: if I support the used market, then the guys who do buy new are more likely to buy Turner again since they are easy to sell after a couple years.
Makes the guilty feeling go away and that's what REALLY matters :)
I'm always afraid that a used one will have been ridden by somebody like me!
Since 2002, I've owned 3 RFX, 3 5 Spot, 2 Six Pack and one XCE. All used and all 2008 or earlier. Never been disappointeed with the purchase of any of the used frames. All previous Turner owners were great to deal with. Yeah, I know, that's a lot of frames in 10 years. Building up a new to me used frame has become an almost annual ritual. The current 08 RFX is at the powdercoater getting a Granny Smith green PC.
Strangely, I have not been lusting for a DW Spot. Although the 2012 looks appealing and I think would ride similarly to the 08 RFX.
I've got 2
First one bought new, dent the down tube later sold to a friend,
After less than a year, he sold it back to me...SWEET;)
After almost 7 YEARS, no RFX...got another new Spot,
Ridden it hard with my buddies on a downhill bike,
I should be on on DHR instead of a Spot, but can you blame me for liking to pedal up:confused:
I think I am awful Turner owner for poking DT *ss too much in past:D
my 5 spot was the first frame i've ever bought new from any brand, albeit heavily discounted and from an online dealer.
2004 Spot - 2 hand
2006 RFX L - 2 hand size adjusted to 2006 RFX M - 2 hand
Then I promised to be good and:
2009 Spot - new warranty replaced to 2010 Spot - new
2011 Sultan - new
Since we're not living a perfect world it's good to be covered by nearly perfect Turner CS. I say - get new.
You guys keep buying 2nds;)
Now I understand why DT keep cutting down his lineup, :D:D:D
Well, not many Turners on the trails here in Denmark. So all three Turners I've owned were brand new.
2004 Burner - new
2010 Spot - new
2010 Flux - new
Sucker for new bikes.
Now that I think about it all new components each time too.
2004 Burner, new on blowout at Supergo, back in the day. That's what got me on the Turner train.
2005 Spot, new.
2005 RFX, new.
That was it for new bikes, save for a new Covert which was a mis-fire.
2002 RFX, used.
2005 RFX, used.
2005 DHR, used.
2008 Sultan, used.
2008 DHR, used.
2008 Spot, used.
2008 Highline, used.
2004 Burner, used.
On a used Mojo HD now. Used bikes and used cars it is these days.
How do you rate the Mojo HD,what set up?
Originally Posted by MK_
The HD wasn't instant love. Mine is pre-tire clearance update so that was a bummer, the front derailleur setup is a real bummer and lack of ISCG tabs is a real bummer number three.
I came into the HD from an IH 6 Point which I had setup for 7in of travel in the rear with a PUSH tuned Vivid coil. That bike was amazing but I have a kid and wanted a lighter alternative to make up for my loss in fitness. The HD isn't as compliant in the rear on the downhills as I was used to; I've tried it with a stock POS Fox Kashima RP whatever, Monarch, Monarch Plus, CCDBa, X-Fusion H3LT and now Vector Air. CCDBa was a fiasco, the H3 LT made that rear end sing but it isn't an opera performance I'm used to from the 6 Point.
On the uphills, it has no equal for this travel category bike. It's really snappy, with zero squatting. Low BB doesn't translate to rock strikes. It is also a great tech climber.
The handing on the downs is superb. Very neutral and you feel very inside the bike so you can really throw it around. As I mentioned before, it isn't the plushest thing on this planet but it descends exceptionally well, overall. It is not a hucking machine, neither. Not like the 6 Point, at least. I remember the RFX/6Pack take big hits better as well.
Overall, I'm really happy with it now but it has room for refinement.
Originally Posted by Jaybo
Buying used does not make one a bad Turner owner. I have bought 5 new Turners, at times needing to sell one to get another. I am glad there is a pre-owned (car euphemism) bike market and that Turners have such a good rep. I intend to repeat this process as soon as new 650/29r xc frames arrive. Bottom line: Its good to ride one either way you purchase it.
Bought my first Turner, an HL 2005 5 Spot, used. Loved it. I rode it until it started to show its age then traded it in for a new 2011 Spot. Love that even more!
No bad dogs, no bad Turner owners?
09 Sultan ( 1st Turner I've owned ) - I think I've ridden this bike more than any bike I've ever owned....it's been through a lot ( Side spills , Endos , and one miscalculated jump that went very badly leaving me with a mild concussion ) and it just keeps ticking ! It shows no signs of weakness ...leaving my 2011 Sultan frame ( bought on sale ) still NIB for now ! I'm a bad Turner owner too since I don't pamper this bike whatsoever.....it is always dirty , only the mechanical stuff gets maintained when needed , and it gets bounced around in the back of my truck all riding season to be ridden as much as possible ! :D TIG.
That's the spirit.
Originally Posted by TIGMAN
Yes, you are an awful Turner owner!
Originally Posted by TIGMAN
I have owned 2 Turners... '08 5 Spot (sold) and currently riding a '10 5 Spot. Both bought new. Big question is what's next?
2 x new Turners.
'01 RFX & '08 Highline
RFX gets ridden tons, Highline not so much. Would have loved to replace the steady ride with another RF... but might settle for a Spot ... Burner is tempting though.
05 6 Pack New
05 5 Spot Used
11 6 Spot New
Still own all three and see no need to to sell any of them.
6 Pack set up with 36 Vanilla CCDB King Mavic 723 wheels 36#
05 5 Spot XTR. Pushed Fox 130 Talas RP3 27#
11 5 Spot XTR Fox Float 150 RP23 28#
I really enjoy my 2010 Turner 5 Spot despite the fact I own a Niner Jet 9 RDO (that gets ridden in the summer and during races). Poor old Niner is neglected by oh so pretty :)
I have my eye on a Burner. I am enjoying the 2.1 k price!
Mine was bought new, in fact hand carry from USA when I had a chance to visit there for 2 weeks. Within short window, Dave could manage a delivery of a 2004.5 HL 5Spot to my hotel room. (Yes it was the last model of Horst Link before Dave moved to TNT).
It went through some mod end up now with 5.7" Push rocker and 160mm fork front. By today standard the bike seems very tall and not as slack.
I am still keeping it till I could get one of another Turner. Has always been expecting the RFX, but I guess the 650b Burner is so attempting now. Will wait for the last iteration after all the feedback from Interbike and such.
Exactly! Dave's warranty policies with handling ALL customers, not just the original owner, is one of the reasons there are so many that ride secondhand Turners. Not to mention the frame is always worth 600 bucks off of a new one in any condition. Tha provides a piece of mind that no other bike company can provide (that I have found).
Originally Posted by etanc
08 5 spot (Interbike demo)
06 RFX used. (frame hanging for eventual trade in)
10 5 spot (used but shipped from Turner)
11 5 spot new (sold the 08 frame to fund)
DW spots are super fun to ride.
08 RFX (Interbike demo)
08 Highline (bought used as frame and lovingly built up and ridden regularly)
11 Spot (funded by sale of RFX)
Still trying to decide if I "need" a DHR....
'08 RFX bought new.
I would like to add a used Six Pack, 2006 RFX or Spot as my back up. Size large!
Hope to make that happen by picking up a frameset as finances allow. Plan to use existing parts I have on hand.
I see nothing wrong with buying a Turner new or used.
Like your thinking Steadite! These are great bikes and the Turners are iconic so there is strong demand for used.
Originally Posted by steadite
2010 DW Flux new for me.
Oh yes I forgot ......2011 DW Flux in Blue Ano new for my brother. (He rode mine and had to have one himslelf LOL)
Originally Posted by whodaphuck
Let me "help". Yes, you do.
Here's my purchasing history. I've tried to do my part to keep the resale market going.
2006 HL Spot
2009 Sultan (warranty replacement with 2011 front triangle)
2010 5 Spot for my fiancée
I've broken almost every bike I've every owned. More than 25 frames. I've learned the hard way, that I need a warranty. I buy new.
Originally Posted by Jaybo
Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
25 frames? Wow. And I thought I was a candidate for product testing with 4 out of 5.
My first Turner is 04 HL Spot and I dont think I`ll ever need anything else. Fork is DT Swiss as the most of the parts are new.
I agree with the others, that buying it new or used, it shouldn't matter. As long as you ride it, love it and appreciate it.
I'm still on an '05 HL Spot that I bought new and so far I see no reason to replace it. Over the past four years I think I've demo'd about 20 bikes. Everything from Trek and Giant to Santa Cruz, Niner and Pivot, both 26ers and 29ers. I can't say that any of them ride better than my old Horst Link. Which is good, because every time I get that upgrade feeling I just buy new parts for my current ride. Right now I'm thinking about sending it in to have them repaint it, but I feel like that may be like putting perfume on a pig.
Originally Posted by BikerTex
The only thing I have found that I like better than the HL 5Spot it the DW-link Flux but I would agree that after many demos, there are few new bike I would trade my older Turner for.
02 RFX new late in 02, probably one of the last ones left from the last batch, felt like if I waited any longer I'd miss out.
03 Burner new, wifes bike, not a closeout.
04 Spot new, wifes bike, bought in 06, Supergo closeout.
06 Highline new.
07 DHR new, instead of Whistler with HL and Spot, it's now DHR and HL.
08 DHR new, wife, Whistler now DHR x 2.
08 RFX new, needed to fill a hole in my quiver.
Bought someones 5 spot dented front tri and pieced it together for a friend.
Wife bought a xce frame and somehow turned it into a flux for her brother.
She's also bought a spot frame and built it up for a friend and a Highline that got ridden a few times and is now being enjoyed by a local CL buyer.
All that's left in our garage now is my wifes HL 5 spot, upgraded with 5.5 rockers and pushed RP3, my 07 DHR, my 06 Highline now with a 08 front tri, and my 08 RFX. No dw's, no dropper posts, and wheels bigger than 26" only on our road bikes. None of our bikes are even close to wearing out, and they are all dialed in. I feel no need for a new bike.... except if there is one that goes faster downhill.
That's what happens when you're well over 7' tall and run 3' of exposed seatpost.
Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
00' RFX used - Upgraded the rear with wider tire clearance HL rear in 2005 and that is still being ridden!
05' 5 spot used - pieced together and was sold.
08 RFX new - bought online at huge discount but love it!!!!
Like the new Burner though..........